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eastwoodathighnoon
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cakes in sgfc?
#19205508 - 11/29/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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whats up I had a quick question about my cakes being in my sgfc. i got 5 1/2pint cakes in a 8.5×11 tuprware box. i was wondern if that gonna be enough room for my cakes to breath? could this effect its fruiting?
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How tall is it?
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eastwoodathighnoon
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it's about a little bit longer than a foot and under a foot high i would send pics but for sum reason my photo gallery doent want work here
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as long as you have holes in all six sides, a 3-4inch layer of perlite
and the box on legs so air can come up through the bottom it should be fine.
Be sure to be doing your misting then fanning in that order to control
humidity and fresh air.
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eastwoodathighnoon
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Re: cakes in sgfc? [Re: rumfor69]
#19205775 - 11/29/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i got about an inch or more of perlite but ru level is staying between 94 and 99
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ok that's good rh its working then. just keep an eye on your perlites
moisture lvl being that its thinner it may dry out faster. Mist cakes till they glisten.
Then fan, and repeat every so many hours or when the cakes look dry again.
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eastwoodathighnoon said: i got about an inch or more of perlite but ru level is staying between 94 and 99
How do you know the RH is between 94 and 99? Regardless with only an inch of perlite, you are probably going to have to soak it every day or so if you want it to stay moist Its better to build a tall SGFC that's large enough to not only have the proper 4" or more of perlite, but also give your mushies some room to grow.
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Ive always used huge rubbermaids as fruitinf chambers in the past.. but duento beingnunemplyed til december i had to buy a smaller tub, abot 14" high by 14" length and 10" wide and i have several cakes fruiting in it.. as far as the size of yoyr fruiting chamber the only problem you should run into is mushies growing too big for the chamber.. and that doesnt sound like a bad problem to me
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Re: cakes in sgfc? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19206515 - 11/29/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would keep an eye on your temps having a lot of cakes in a small area will put off more heat. Also I recommend 4-5" of perlite to be on the safe side and always get a humidity gauge from cigar shop wrap in a wet washcloth for an hour then put it in your fc good luck keep us posted.
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eastwoodathighnoon
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i bought one of those Accurite thermometer from lowes it tells me humidity and temp seems to be pretty acura
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eastwoodathighnoon said: i bought one of those Accurite thermometer from lowes it tells me humidity and temp seems to be pretty acura
Can you calibrate it?
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eastwoodathighnoon
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nah..just takes a min to read
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eastwoodathighnoon
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but the walls of the sgfc r staying wet looking
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eastwoodathighnoon said: but the walls of the sgfc r staying wet looking
That is bad....they should dry up within a couple hours of misting....if not then the chamber is not getting enough FAE.
Are there 1/4" holes every 2" on all 6 sides?
How often do you mist/fan the cakes?
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eastwoodathighnoon
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ive been mistn n fanning every 4 hrs. ive been keepin walls wet thought that would help with humidity
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Fruiting Chamber A SGFC has 1/4" holes spaces 2 inches apart in a grid patten on all six sides. 4-6 inches of moist perlite. No attachments made to it with any extra things like humidifiers. Optimally the SGFC should be in the middle of a room. No fans should be run in the room with the SGFC, but a cracked window is OK. A humidifier in your house can help to raise the ambient RH but don't put it near your SGFC put it in the other corner of the room if you do decide to run a humidifier at all. The SGFC IMO should have at least 6-12 inches of room from any wall on all 6 sides. This includes finding some sort of raisers to elevate the SGFC off of the surface it's on. This is what can happen if you make your SGFC the right way. Here's what will happen if you do it the wrong way. You'll likely rage quit.
Misting and Fanning. This is a source of much grief and 100's of posts a week here. Misting and fanning is not at all complicated as it needs to be. In general you'll mist your cakes until they glisten(yes they can even with the verm on them) and then fan right after the mist. You can mist your cakes directly and you should. When you notice the cake is no longer glistening you can mist it again and then fan. This occurs on average of 3-5 times a day. Don't worry about sleeping or being gone 12 hours. Just do it when you're around and don't forget about it is all. Fanning is not FAE it's only purpose is to relive the high RH air so that the cakes can get a kickstart on evaporation.
FAE This is a phenomenon (Fresh air exchange) in a properly built SGFC this is constantly happening. The perlite is naturally cooler than the surrounding air this moves molecules closer to eachother as the lose kinetic energy. This creates low pressure which pulls air up through the bottom holes. As the air moves through the perlite it picks up humidity and keeps the chamber at or above 90%RH. This occurs naturally without the fanning and is why we like to have no fans in the room and is also why fanning after misting is not a replacement for FAE.
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Notahacker420 said: Fanning is not a replacement for constant FAE.
You would need to fan several times per hour.

You need FAE, that's what allows for a slow evaporation of moisture off of the surface of your substrate(cakes) the slow evaporation is a pinning trigger. Fanning is not allowing for a slow evaporation FAE does. FAE is passive and it's the exchange of fresh air going through the perlite and out through the holes above the perlite that keeps the RH high and also allows for that slow evaporation off of the surface of your cakes. Misting is only putting moisture onto your cakes so that they can evaporate slowly and pin. The fanning removes high RH air from the SGFC so the mist you put on your cakes has a kickstart to evaporation. The fanning is not FAE. You can mist your cakes directly and you should, don't mist the walls and you can mist the perlite to keep it wet but 4-6 inches will stay wet for weeks.
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eastwoodathighnoon
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damn that about sums it up thanks bros!
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eastwoodathighnoon
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well i misted and waited a cple hrs and the water on the walls did start to dry up, but not completely . i thought it would have been good to keep walls wet. i hope to start seeing pins soon
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