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CaseyJones199
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It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble
#19212026 - 12/01/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The last time I had a monotub I had issues with keeping the polyfil in the holes. I'm surprised I haven't seen any posts about this issue. Or perhaps I just don't have the right polyfil... even though it's the name brand. Point is, when constructing this new monotub I took my past issues with polyfil into consideration.
I decided to drill the standard holes 2" on the monotub and then place in these PVC plumbing things in my holes and secure them with hot glue. Work's like a charm! Or does it? That's the question. I did all this extra work because I knew the polyfil would be easier to handle in these PVC parts simply because they have more length than a hole in a monotub. See what I am getting at here?
 
What we have here is a 66qt. monotub containing 7qts of spawn and 12 quarts of pasteurized coir/verm. The room is kept between 65-72°F. The ceiling lights have the 6500K CLFs. They are liberally kept on a 12/12 schedule.
Now this tub is 17 days old and shows very little interest in paying me off for all my hard work. Although knots have been on random parts of the substrate since day 7, those knots haven't done anything. The tub still looks like it has potential. The walls have heavy condensation, the surface of the substrate is still moist with water droplets.

Although I love everything FrankHorrigan has to say I haven't been following his words on poly-fil stuffing. I have had loose polyfil in all six holes, like TranscendingLife does. I did this because there is always so much condensation on the walls and the sub is still moist with water dropplets. I figured the potential extra evaporation would help.

As you can see there is a fan pointed near, but not at the tub in the opposite direction.
I don't want to sound cocky because I don't have a lot of grows under my belt but I have been reading about this subject for over a long time. It has been years now and I don't think there is anything I am doing wrong. But I could be, hell I probably am wrong. I hope I'm wrong so that I can't make these mistakes again.
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Edited by CaseyJones199 (12/01/13 11:02 AM)
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Sulfurshelfsean
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: CaseyJones199]
#19212041 - 12/01/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777#17332777 Read Frank's "How to Dial in Your Monotubs Like A Boss".
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FrankHorrigan said:
Run the fan on low or medium. A good indicator of good FAE is a line of evaporation running down one or both sides of the tub from the top holes. The rest of the walls should be covered in condensation, except for small rings around the bottom holes.
I'm not seeing evaporation lines under your holes. I think those extended plumbing fittings might be a problem for the FAE.
Edited by Sulfurshelfsean (12/01/13 11:07 AM)
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CaseyJones199
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#19212062 - 12/01/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am well aware of Frank's polyfil method. Nothing against Frank but it's not the only method out there that works. Have you heard of TranscendingLife?
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Chuckfinely
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#19212073 - 12/01/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My tubs tend to get a little more condensation in the winter months, that might be part of it.
I have the luxury of being able to fan my tubs nearly any time I want. I usually let my polyfil be tighter because of this. I have even just plain micro-pore taped the holes and fanned 5-6 times a day and it worked the same as my poly tubs
If all else fails, do what frank says
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Sulfurshelfsean
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: CaseyJones199]
#19212078 - 12/01/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, I've read up on TL's teks. Well of knowledge, that one.
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CaseyJones199
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: Chuckfinely]
#19212121 - 12/01/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You make a good point. My tub has barely done shit for over two weeks now and what fruiting growth they did do (the knots) stopped over a week ago. So why not go with Frank's polyfil method? Well I just went ahead and did that because it's worth a shot.
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Edited by CaseyJones199 (12/01/13 11:22 AM)
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: CaseyJones199]
#19212419 - 12/01/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The condensation on my monos looks different in the winter too, because my central heat is kicking on and off 24/7. Condensation is due to a temp differential and generally you can use the condensation in a mono to gauge your FAE...except when your room temps don't cooperate.
So IMO the condensation is not really telling in this instance.
The knots for 7 days though, that is troubling. Could be a contam about to come out from hiding.
The main reason I advocate the tight poly on the bottom is for RH retention. Sure, you can get better FAE with loose poly in all the holes, but your RH is going to suffer for it.
That's the issue with monos- your FAE and RH is directly connected, and you have to find a way to work with this to make your mycelium sing 
As long as that tub is clean, I think you're going to like the results, my friend
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CaseyJones199
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19212784 - 12/01/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the reassuring words Frank. I have a white liner so I can see the substrate from six sides and there doesn't appear to be a contamination.
I also made sure that all the spawn was contaminant free and the bulk substrate was properly pasteurized.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: It's Monotub Time... but with some trouble [Re: CaseyJones199]
#19212897 - 12/01/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like you might just need to wait a couple more days with your newly stuffed holes 
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