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MadMind
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4-ACO-DMT Experiences?
#19206930 - 11/29/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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After experimenting with lots of psychedelics I am always excited to try new psychedelics and the experience I gain with them. From what I read 4-aco-dmt is similar to psilocybin and metabolizes into 4-ho-met (psilocin) in the body. I heard the effects are similar but it's a different come up. Also it's very cheap for the amount needed to trip which is why I am also curious about this.
Has anyone tripped off of 4-aco-dmt? What did you experience? Would you recommend it?
I'm thinking about getting fumurate but it's the least potent. Maybe I should snort it?
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Edited by MadMind (11/29/13 11:51 PM)
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aw11driver



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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: MadMind]
#19206973 - 11/29/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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erowid.org is a good starting place to read experience reports. I havent done it so I cant answer, but people say its like mushrooms, also that its different than mushrooms. id assume its all on the user.
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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: aw11driver]
#19207022 - 11/30/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would defiantly recommend 4-aco-dmt as well as 4-ado-met. The DMT version is very close to mush but has a slightly different vibe to it. It can go vary deep depending on how high you dose, but in general its eayser on the mind than mushrooms can be. My most memorable trip off it I took 20mg and 4g of syrian rue, it felt kinda like the DMT world but slowed down a notch. I had a complete ego death of this dose. The come up is quite quick but if you'r in a comfortable environment and just let it take you over than this isn't a problem. I would recommend using this chemical in personal settings. I enjoy it at night in my room alone, this makes things so much deeper and more meaningful for me. The MET version is very euphoric and warm. Visuals are strong and headspace is low. This chemical to me is the ideal version of a social mushroom trip. I feel energized but not tweaky. I like to take the MET and go in the wilderness with a friend or two. I haven't experimented with this chem in higher doses but would imagine that it would get very deep like its brother if you took enough of it. The only downside to the MET is the vasoconstriction. I sometimes notice how my neck feels sore and I just feel tight in my body. Its not too bad by any means though, I still consider this one of my favorite psychedelics. Give both a try and see what you think, I doubt you will be disappointed. Oh ya and the body high the 4-aco-dmt gives me is truly orgasmic! happy tripping
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Edited by mutantmushroom (11/30/13 12:17 AM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: MadMind]
#19207393 - 11/30/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MadMind said: After experimenting with lots of psychedelics I am always excited to try new psychedelics and the experience I gain with them. From what I read 4-aco-dmt is similar to psilocybin and metabolizes into 4-ho-met (psilocin) in the body. I heard the effects are similar but it's a different come up. Also it's very cheap for the amount needed to trip which is why I am also curious about this.
Has anyone tripped off of 4-aco-dmt? What did you experience? Would you recommend it?
I'm thinking about getting fumurate but it's the least potent. Maybe I should snort it?
I like the sig! And 4-aco 
wish I could tell ya more

bill
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Acidreamer
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I looooooved 4-AcO-DMT. I only tried it once so far at 12mg and it was stronger than I expected, maybe comparable to 1/8th but with less confusion and my legs weren't all wobbly like on shrooms. This compound definitely has spiritual potential to me. The trip was very short, maybe 4 hrs from comeup to baseline - I liked that. It felt rather DMT like at the peak actually with that same buzzy lightheaded feeling, I had to lie down.
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I had my first experience with it on Wednesday. I took 17mg of fumarate and it was a pretty mild trip actually. It felt almost the same as mushrooms but different. The visuals were the same but my mind was pretty clear for the most part. Usually shrooms feel spiritual for me every single time but not with this surprisingly. I think it would have if I had taken more. I'd have to try it some more but right now I'd say it's a great drug but mushrooms are slightly better for having profound thoughts. Everything else about it is the same.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: Acidreamer]
#19207788 - 11/30/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just a warning...you guys should be careful with 4-aco-dmt. This stuff is really really tricky....I ATE 33mg and had my one and only 'bad trip'...this was a whole different level of crazy...EVEN compared to IVing this divine chemical. Memories of previous days were going off in my mind at random and at an absolute chaotic order. The ONLY thing I could do was lay in my bed, in the fetal position until it was over. That day is the one and only day I truly realized that this drug can do whatever it wants with you.

