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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#19218057 - 12/02/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's untrue.
It is the most physically damaging drug, though.
Not true. Alcohol is more physically damaging.
You're wrong, dude. Please understand what I am saying before you jump to conclusions and keep pushing this false fact. I'm not saying meth causes more harm than alcohol. I'm saying meth is more PHYSICALLY DAMAGING than alcohol. PHYSICALLY, to your PHYSICAL body. Look at some photos dude, alcoholics of 30-40 years vs a meth head of 10 years, the meth head always looks way way worse. Someone back me up.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: GreySatyr]
#19218061 - 12/02/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I take Adderall on a daily basis, but have tried meth on two occasions, both accidental.
I bought two "ecstasy" pills before I found Pill Reports and looking them up at a later date proved that they were both 100% methamphetamine.
Did I enjoy the experience? Sure, I didn't get the experience I wanted, but it was decent enough.
Would I go out of my way to find meth? No.
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You're wrong, dude. Please understand what I am saying before you jump to conclusions and keep pushing this false fact. I'm not saying meth causes more harm than alcohol. I'm saying meth is more PHYSICALLY DAMAGING than alcohol. PHYSICALLY, to your PHYSICAL body. Look at some photos dude, alcoholics of 30-40 years vs a meth head of 10 years, the meth head always looks way way worse. Someone back me up.
I don't have much knowledge on the physical effects of meth, but it seems many times it is the overall lifestyle that makes meth/crack/heroin addicts waste away more than the drug.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19218214 - 12/02/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love meth, it's ridiculously euphoric, just so much fun and great for socialising and if used sensibly there doesn't seem to be any downside. When I take it I take one dose either eaten or snorted, sometimes I might take a booster if the effects are much weaker than expected but this will be within an hour from the initial dose and once I'm where I want to be no more is taken.
I dose small, 10-20mg is all I need, the meth is extremely pure. This gives me great euphoria, makes me really social with a nice boost of confidence and this lasts for hours. Even as it wears off I never experience a crash, it just slowly becomes less intense but I get no bad feelings.
As some posters mentioned at these lower doses if you do nothing you might not even feel it's working but as soon as you do anything at all then the euphoria kicks in.
I always thought meth would be very moreish but I haven't found this to be the case at all. I never have any problem resisting the temptation to dose again as it wears off, I don't even get any such temptations. I expected it to be really moreish like mephedrone but it is not at all.
It's probably my lifestyle that makes meth this way for me, I can see how people would stay up for a week on it if they had nothing else to do. I'm sure it would be great fun at the time but I just don't have the time for meth binges with work responsibilities and such. Also given that I can occasionally take a low dose, have an amazing night and feel fine the next day why would I go and ruin that on myself by abusing it and suffering horrible hangovers, crashes and side effects.
Meth has an awful reputation and people are so quick to judge it but if used sensibly it really can be something special and amazing.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: Spiderbaby]
#19218241 - 12/02/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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DatIslandLife said: Meth is very physically damaging, the most physically damaging drug in fact. Your hair and teeth and skin start to fall off and shit. Don't do it.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: MisterSandman]
#19218245 - 12/02/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
#19218254 - 12/02/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's untrue.
It is the most physically damaging drug, though.
Not true. Alcohol is more physically damaging.
You're wrong, dude. Please understand what I am saying before you jump to conclusions and keep pushing this false fact. I'm not saying meth causes more harm than alcohol. I'm saying meth is more PHYSICALLY DAMAGING than alcohol. PHYSICALLY, to your PHYSICAL body. Look at some photos dude, alcoholics of 30-40 years vs a meth head of 10 years, the meth head always looks way way worse. Someone back me up.
Sorry dude you are wrong I have a friend who uses meth "occasionally" and let me tell you, if you saw this guy on the street you'd think he was some straight laced choir boy.
I imagine meth addicts look so bad because they become so addicted that they put hygiene and grooming on the back burner. I'm no expert but I'm almost certain there is nothing in meth that makes your teeth fall out, it's just lack of brushing because you are too busy smoking meth.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
#19218261 - 12/02/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's untrue.
It is the most physically damaging drug, though.
Not true. Alcohol is more physically damaging.
