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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19213025 - 12/01/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And poisoning them in the process.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19213072 - 12/01/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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And poisoning them in the process.



can you provide a source where it says gmo's are poisonous?


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19213196 - 12/01/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know they're bad, If you want to eat them go right ahead. You should figure it out for yourself not have someone tell you especially if you have small children.

Besides I've already post a lot of info.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19213232 - 12/01/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i've done the research and have yet to find a valid study citing dangers of ingesting GMO. I think your dodging the question because you can't back up your claims


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19213334 - 12/01/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And I say again, if that's where you want to be go for it.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: sweeper54] * 3
    #19213368 - 12/01/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yup you can't support your claim because theres no evidence to support it.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: psyconaught]
    #19213469 - 12/01/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If that's what works for you eat it.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19213516 - 12/01/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_haemophilia_blood_products

Here is an example of a buisness doing something evil.
Bayer sold blood with aids in it to foreign countries after discontinuing those products in the US. (And ended up having to pay nearly 1 billion in settlements)

Other examples, dow chemical produced Napalm to burn people alive.

Go back to your history books and look at the murders committed by companies against strikers.
Ludlow massacre etc.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

You pretty much have to be completly ignorant of history to not realize corporations have done lots of bad things to workers, the enivornment, and consumers.  You could list thousands of companies and events worldwide.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: sweeper54]
    #19213592 - 12/01/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If that's what works for you eat it.



this has nothing to do with me and what i consume. I don't consume many goo's at all because i tend to eat mostly organic anyway. But thats besides the point completely. I'm asking you to support a claim you made


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: psyconaught] * 1
    #19214007 - 12/01/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

all you need to do to figure out why the government had to put regulation is to look at the abuse big corporation did to its workforce 100 years ago to maximize profit.

History has your answer OP. No regulations = wide open doors for abuse.

Look at China. No human rights law. What's happening? Human rights crime.

Look at the history books before asking a question.

Like every sports in the world, if there's no referee, teams will cheat.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: Patlal]
    #19214028 - 12/01/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:facepalm:China?  It's fucking communist.  They tell all of their citizens what to do and where to do it.  They have nothing to do with free market capitalism.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19214049 - 12/01/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:facepalm:China?  It's fucking communist.  They tell all of their citizens what to do and where to do it.  They have nothing to do with free market capitalism.




Look at America a hundred years ago. Workers lost arms in machine without any consequences to anyone. Strikebreakers were hired to beat workers back to work, no safety, low wages, all profits.

You need a ref to give out penalties. Otherwise there are no consequence to any behavior. Greed makes men act like sociopaths when its a free for all


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: Patlal]
    #19214112 - 12/01/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
:facepalm:China?  It's fucking communist.  They tell all of their citizens what to do and where to do it.  They have nothing to do with free market capitalism.




Look at America a hundred years ago. Workers lost arms in machine without any consequences to anyone. Strikebreakers were hired to beat workers back to work, no safety, low wages, all profits.




I agree that there were abuses back then.  I do not know why the strike breakers were not prosecuted for assault.  I also don't know why workers didn't sue when they were injured
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You need a ref to give out penalties. Otherwise there are no consequence to any behavior. Greed makes men act like sociopaths when its a free for all




There were always laws against assault and battery and there were always torts.  You can argue that the government was complicit in supporting the exploitation but I do not see a concomitant case for all the endless pile of regulations now.  Do you know who Workmen's Compensation protects?  It isn't the worker, it's the employer.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19215049 - 12/01/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Monsanto also wants royalties all over the world.  Until you prove Monsanto wants to feed the poor, your claim will live forever in bullshit land, just like your bullshit claim that your state healthcare exchange doesn't work.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: Mush4Brains] * 2
    #19216468 - 12/02/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Monsanto also wants royalties all over the world.  Until you prove Monsanto wants to feed the poor, your claim will live forever in bullshit land, just like your bullshit claim that your state healthcare exchange doesn't work.




Their products greatly increase crop yield.  Does that not help feed the poor?  Of course they want to be paid for their research and product.  Why would anybody create them.

NY

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/11/30/obamacare-website-glitches-deadline/3790335/

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As of Tuesday, New York's enrollment numbers showed 76,177 had enrolled in a health plan, up from 48,162 on Nov. 12.




Is that a joke?  I can't get on and the worst thing is is that you have to enter all of your personal information before you can even see the products offered.

I just did it again and this time I could read the captcha.

Quote:

Your session has expired




Next time after getting through the application process and moving on to enrollment

Quote:

The requested URL /protected/enroll/Enrollment was not found on this server.




Also when clicking to go to MyNy

Quote:

The requested URL /bin/MyNy was not found on this server.




Linkee no workee


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19216493 - 12/02/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Logged out.  Tried to get back on

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Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, oft.dl.ais.system@oft.state.ny.us and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.




It's working just great.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19216564 - 12/02/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Again
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Not Found

The requested URL /bin/MyNy was not found on this server.




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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19216576 - 12/02/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Then this
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/selfreg.xhtml @47,110 validator="#{selfRegistration.validateFirstName}": Method not found: gov.ny.cio.nysds.bean.SelfRegistration@aa60aa6.validateFirstName(javax.faces.context.FacesContext, javax.faces.component.UIComponent, java.lang.Object)
Last Name *
/selfreg.xhtml @60,110 validator="#{selfRegistration.validateLastName}": Method not found: gov.ny.cio.nysds.bean.SelfRegistration@aa60aa6.validateLastName(javax.faces.context.FacesContext, javax.faces.component.UIComponent, java.lang.Object)
Email *
/selfreg.xhtml @74,153 validator="#{selfRegistration.validateEmail}": Method not found: gov.ny.cio.nysds.bean.SelfRegistration@aa60aa6.validateEmail(javax.faces.context.FacesContext, javax.faces.component.UIComponent, java.lang.Object)
Confirm Email *
/selfreg.xhtml @84,166 validator="#{selfRegistration.validateConfirmEmail}": Method not found: gov.ny.cio.nysds.bean.SelfRegistration@aa60aa6.validateConfirmEmail(javax.faces.context.FacesContext, javax.faces.component.UIComponent, java.lang.Object)
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/selfreg.xhtml @133,58 validator="#{selfRegistration.validateCaptcha }": Method not found: gov.ny.cio.nysds.bean.SelfRegistration@aa60aa6.validateCaptcha(javax.faces.context.FacesContext, javax.faces.component.UIComponent, java.lang.Object)




After I had, I thought, registered once already.

Working just great.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19216648 - 12/02/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Then I got this
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Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, oft.dl.ais.system@oft.state.ny.us and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.




Really?  They can go fuck themselves.  When I try to go where they tell me I get this

Quote:

The server at oft.state.ny.us is taking too long to respond.





Working just great.  Spiffy, almost.


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Re: Government Vs. Business What Are Your Views? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19234647 - 12/06/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
I hear lots of talk about the need for governement regulation and control.  So I want to ask:

Who planted the idea in your mind (if it is in your mind) that businesses are automatically evil, profiteering entities led by tools with big mustaches and fat cigars hanging out of their mouths, and that their profits are evil and unfair, and that by God, they fuck over the average joe

AND:

the benign, helpful, awesome, Government has the answers and is the savior? :smirk:





Government and business both have the different meaning, but its slightly related to the government that's the fact. Some of rules and regulations are delineated by Government, which we have to follow before doing a business. If we allocation about business then Its should be cleared to be run on following all the rules and regulation, which had been defined by the government. So, I just think government is a line which defines how to do and run the business which you are running. :laugh:

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