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hgmstl
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: teknix]
#19214185 - 12/01/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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 No flaming in Cultivation!
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Edited by stonesun (12/01/13 11:03 PM)
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teknix
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19214262 - 12/01/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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dense dens/Submit adjective 1. closely compacted in substance.
Thanks.
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hgmstl
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: teknix]
#19214281 - 12/01/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said:
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dense dens/Submit adjective 1. closely compacted in substance.
Thanks.
When you're right you're right.

These ridiculous threads with people who have a social disconnect are the best.
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19214283 - 12/01/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why, because you can't phase me?
I don't conform bro.
Nor does your opinion about me mean anything, because you don't know me at all.
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hgmstl
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: teknix]
#19214284 - 12/01/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: Why, because you can't phase me?
I don't conform bro.
Bro!
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19214296 - 12/01/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you have anything to add about the tek or any other mycological/cultivation related stuff or are you just here to call names with your puppet?
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hgmstl
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: teknix]
#19214327 - 12/01/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: Do you have anything to add about the tek or any other mycological/cultivation related stuff or are you just here to call names with your puppet?
I'm not a puppet, haha. I'm just an annoying spectator. I having nothing worthwhile to add, and it looks like you do not either.
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hgmstl
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19214361 - 12/01/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bro!
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Parafaragaramus
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19214381 - 12/01/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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dense [dens] Show IPA adjective, densΒ·er, densΒ·est. 1. having the component parts closely compacted together; crowded or compact: a dense forest; dense population. 2. stupid; slow-witted; dull. 3. intense; extreme: dense ignorance. 4. relatively opaque; transmitting little light, as a photographic negative, optical glass, or color. 5. difficult to understand or follow because of being closely packed with ideas or complexities of style: a dense philosophical essay.
Words have more than one definition. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Also 10 pages of denial in 24 hours. That has to be a Shroomery record.
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19214392 - 12/01/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP--YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT THIS WAY. You're Not Supposed To, because it's not the Right Way, and we're going to tell on you.
Come on, guys.
I agree this probably should be labeled "experimental" because it's unorthodox, but either use it or don't use it: don't give the OP a ton of shit for creating and using it because "it won't work". Technically, the OP is right--he did it and it worked, therefore it does work. I don't think the argument about the success rate is relevant, because I didn't see any argument in the original post regarding success rates--only that the OP did it this way and it worked.
I also agree that posting pics would bolster the OP's argument, but I understand why someone would not want to post photographic evidence of growing mushrooms.
OP: I appreciate your dedication to rhetorical debate and spotting logical fallacies. (You had me at Appeal to Authority, tee hee. ) With that said, I'm probably not going to use your tek because I'm not convinced that it will be as successful (for me, anyway) as my way of getting it done, which happens to be the orthodox missionary-style WBS and horse poo. But rock on, dude.
PS: You totally had to have known that by posting this you'd catch shit from all angles...The counterculture doesn't want to admit it, but we engage in some rampant, junior high-style tribalism in this bitch.
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19214411 - 12/01/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I know I was going to catch a bunch of shit, but I was prepared. Thanks for the consideration and understanding.
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hgmstl
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19214418 - 12/01/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19214759 - 12/01/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When you post a tek expect some criticism. When you make a claim that contradicts everyone else's predictions expect people to want proof.
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: Kizzle]
#19214919 - 12/01/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I expect and even appreciate critique, if it is at all constructive. Heckling however, is pretty childish.
What's really proof? I could take a pic of an entire different try and claim I used the tek, and how would you know? You wouldn't, you would still be going on my word.
If you think a pic is somehow proof, you have a lot to learn.
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: teknix]
#19214934 - 12/01/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lots to learn bro!
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19215064 - 12/01/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My fave part of the largely incomprehensible "tek" is the bit where he tells us that wheat flour is an acceptable substitute for brown rice or rye.
Know why people bother to obtain rarer, more exotic flours for their projects when wheat flour is available at the corner store? It's because wheat flour produces substandard yields and substandard potency.
I also like the bit where you can "skip a step" if you have a flowhood. Do I have to turn it on, or does just having one in my basement allow me to skip the step? And is it the thing with the cardboard I can skip, or the whole paragraph the cardboard is mentioned in? I think I might skip the entire "tek" and just stick with proven methods that have been thoroughly tested by hundreds of people.
And to the guy who jumped to his defense...it's not a matter of "just don't try it if you don't like it". He's spreading disinformation. We regularly have new users of this forum dig up this kind of BS and take it seriously. Then three months later they post to the forum asking why all they have is mold..."i mean, I used the Oven Tek for my transfers, built myself a TiT incubator, and supercharged my substrate with NPK fertilizer and liquid coffee like the awesome teks I saw on the Shroomery told me to".
Yeah, some of us are condescending jerks. Also, we know what we're talking about.
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: teknix]
#19215080 - 12/01/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: What's really proof? I could take a pic of an entire different try and claim I used the tek, and how would you know? You wouldn't, you would still be going on my word.
I guess there comes a point where you got to take someones word. I guess if a person shows a succession of pics that start with a inoculation, then a master colonizing, G2G jars, the sub being prepped, the spawned tub, the pinset and the harvest, its pretty convincing. I could just lie about stuff but where do we get as a community that way? Sure you could fake all that, but usually someone who can actually grow to begin with does not have much to gain by such a deceit.
Fact is, I could be a 14 year old kid claiming to use my own jizz to inoculate jars and that I grew 11 pounds invitro with that. Actual pics of a harvest might convince people, because its unlikely that a 14 year old kid is gonna have a harvest of anything except maybe a jar of jizz
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: hgmstl]
#19215081 - 12/01/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Proof is other people being able to reproduce the results. Part of the reason peoples opinions are so biased is this and similar techniques have been tried before. Not to mention the reasoning behind it defies logic. That's strictly referring to sterilizing in an oven. I have no doubt you can g2g grain spawn to a properly steriled bag of verm/flour mix with great results.
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Re: THE Oven Tek. No PC for Bulk tubs/trays. [Re: teknix]
#19215956 - 12/01/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: I left this thread alone for 36 hours thinking he must be drunk or something. I didn't want to lock it then because I figured he'd sober up and realize what a bunch of crap this nonsense is.
You can't put brf in a foil covered tray and 'sterilize' it in the oven. This guy doesn't understand basic science regarding pressure, steam, and sterilization. For crying out loud, he doesn't even know what steam is.
Enough already. Take the flaming elsewhere. RR
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