You're wrong, dude. Please understand what I am saying before you jump to conclusions and keep pushing this false fact. I'm not saying meth causes more harm than alcohol. I'm saying meth is more PHYSICALLY DAMAGING than alcohol. PHYSICALLY, to your PHYSICAL body. Look at some photos dude, alcoholics of 30-40 years vs a meth head of 10 years, the meth head always looks way way worse. Someone back me up.
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That's untrue.
It is the most physically damaging drug, though.
Not true. Alcohol is more physically damaging.
You're wrong, dude. Please understand what I am saying before you jump to conclusions and keep pushing this false fact. I'm not saying meth causes more harm than alcohol. I'm saying meth is more PHYSICALLY DAMAGING than alcohol. PHYSICALLY, to your PHYSICAL body. Look at some photos dude, alcoholics of 30-40 years vs a meth head of 10 years, the meth head always looks way way worse. Someone back me up.
no, you are just thinking about the propaganda on meth. it seems you haven't actually put any research into the matter... the effects of alcohol binging is just not broadcasted through the media, most people can't even stay up drinking for days on end, but the people who do are in far worse condition than people on a meth binge for the same length. i have personally seen at least twice as many people walking the street in worse condition from binge drinking for days than from tweeking for weeks.
also i was not able to find people as fucked up with a quick google search as i am if i just walk down main street. binge drinking is just not a concern for most people
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
#19218386 - 12/02/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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DatIslandLife said: Meth is very physically damaging, the most physically damaging drug in fact. Your hair and teeth and skin start to fall off and shit. Don't do it.
Isn't this a result of people simply not taking care of themselves?...lacking hygiene & not brushing their teeth, not staying hydrated and not eating properly so their bodies lack nutrition? Rather than a direct effect of the meth itself?
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tymoteusz3 said: I am saying used responsibly it's fine.
Agreed...And I say the same with all drugs. If the person has a good head on their shoulders they should know what it is they're getting into, know how to keep it in moderation, etc. It's people that lack self control, or lack education on the drug, that dig themselves into addiction and certain situations, not the drug itself.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: openmind]
#19218401 - 12/02/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Isn't this a result of people simply not taking care of themselves?...lacking hygiene & not brushing their teeth, not staying hydrated and not eating properly so their bodies lack nutrition? Rather than a direct effect of the meth itself?
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: openmind]
#19218425 - 12/02/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Moonshoe said: I am very interested in meth. I curious. Who here has done it? How often have you done it? How much did you like it? What problems, consequences or harms, if any, did you notice? What benefits, advantages or positive aspects, if any, were there? Do you still do it? Did you find it addictive? Are you addicted? Any and all thoughts about meth are welcomed and appreciated!
I tried it for the first time recently a couple months ago. I wasn't seeking it out, I never planned to try it but never planned to avoid it if I had the opportunity to try it. Since then I've done it like 3 or 4 times.
The stuff makes me come out of my "head". My thoughts flow into language with ease, I can actually articulate my thoughts into words with out having to pause while talking. I become social, I seek more interaction with people, I actually want to talk about things. My voice/speech has more prosody and inflection rather than being flat and borderline monotone. I become more expressive. Creativity flows out onto/into what ever medium I'm using. And pretty much all my executive functions start to function as they should .
Being on the autism spectrum, getting to experience these things is almost like magic for me. Most of my days I'm practically mute unless spoken to or unless it's a topic I'm reaaally into. My thoughts are mostly visual/abstract, combined with other sensory processing issues makes me pause a lot while talking, I'll just say that it takes a lot of effort for me to get my thoughts into verbal language and speak it out loud....meth helps a lot in that area, it's amazing...It just really helps get me out of my head in general. It helps me with organization, everything from literally organizing physical things, to organizing my thoughts into a more verbal-language structure.
I also feel like I'm perpetually tired, I'm just a really low energy person, everything takes a great deal of effort/energy for me to do (even talking), meth helps a lot in that area.
To me, meth is very similar to adderall. And it reminds me of MDMA, but it is more clear headed & functional (and it doesn't have that super empathogenic lovey dovey thing going on....more dopamine action, less serotonin). I practically feel like I'm sober while on it. It makes my mind clear & functional like it should be. I feel calm and at ease while being able to process everything with out effort. It makes things feel and happen "naturally" & subconsciously, rather than having to consciously analyze, think about, and then execute (anyone on the autism spectrum should understand what I mean by that) .
