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Invisibletripndicular
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Sporeless prints
    #1921163 - 09/16/03 12:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Cousin IT recently tried to print some Malabars (18) , nice big caps fully deployed veils , nice undulating edges on caps . Not a one of them left spores on the foil , even left them there for a day and a half , not one nice print . Cousin IT noticed no signs of spores on the veils , but tried to print them thinking they just had'nt started to release them yet .
Any one else out there ever have this happen ?
Any of you "REAL SEASONED" growers have an explanation ?
Cousin IT says thanx for the input


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: tripndicular]
    #1921229 - 09/16/03 01:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well, some times mushrooms will throw off fruit bodies that just don't produce spores, so basically the fruit bodies are sterile.
Or you should just wait a few more days to see if they start dropping any spores(if they are not sterile) at all

Now some people will grow these strains (oyster mushrooms) due to the fact that they have a short shelf life normally, so with out the fruit body probucing any spores they will last longer on the shelf.


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: Ganoderma]
    #1921240 - 09/16/03 01:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

how are you printing them?


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: Ganoderma]
    #1921248 - 09/16/03 01:14 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Waited longer than should have , caps actually started to shrink , then rot , so scrubbed the mission , cleaned the foil and sterilized the pieces for future use . Is weird some  , like 2 prints from same crop produced spores . IT considered the possiblity of sterile mushies , but those 2 odd balls made that a questionable theory . But first guess is usually the right one , and now you mentioned same thing .
THANX A MILLION FOR THE INPUT . :laugh:
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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: thisone]
    #1921277 - 09/16/03 01:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

By cutting the cap of the stem as close as possible to cap . Laying on foil for a minimum of 6 - 9 hours
(usually come out real dark ) , covering with jars to prevent foriegn debris from landing on foil . Of course wait till veils tears away , wait till cap opens up a bit . Nice clean enviro , gloves on hands , surgical mask on face , hair cap on head , small vents under jars so moisture can escape .......... Have made many a good print this way , never had a whole batch produce nothing though .


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: tripndicular]
    #1921838 - 09/16/03 04:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ANNO ??????


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: tripndicular]
    #1923778 - 09/17/03 01:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

>wait till cap opens up a bit .

Wait longer, wait until you see quite some spores on the remains of the veil. The cap should nearly flatten.


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: tripndicular]
    #1924001 - 09/17/03 02:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

As usual, Anno is correct, however, we're dealing with Malabars, known to be the weakest spore producing strain of cubensis.

You may have to use 2 or 3 caps in succession to get ONE decent print.


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: Anno]
    #1924857 - 09/17/03 01:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I did guys . Nice undulating caps should have described that .
I waited longer than normal with this batch cause I saw no spores laying on the veil . Sometimes veils turn from white to purpelish brown , indicating that spores are being released .
THANX , I'm gonna write it off as "sterile mushies" .


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: tripndicular]
    #1924861 - 09/17/03 01:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Clone it :-)


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: Paid]
    #1924879 - 09/17/03 01:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Clones do not go thru mail to well , keeping a good strain is not my problem . Have never had a batch of so many caps fail to produce spores , even Malabars which are normally tough to remove veils from cap . Trial and error ... best means of gaining experience !  :wink:
Maybe the Mushroom Goddess felt I was undeserving !  :confused: 


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So with that said here is our mission statement .

Then the priest fell into a trance or swoon,& said unto the Queen of heaven ; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law !


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Re: Sporeless prints [Re: tripndicular]
    #1924974 - 09/17/03 02:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Na, she was just busy helping some one else :-)


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