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lost hope in psychedelics
    #19215224 - 12/01/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There is a side in me that wants leave everything behind, and simply disappear. For years now I have been trying to suppress my urge to run off to the jungle and never return. I am no longer interested in the drama that is 21st century life. Tired of the societal standards and norms that destroy human integrity and creativity. Sick of the bullshit icons and ideologies that have been adopted and adorned. For years I have told myself that people would come around. That they would one day wake up, and have that same realization.

The hope I had came from psychedelics. They made me think that we could change the world. That we could make it infinitely better for ourselves and all life. But we won't because we are too content in our lives. Here is where my hope fades... People choose comfort over freedom, and I no longer will. After I went to South America I told myself when I go back its for good. It has been a viable option 3 times over the last few years. The last one, about a year ago now, was the closest I got to making that leap. I can hear the jungle calling to me again, and I can no longer resist her song. The next chance I get I'm gone...

But now I am unsure if my hope has been lost in psychedelics, or humanity, or both. I do, however, have hope in myself. Hope that I can change and be the person that I want to be. Because I have become accustomed to the American way of life, if you will, as well. It has become very stale and constricting for me mentally.

If you take anything from this at all, let it be inspiration for something you have always wanted to do.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: maddad]
    #19215238 - 12/01/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Psychedelics are really only a means of better understanding oneself.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19215249 - 12/01/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Psychedelics are really only a means of better understanding oneself.




And just how the hell do you figure that much?


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: XUL]
    #19215254 - 12/01/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I suppose that is just my perspective based on OP's post and direction he was going with it. Perhaps the answer he needs to hear. Or maybe it's total BS.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: maddad]
    #19215259 - 12/01/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

psychedelics are powerful and amazing tools but if you have totally extreme belief about anything and what It can do for you its bound to disappoint, in other words they are powerful and valuable but not an instant cure for everything or a miracle solution.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19215301 - 12/01/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I suppose that is just my perspective based on OP's post and direction he was going with it. Perhaps the answer he needs to hear. Or maybe it's total BS.




I agree with your first statement as well. I guess maybe I was relating my lost hope in humanity to psychedelics. Or vice versa. Either way, it was more about giving up the thought that the world would ever change, and to focus on changing myself, and living how I wish to.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: maddad]
    #19215313 - 12/01/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you change, the world changes. If you can change, other people can change. If other people can change, the world can change.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19215320 - 12/01/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I suppose that is just my perspective based on OP's post and direction he was going with it. Perhaps the answer he needs to hear. Or maybe it's total BS.





I can't agree with you more.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19215332 - 12/01/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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psychedelics are powerful and amazing tools but if you have totally extreme belief about anything and what It can do for you its bound to disappoint, in other words they are powerful and valuable but not an instant cure for everything or a miracle solution.




I think people are misunderstanding the point I was trying to get across...

The hope that I got from psychedelics had nothing to do with the drugs being the means of change. They simply gave me hope that we could or would. But now that is gone.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19215348 - 12/01/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Psychedelics are really only a means of better understanding oneself.




how do you not come to this conclusion?

op run into the jungle and become tarzan for a month! get it out of your system.



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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: maddad]
    #19215356 - 12/01/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But if you have ever experienced a positive change from psychedelics, so have others. And if others have changed society as a whole has changed. Obviously not everyone and not society as a whole will transform instantly because of psychedelics, but thousands of people have experienced positive change for example from ayahuasca ceremonies, which does have an effect on society as a whole. But no psychedelics are not going to instantly transform society as whole. But every day people's lives are changing from psychedelics.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: XUL]
    #19215395 - 12/02/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I suppose that is just my perspective based on OP's post and direction he was going with it. Perhaps the answer he needs to hear. Or maybe it's total BS.





I can't agree with you more.




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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19215410 - 12/02/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Psychs never show me what I want to see, its usually quite the opposite. I don't like having to accept my shortcomings and ego death scares me. After its all over though, I do enjoy the positive outlook I have and motivation. It ain't always pretty but usually it's the truth


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19215462 - 12/02/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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But if you have ever experienced a positive change from psychedelics, so have others. And if others have changed society as a whole has changed. Obviously not everyone and not society as a whole will transform instantly because of psychedelics, but thousands of people have experienced positive change for example from ayahuasca ceremonies, which does have an effect on society as a whole. But no psychedelics are not going to instantly transform society as whole. But every day people's lives are changing from psychedelics.




I don't think you are getting man, but it doesn't seem like anyone else does either.

I have been through all of these realizations a thousand times. It is something that is so blatantly obvious to me but no one around me sees it the way I do.

The last line of my original post says if you take anything from this let it be inspiration for what you want to do. I'm not saying that I lost hope in psychedelics so I'm running to the jungle. Living in the jungle has been something that  I have wanted to do for more than half of my life. I feel like I'm having communication problems right now... But I feel I said everything as straight forward as I could.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: maddad]
    #19215467 - 12/02/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Living in the jungle is tough stuff, its a very difficult environment, you will need lots of vaccinations, antibiotics, malaria pills, all kinds of germs and parasites and biting bugs to worry about. At least the climate is ideal for human survival and food sources are relatively abundant but damn all the bugs and germs and diseases and parasites are going to take an enormous amount of skill and supplies to deal with. I just hope you know what you are getting in to if you actually try to live in the jungle. I have been in the jungle a few times its AMAZING but not exactly somewhere you can just chill and survive without intense training and gear.


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19215739 - 12/02/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid: the jungle a rough neighborhood yo


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Re: lost hope in psychedelics [Re: Magicman69]
    #19215747 - 12/02/13 02:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So what your saying is psychedelics gave u hope in the world and since the world is shit it's the psychs fault


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