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InvisibleChronic7
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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: Sammysong]
    #19216952 - 12/02/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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InvisibledeCypher
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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: teknix]
    #19216958 - 12/02/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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teknix said:
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deCypher said:
So you believe the ego is a physical thing located within the body?




No.

I believe ego is entangled within the emotional center, through thoughts or the brain.




You just said the ego resides "there"... you weren't referring to the body?

What do you mean by the emotional center?  Is that a physical location?


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Invisibleteknix
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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: deCypher]
    #19216963 - 12/02/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't not mean literally and physically, more figuratively.

Emotions are felt in the ganglia, which is a physical location, but I don't know how I could ever prove that.

If ego is controlling your emotions, then what you feel is determined by the ego.

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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: teknix]
    #19217082 - 12/02/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The 'self' and 'ego' are interpretive placeholders for awareness.

I'm not suggesting there is 'no ego or self', just that when a person points at their self, they're pointing at the awareness which they may or may not believe is their self/ego.


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Invisibleteknix
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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: Rahz]
    #19217100 - 12/02/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Do You think awareness ceases to exist without ego? I think you probably mean self-awareness or conscious awareness?

The second sentence is pretty confusing.


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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: teknix]
    #19217120 - 12/02/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the self is usually on a usb stick in my pocket


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Invisibleteknix
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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19217158 - 12/02/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:

RGV doesn't point, he pulls out a USB!


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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: teknix]
    #19217192 - 12/02/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm still laughing, that is funny as hell!

Need to find a place to plug myself in!

:intardnet:

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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: teknix]
    #19217229 - 12/02/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't point there. :shrug:




Like when you say I, where does it feel like it is?

Or where do you feel emotions ?





Head


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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: Icelander]
    #19217254 - 12/02/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i keep a few things in my pocket


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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: teknix]
    #19217258 - 12/02/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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teknix said:
Do You think awareness ceases to exist without ego? I think you probably mean self-awareness or conscious awareness?

The second sentence is pretty confusing.




In theory ego and awareness are two separate functions so yes, awareness would exist in absence of ego. Also I should have said "when a person points at their BODY, they're pointing at the awareness which they may or may not believe is their self/ego."

To be clear on ego, it's a function with variable content. No content, no perception of ego. Even with content ego is still simply a function which could be mistaken for the content. It would be like having a talking head on your computer screen. A person might assume the head was the computer when actually the head is a temporary product of the wires and circuits.

Also ego, self, same function variable content. I think people generally speak towards ego when there is the perception of less/no awareness. Neither actually exist as far as I can tell but it's usually not helpful to bring that up in opposition to an idea.


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Re: Where is the Self? [Re: Icelander]
    #19217259 - 12/02/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think you are an exception.


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