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Chuck H
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Dose confusion!?!
#19209891 - 11/30/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's been a LOOOooong time since I dosed. As in half my lifetime ago! No $h!t. So I've been hunting edibles for about seven years now and I ran across some actives. My crank is turning but I'm still on the fence. We'll see. But, should it come up...
I've read that one or two fresh ps. cyans is enough to cause "marked changes in perception". I read that they lose 40% of their game dried. I gave a friend ten dried and told him to take four and wait a half hour and then bump it if it's not kicking. He reported what sounds like a soft level two ride on five caps. Now...
The dosage calculator here says that with cyans level two takes just under 1g dry. I have about 55 caps. cracker dry they weigh 1.85g. So if twenty five dried specimens is the suggested dose, how did only five do it for my friend?!?
Same with pelli's. I picked about 240 specimens. The dosage is reported as 20 to 40 fresh caps (assuming a mid level ride I guess). So lets assume a 50% potency loss for drying, even though I think it's much lower for this species. So the average of 30 becomes 60 specimens for a mid level ride. I should have four doses. But the actual dry weight is about 3g. That's the suggested dry weight amount for one mid level trip!?!
I understand that dry weight and cap count are different. But some correlations have indeed been established on both fronts WRT dosage. How can they be so grossly different?
Basically, I just don't want to ingest five of my dry cyans and not trip and I certainly don't want to eat twenty five of them and experience a meltdown. I'm not up for that kind of ride before re-familiarizing if you get my meaning.
Any clarifications are greatly appreciated.
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Edited by Chuck H (11/30/13 07:56 PM)
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Re: Dose confusion!?! [Re: Chuck H]
#19209973 - 11/30/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, you're making it way too complicated for yourself.
I've never heard of any mushroom losing potency unless dried incorrectly, and I've never understood the whole "take x number of caps", just weigh your shit and you know how much you're taking.
You need a scale, and pocket scales are cheap and easy to come by.
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sunshine
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Take a little bit until you figure out how potent they are.
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Re: Dose confusion!?! [Re: sunshine]
#19210052 - 11/30/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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5-8 whole mushrooms has never done me wrong, no matter the species, wet or dry....I haven't measured a dose since my first time out.
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Chuck H
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Thanks all. I don't mean to over think it. And anyway that seems like the exact wrong headspace to be in. I'm planning it with a bud who's only done a low dose once. I just don't want either of us to be in that "Uh oh! Better strap in!" place or have it be lack luster either. Anything in between would be all right. But the dosage claims are so contrary that predictions seem impossible. I think we'll go with the cyans. I'll take the twenty largest and chop them up fine, then divide it into two equal piles and we'll have a spaghetti lunch We'l probably go out to some local trail park and just poke at stuff and joke around. Should be good.
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