Meth is a tool for my self (like all drugs), obviously something more practical and less taxing would be adderall. But amphetamines in general are not something I'd like to use regularly, only when needed.
Some of the things I don't like about meth....how long it lasts, depending on the dose and when it's taken, getting to sleep can indeed be a problem . And the major suppression of appetite, I like food, I don't like how meth makes even the tastiest of food taste like cardboard (I still make my self eat though). And the stigma is has....those are the only things that come to mind.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: SurReality]
#19218429 - 12/02/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude, it's not just propaganda. I've seen it happen to many people including loved ones.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19218447 - 12/02/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Dude, it's not just propaganda. I've seen it happen to many people including loved ones.
so how many people have you seen binge on alcohol for a week without sleeping or longer?
my point is that you don't know enough about both subjects to make an accurate comparison, yet you are the one who says its less damaging than alcohol when binging.
also it appears that the only people you know who have done meth, were binging and the only reason you found out they even did meth was because they failed at it. **this is just an assumption from what you have said in the quote, so correct me if i'm wrong.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: SurReality]
#19218461 - 12/02/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never said that. And I actually know quite a bit about both substances. I'm almost 40 years old and have known many meth heads and alcoholics over the years.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19218470 - 12/02/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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a methhead/user and an alcoholic don't have to be bingers.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19218504 - 12/02/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meth feels REALLY good for the first few hours. Much better than coke imo. My preferred ROA is either smoking it or railing lines. Never banged it and don't intend to. Smoking is more addictive imo, one fat line will keep you good for awhile but there is something about the pipe that makes you want to keep smoking and smoking and smoking. The problem with the high is the euphoria fades but the mental and physical stimulation last much longer (too long if you ask me). Its great for getting into super in depth conversations with friends in a similar fashion to alcohol, without the impairment. Not mention sex/masturbation is AMAZING (assuming you dont get meth dick.) Come downs are fucking rough, even whilst practicing harm reduction (eating, personal hygeine, hydration etc.) Alcohol or benzos are a must. Afterwords I feel so brain dead I have trouble speaking and my entire body hurts.
I see meths potential for making one extremely productive but I prefer nootropics like aniracetam. Meth is too speedy and leaves me feeling totally brain dead, not to mention the negative health effects, where nootropics leave me clear headed and my body unharmed.
Ive been doing meth for four to five years. The first couple of years I would touch it maybe once or twice every 6 months. Unfortunately a lot of my friends have fallen pretty deep into meth addiction and I found myself doing it more often than I personally would like to. I have a hard time saying no to free drugs, especially when Im drunk, which I usually was if I was down to get high. My use picked up, usually I would binge for a couple days and not touch it again for a month or two.
This past year I have done more meth than the past four combined. I was homeless earlier this year (for reasons unrelated to my meth use) and I started binging more and more frequently. Alcohol is my main problem and when I was out on the streets I was drinking every waking moment. Meth makes this much more possible. If it wasnt for being spun I could have gotten my drunk ass in all sorts of trouble. Im a happy drunk, but careless and too trusting leaving me an easy target for thieves and those who would do me harm. Meth kept me on my toes and helped me watch my own back, but now half year later Im catching myself having paranoid delusions and I dont want to continue down that path. I've seen too many people literally lose their mind from the combination of meth, sleep deprivation and extreme paranoia. Paranoid delusions become more and more outlandish and eventually amphetamine psychosis sets in. Not pretty. I've cut back my use compared to earlier this year but am gradually picking it up again.
Now most of my friends have moved on to the needle. One friend who I considered my brother completely lost his mind and it breaks my fucking heart, I've done everything I can to help but he isnt coming back (dude believes he can shape shift, remembers things that never happened and has even eaten his own feces.) Now he is a walking skeleton. I wont be suprised if he doesnt make it another year. I feed him when I see him, and speak to him like a human being opposed to treating him like trash which it seems most people seem to do, but he isnt coming back without serious psychiatric help, which he refuses.
Most of my other tweaker friends are becoming self centered pieces of shit. Its sad to watch good friends from high school (im 23 btw) ruin their life. Shits definitely gotten real.
