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KILTRO
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Idiot selling 5htp...
#19210741 - 12/01/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just came back from a bushdoof Earthcore, anyway some idiot was strolling around the campsite with a sign ''5htp serotonin booster!'' for 3 days straight, selling too drunken Md'ed pilled up acid ravers claiming it would boost their highs, 30$ for like 200mg i lol'ed,
met a few people that had just prior dropped numerous mdma caps and were snorting lines of 5htp... then i told them the dangers and to go to the Er, they freaked out hard,
+ saw a Ambulance chopper 3 times before i left
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JesusIsLord
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: KILTRO]
#19210744 - 12/01/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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snorting 5htp 
well, if people are dumb enough to buy it 
caveat emptor
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: KILTRO] 3
#19210885 - 12/01/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You probably caused a few panic attacks and that's about it.
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Moonshoe]
#19210891 - 12/01/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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5-htp causes build up of serotonin in the peripheries. It also contributed to my case of serotonin syndrome. fuck that shit. wutta cunt that guy is selling it for so expensive too. Some people just have to make their buck.
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: KILTRO]
#19210928 - 12/01/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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how was earthcore?? i didnt end up buying a ticket or anything. rainbow in a few months as well.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Legend]
#19210936 - 12/01/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes 5htp and MDMA is a very real risk for seratonin syndrome for sure . I got lucky and never had a problem taking 5 hot before or after MDMA but its not wise.
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Legend]
#19211105 - 12/01/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i dont know many people that went. i wont be going to rainbow this year.
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KILTRO
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It was ok.. the vibe was pretty shit, too many drunk schoolies kids, but some of the acts were good
Rainbow will be much better
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: KILTRO]
#19211134 - 12/01/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah i didn't have high hopes for it
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: indica]
#19211135 - 12/01/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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how did you go selling overpriced cut-down mdma?
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JesusIsLord
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#19211146 - 12/01/13 03:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moonshoe said: Yes 5htp and MDMA is a very real risk for seratonin syndrome for sure . I got lucky and never had a problem taking 5 hot before or after MDMA but its not wise.
you should be a pharmacologist dawg.
you like droogz n chemicals n thangs.
y'dig?
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KILTRO
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: indica]
#19211172 - 12/01/13 03:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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well with the presence of Vic police , decided not to bring large quantities of my Pure Mdma, only a few 50 bags
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Moonshoe]
#19211208 - 12/01/13 04:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moonshoe said: Yes 5htp and MDMA is a very real risk for seratonin syndrome for sure . I got lucky and never had a problem taking 5 hot before or after MDMA but its not wise.
Source? Sorry but it's hard to take someone seriously when they don't correctly spell the alleged syndrome they're claiming 2 substances can cause.... I'm not disagreeing with you, but that's not just a minor omission.. I was under the impression that 5 HTP has never been associated with serotonin syndrome in humans, I'm not an expert and am open to change that view with credible evidence to the contrary...
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Moonshoe
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Insidious]
#19212349 - 12/01/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well someone in this thread just said it happened to them.
I don't know for sure. Never happened to me.
Theoretically it's pretty obvious how it could be a risk.
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Moonshoe]
#19212550 - 12/01/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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5htp damages the heart valves
That stuff sucks.
To relieve your MDMA hangover take some oxycodone or a benzo.
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Edited by Bitter Cactus (12/01/13 12:49 PM)
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millzy


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i didn't realize 5htp is bad for after/between trips. i take 1-200mg with melatonin before bed every night.
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: millzy]
#19212632 - 12/01/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man google "5htp heart valves" then tell me if you want to keep taking it.
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millzy


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Quote:
Bitter Cactus said: Man google "5htp heart valves" then tell me if you want to keep taking it.
for starters, burden of proof. also, here's what i turned up from my googling:
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Q: People with a particular (and rare) type of serotonin-secreting tumor called hindgut carcinoid, also have various heart problems, such as fibrosis of the endocardium and right heart valves, and heart failure. Should they avoid 5-HTP?
A: That's also pretty scary - until you consider the fact that these conditions have nothing to do with 5-HTP. This rare disease (carcinoid) is associated with extremely high serotonin levels (much, much higher than are obtainable by taking recommended doses of 5-HTP). It's true that this disease, in a very few instances, is associated with the heart problems mentioned above. However, nobody who has studied carcinoid thoroughly would jump to the conclusion that 5-HTP or another serotonin precursor might cause it! There is no evidence to support an initiatory role for serotonin in hindgut carcinoid or any other disease, nor to justify the contention that 5-HTP can cause the kinds of dramatic increases in serum serotonin levels associated with carcinoid tumors. Furthermore, even if 5-HTP caused huge increases in serum serotonin levels - which it has not been demonstrated to do - there is no evidence that this, in itself, would be harmful or that it could increase heart valve problems.8 In fact, in cats, 5-HTP-induced serotonin production has been found to reduce vulnerability to ventricular fibrillation.9 (One caution, however, for anyone with this rare type of carcinoid tumor: Since there is a statistical correspondence between serum levels of serotonin and valvular heart disease in some patients with carcinoid tumors (19 out of 604 in the Duke study),10 it is inadvisable at this time for those with carcinoid cancer to take supplemental 5-HTP.)
source.
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Quote:
Bitter Cactus said:
To relieve your MDMA hangover take some oxycodone or a benzo.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Idiot selling 5htp... [Re: Apostle]
#19213162 - 12/01/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I take lots of supplements but 5-htp is one I don't mess with.
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