bill
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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O-Acetylpsilocin is a really amazing chemical. It's doesn't metabolize into 4-HO-MET but some metabolises into 4-HO-DMT(psilocin) when u take it orally. I like it better than shroomz. My favorite ROA is snorting because in theory that prevents the 4-Aco-DMT from converting into psilocin, 4-AcO-DMT is a more potent chemical, adding an acetyl to psilocin makes it more potent like adding a couple acetyl groups to morphine does (diacetylmorphine is heroin)
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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: MadMind]
#19208012 - 11/30/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have experimented quite extensively with 4-aco-dmt at this point (fumarate) with doses ranging from 12mg-30mg. If you have a good source this stuff is in my opinion very amazing. I get absolutely gnarly visuals, lots of natural flowing/swirling patterns similar to mushrooms but a little more defined to me. Great mild body feel too! Also listening/playing music on the stuff.... out of this world!!!!!
I would say just make sure you have a proper scale to weigh out mg doses and then ingest orally w/ a gel cap. I'm sure you could snort it and I have heard IV'ing is out of this world (literally) but for your first time with this stuff oral seems to be the way to go. Good vibes! Peace
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If you dont pick up before hand, your doing it wrong. My highest dose so far was 32 mgs. WOW. This one is definitely a keeper. I also loved snorting for the redose, it just rocks.
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I really like it, my favorite time with it so far has been ~35mg and it was an excellent level 3 trip. I would highly recommend you get it and try it. Personally I do not find it very similar to mushrooms besides the basic tryptamine feel to it, it is very different.
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Bill_Oreilly
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SteelPanther said: I really like it, my favorite time with it so far has been ~35mg and it was an excellent level 3 trip. I would highly recommend you get it and try it. Personally I do not find it very similar to mushrooms besides the basic tryptamine feel to it, it is very different.
I agree. If you gave me a double-blinded study I could tell them apart. Easily. What I noticed, which is odd, that when you skip from route to route the chemical turns into a whole different beast. Oral was much different IV, IME. But let me add that when I had that psycho-trip with the flashing memories, it was a whole different beast then even when I IV'd it. So who the fuck knows?
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Bill_Oreilly said: Just a warning...you guys should be careful with 4-aco-dmt. This stuff is really really tricky....I ATE 33mg and had my one and only 'bad trip'...this was a whole different level of crazy...EVEN compared to IVing this divine chemical. Memories of previous days were going off in my mind at random and at an absolute chaotic order. The ONLY thing I could do was lay in my bed, in the fetal position until it was over. That day is the one and only day I truly realized that this drug can do whatever it wants with you.

bill
Some times when you take huge doses it takes you right past the fear. 33mg is kind of in that range where it can head either direction. I've actually pulled myself out of bad trips by doing more psychedelics before. It's weird how that works, but it's almost like it forces you to give up the fight
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all I feel is shame jacksson...all I feel is shame, brother
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Jesus Cristo
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JacksonMetaller said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: Just a warning...you guys should be careful with 4-aco-dmt. This stuff is really really tricky....I ATE 33mg and had my one and only 'bad trip'...this was a whole different level of crazy...EVEN compared to IVing this divine chemical. Memories of previous days were going off in my mind at random and at an absolute chaotic order. The ONLY thing I could do was lay in my bed, in the fetal position until it was over. That day is the one and only day I truly realized that this drug can do whatever it wants with you.

bill
Some times when you take huge doses it takes you right past the fear. 33mg is kind of in that range where it can head either direction. I've actually pulled myself out of bad trips by doing more psychedelics before. It's weird how that works, but it's almost like it forces you to give up the fight
yeah this has been true for me at times. i can definitely see it going the other way though, but i think that comes with experience.
and bill, i've noticed that too with this chem. it's unpredictable especially after you start dabbling in bigger doses and realize it's potential. i've had beautiful trips on it, and later, on equal doses sometimes, it's complete inter-dimensional head-fuck
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Bill_Oreilly
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Jesus Cristo said:
Some times when you take huge doses it takes you right past the fear. 33mg is kind of in that range where it can head either direction. I've actually pulled myself out of bad trips by doing more psychedelics before. It's weird how that works, but it's almost like it forces you to give up the fight
yeah this has been true for me at times. i can definitely see it going the other way though, but i think that comes with experience.
and bill, i've noticed that too with this chem. it's unpredictable especially after you start dabbling in bigger doses and realize it's potential. i've had beautiful trips on it, and later, on equal doses sometimes, it's complete inter-dimensional head-fuck
Exactly. I went into it thinking "pshhh I shot this shit theres no way I cannot handle it"
and look what happened..
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: MadMind]
#19210299 - 11/30/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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In my experience 4-ACO-DMT is very similar feeling to mushrooms. I laughed hysterically during the come-up, which isn't normal for me (though some people do during mushroom come-ups).
I found 4-ACO-DMT to be more visual than mushrooms, but its hard to say what the differences are because
A. I've only tried 4-ACO-DMT once, and B. Every trip is different anyway, who knows, maybe I would have had the same effects from an equivalent dose of psilocybin.
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aw11driver



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I need a scale!! ive got some ive been sitting on that i cant wait to try. Anyone know how long fumarate will last in a cool dark place? Also if i did volumetric dosing could i store the left over in the fridge?
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MadMind
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Bill_Oreilly said: Just a warning...you guys should be careful with 4-aco-dmt. This stuff is really really tricky....I ATE 33mg and had my one and only 'bad trip'...this was a whole different level of crazy...EVEN compared to IVing this divine chemical. Memories of previous days were going off in my mind at random and at an absolute chaotic order. The ONLY thing I could do was lay in my bed, in the fetal position until it was over. That day is the one and only day I truly realized that this drug can do whatever it wants with you.

bill
That's strange, I have a similar experience with a high dose of LSA. It was my first and only bad trip. (Which is strange because I have never had one on more potent lsd/dmt/shrooms/etc). I don't think you can do anything to prevent a bad trip. Best thing you can do is just face it head on and get over it. Bottling things inside of you isn't good for you. I view bad trips as the opportunity to defeat something you've been cowering to for life.
I'll think about ordering 100mg, and snorting 10mg on my first try.
Wish me good luck guys!
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MadMind
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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: aw11driver]
#19211154 - 12/01/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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aw11driver said: I need a scale!! ive got some ive been sitting on that i cant wait to try. Anyone know how long fumarate will last in a cool dark place? Also if i did volumetric dosing could i store the left over in the fridge?
From what I've read fumarate is the most stable version of 4-aco-dmt (compaired to hcl and freebase). It should last up to 7-8 months in a cold dark area.
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