Am I addicted to meth specifically? No, its really is more of a supplement to my drinking. My main problems/daily drugs are alcohol and/or benzos, with meth or heroin binges thrown in every week or two. I am seeking help (for the first time btw!) and will soon be in either in inpatient or an intensive outpatient program within the next couple weeks. I am remaning positive, It's sad that I am going to lose almost all my friends but I'm not gonna let myself crash and burn with them. I feel so much more hopeful for the future after finally admitting to myself I need help, and will soon get it.
...that being said I have been up all night tweaking and am still pretty high as you might be able to tell by the length of this post. I have been on a binge for over a week now, up for a few days, crash for one or two, repeat. I hadn't eaten in two days by the time thanksgiving rolled around. It was a friends birthday yesterday so there was plenty of crank to be consumed. If it wasn't for the few klonopin I took earlier I would be pulling my hair out trying to scrounge up enough change for some booze. I plan on spending the next few days sleeping, getting stoned, and stuffing my face, with the occasional benzo thrown in for when things get hairy.
Anyways.... If you managed to read my tweaked out ramblings then for you.
TL:DR Is meth trying? Depends on the person, its incredibly euphoric, but neurotoxic and hard on your body. If you have self control, try it a few times and enjoy yourself, but realize your playing with fire.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: SurReality]
#19218512 - 12/02/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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As I understand it meth is one of the easiest drugs to get addicted to and you can get addicted to it very quickly.
One thing that makes meth really in appealing is the fact that users feel reduced pleasure in their daily lives and lose the ability to feel happiness without meth, and this can be permanent.
It overloads and burns out dopamine receptors, killing them.
I love my dopamine receptors.
I'm not sure if any other drugs have this effect if killing dopamine receptors.
One surprising thing is meth is apparently fairly hard to OD on .
I think cocaine is actually more likely to kill you outright then meth, which is surprising .
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: Moonshoe]
#19218525 - 12/02/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mdma does i am pretty sure
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: thelanzii]
#19218687 - 12/02/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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meth makes me horny and it turns me into a stallion when it comes to sex
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: AD420]
#19218700 - 12/02/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meth shoulld be legal. that is all.
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Re: Have you done meth? What are your thoughts on it? [Re: deladude]
#19218779 - 12/02/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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First of all, the different ROA's of meth impact the high and make it totally different drugs. COMPLETELY. We are no longer talking about the same drug when we compare IV to any other ROA.
Meth is by far the most pleasurable experience a human being can have.
First time I did it I IV'd half a point. I learnt very quickly that the rush from meth is pretty much king of any drug high. I went from half a point, to the next set of shots doing 1.5 points. I still did not get the soul crushing rush.
If I want a good rush, and I have little tolerance right now (haven't tweaked in a month), a quarter gram will do it.
Shooting high dosages of meth is like having all your anxieties, worries, fears melted away. After the plunger is pressed down you cough and it literally takes your breath away. A fire burns in your chest and you start breathing weird, sort of like when you just realize you are tripping.
IV meth feels absolutely identical to the peak of an MDMA high combined with the feeling you feel in your dick during an orgasm, but multiplied by a thousand from head to toe. That's the best I can describe it. That warm, throbbing, deep sensation is enough to get me off. I grunt, growl, scream, my arms and legs move uncontrollably on my bed. I no longer control my body, but meth takes complete control and literally fucks my soul to the point I literally start jizzing buckets from just the thought of pussy. Taking that thick shot all at once, seeing it go in me, combined with this feeling, fucking rights.
I've shot up opiates and they are really good but this does not compare to meth.
IV meth is more like an opiate and mdma, not at all like a stimulant during the rush. Colours go bright, everything echoes, eyes blink uncontrollably, vibrate like on molly. My eyes go cross eyed and my vision fuzzes the fuck out. It's single handedly the most intense experience ever and is a very sexual for me. Makes me feel like an animal.
It feels like MDMA for about five or six hours, but much more pleasurable. I swear this drug turns into molly when you inject it and it feels that way through a good portion of the high.
Did I mention the bell ringer? My god I never understood why hearing a bell ringer would be so good and why addicts raved about it. Damn is it great.
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