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bmk83
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Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D
#19215578 - 12/02/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Habitat: The mushrooms were gorwing in cow paddies around tall grass next to a river on the Central North Coast of NSW Australia.
Gills: The gills of most of the mushrooms are brown, however the larger mushrooms which turned blue when picked are more of a brownish white, which is confusing?
Stem: The mushrooms with the long thin stems appear to be liberty caps, but im not 100%sure
Cap: The caps range from small to medium sized, are generally copper to brown, are smooth, some were a really dark brown and have very dark brown stems, all appear conical or spherical in shaper.
Spore print color: the smaller mushrooms leave brown to black prints. The larger ones have not left spores yet. Very important!
Bruising: Two of the mushrooms bruised blue but the others have not bruised.
I have picked Blue Meanies from the same paddock before however this time there seem to be a lot of the smaller mushrooms with the long thin stems, liberty caps?






 

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TimmiT


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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: bmk83]
#19215686 - 12/02/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The ones that aren't blueing are inactive Panaeolus.
There are some Psilocybe cubensis in there (the ones with the rings on the stems). You also have some Panaeolus cyanescens (the smaller ones that are bruising blue).
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bmk83
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: TimmiT]
#19215779 - 12/02/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks for your reply! 
only the two larger ones have turned noticeably blue, but have a sort of greyish/brown gill, would they be safe to consume given the gills are not completely brown or black? the spores seem to be coming out black..
the smaller ones have not turned blue but are all a dark coppery brown, does this mean they are not active?
your advice is really appreciated!
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TimmiT


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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: bmk83]
#19215808 - 12/02/13 03:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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 The one at the bottom left that's bruising blue appears to be Panaeolus cyanescens.
 The mushrooms next to the kettle are Psilocybe cubensis.
The ones that aren't blueing are not active.
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bmk83
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: TimmiT]
#19215812 - 12/02/13 03:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cheers, my thanks
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Into The Woods
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: bmk83]
#19215824 - 12/02/13 03:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll be visiting the North Coast soon, so this is fun to know about.
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bmk83
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: Into The Woods]
#19215829 - 12/02/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha, nice one, I havent had much luck for a while but the weather seems to be right around this time of year and there has been plenty of rain lately, happy hunting!
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Into The Woods
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: bmk83]
#19216048 - 12/02/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well of course, it's what we hunters call shroom season.
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thiotimoline
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: Into The Woods]
#19217873 - 12/02/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Liberty caps are a temperate species and need cold winters. You will never find them growing in the same location as Panaeolus cyanescens, which likes a subtropical climate.
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shroomman4201
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: thiotimoline]
#19218211 - 12/02/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If the spore print for what you think are meanies is jet black then its meanies.
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bmk83
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: shroomman4201]
#19219263 - 12/02/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ah cool, thanks for your feedback, the spore print for what I think are the meanies has come out more like a dark purple.. ?
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TimmiT


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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: bmk83]
#19219400 - 12/02/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You should use scientific names because I don't know what you're talking about when you say 'blue meanie'. Common names don't work very well with active mushrooms because they aren't used consistently. Everyone uses the same names to mean different species.
Panaeolus species have a black spore print. Psilocybe species have a purple-brown print.
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bmk83
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: TimmiT]
#19220155 - 12/02/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i thought Blue Meanie was common enough for psilocybe cubensis, unfortunately I dont actually know scientific names outside of this, esp when I have little knowledge of what Im trying to identify, but I'll keep your comment in mind next time I post!
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thiotimoline
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Re: Identification? NSW AUSTRALIA pleeeease help! :D [Re: bmk83]
#19220244 - 12/03/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Blue Meanie" is occasionally used for Psilocybe cubensis (I think there's a "strain" marketed under that name) but far more often (at least on this forum) for Panaeolus cyanescens. Both are subtropical species that like the same sort of habitat, but they're not closely related.
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