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It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........
    #19209153 - 11/30/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

NOT!  It seems they couldn't cover the deadline for prepping the site healthcare.gov. 

We've had smoke blown up our asses again.  How long do we have to put up with these moron progressives in the government?:mad:


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19209253 - 11/30/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Do you have any sources to back up your claims?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19209430 - 11/30/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Give it a shot.  I just did in NY which supposedly has been working.  No.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19209494 - 11/30/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why don't you try your state website?  I guess I wouldn't put it past zappaisgod to try and use the Federal exchange instead of his own state's exchange, to try and clog up the pipes.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19209558 - 11/30/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I did use NY.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19209564 - 11/30/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Your state run sites have nothing to do with healthcare.gov :smirk:


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19209577 - 11/30/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Your state run sites have nothing to do with healthcare.gov :smirk:




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19209556#19209556


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19209581 - 11/30/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So you admit your state run health exchange has nothing to do with healthcare.gov, the site this thread is about?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19209611 - 11/30/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Why don't you try your state website?




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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19209633 - 11/30/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't need to try my state website because I have health insurance.  I actually did use it the other day to help give a couple coworkers alternative ideas instead of the company insurance, and it worked just fine.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19209685 - 11/30/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't need to try my state website because I have health insurance.  I actually did use it the other day to help give a couple coworkers alternative ideas instead of the company insurance, and it worked just fine.




ORLY?  What state?  Post a screen shot.  I used to have health insurance.  In 31 days I won't


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19209693 - 11/30/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Minnesota.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19209699 - 11/30/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks exactly like NY, which failed.  Screen shot please.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19209714 - 11/30/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)





MN Sure working just fine.

Now you.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19209845 - 11/30/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't get on NY because I can't read the captcha.  I tried over 10 times.

By the way, I can't tell what your screen shot is showing.  $165 premium and $750 deducible is for who?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19209875 - 11/30/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Me.

That doesn't even take into account any subsidies I would be eligible for.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19225578 - 12/04/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It is annoying that everyone blames stuff on one person. Maybe you should start blaming these problems on the actual people causing them. Like corporations and the politicians that get paid by them, wait, that is every single politician. You guys say people are fooled/brainwashed by Obama himself. How can you spend so much time talking about something you don't even understand in the slightest?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: mindgnome]
    #19225953 - 12/04/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Obama is just the tip o the iceburg and it runs in all directions.

Some use politics as a nice distraction from facing the whole enchilada.

In any case I find the whole thing a non issue. I'm going to end up with better healthcare for much less money most likely due to the luck of the draw.  I never asked to have my old policy withdrawn so I'm not going to feel bad if I take advantage of what is offered in it's place. 

And just for yucks I asked my old provider what would be the difference in cost for the policy they told me I'd be getting in place of my old one.  It would have cost me way over $400 more a month.    Thanks Obama. :lol:


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: mindgnome]
    #19226475 - 12/04/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It is annoying that everyone blames stuff on one person. Maybe you should start blaming these problems on the actual people causing them. Like corporations and the politicians that get paid by them, wait, that is every single politician. You guys say people are fooled/brainwashed by Obama himself. How can you spend so much time talking about something you don't even understand in the slightest?




How can you talk about anything at all?  If you don't like corporations stop using their products.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19230290 - 12/05/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Guys... be patient here... Its a government program we're talking about. Not only that, but it practacally affect 100% of Americans. You can't possibly expect it to work well in a couple of months...

Give it a year. Then shit will be good. You gotta be realistic. Bitching and whining won't make it go faster


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19231271 - 12/05/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Guys... be patient here... Its a government program we're talking about. Not only that, but it practacally affect 100% of Americans. You can't possibly expect it to work well in a couple of months...

Give it a year. Then shit will be good. You gotta be realistic. Bitching and whining won't make it go faster



1.  The employer insurance mandate has already been put off for a year.  This is going to effect a lot more people than are getting screwed now.
2.  They had 3 years + and over $500 million dollars to set it up and still blew it.  Andy would have done a better job for $50 thousand
3.  It still doesn't work.
4.  My health insurance is gone as 12/31/13


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19231377 - 12/05/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Patlal said:
Guys... be patient here... Its a government program we're talking about. Not only that, but it practacally affect 100% of Americans. You can't possibly expect it to work well in a couple of months...

Give it a year. Then shit will be good. You gotta be realistic. Bitching and whining won't make it go faster



1.  The employer insurance mandate has already been put off for a year.  This is going to effect a lot more people than are getting screwed now.
2.  They had 3 years + and over $500 million dollars to set it up and still blew it.  Andy would have done a better job for $50 thousand
3.  It still doesn't work.
4.  My health insurance is gone as 12/31/13




Alright, I'm not gonna defend this shit anymore.

What happens Jan 1st 2014 btw?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Patlal]
    #19231396 - 12/05/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I will probably be uninsured


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19231477 - 12/05/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Alright, I'm not gonna defend this shit anymore.




The real mystery is why you ever did.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19231482 - 12/05/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
I will probably be uninsured




Welcome to the club.  :grin:


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19231787 - 12/05/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Alright, I'm not gonna defend this shit anymore.




The real mystery is why you ever did.




Gave it a chance.

Let me down.

So fuck it


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19231875 - 12/05/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, seriously.

The man never held a job.
The man presides over one of the most secretive administrations in US history.
When he was a Senator the majority of his votes were "present".
He was anointed by the media.
His arrogance seems to know no bounds.
He's a bully.
He's a liar.
He's divisive.
He has an ego the size of Canada.
He doesn't communicate with Congress.

Obamacare was going to insure 30 million who lacked insurance, reduce premiums by 2500.00 per year, reduce medical expenses, help balance the budget, you could keep your Doctor, you could keep your plan, Americans would flock to his system out of the goodness of their hearts...

you really believed that?


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Edited by luvdemshrooms (12/05/13 03:58 PM)


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #19232017 - 12/05/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No, seriously.

The man never held a job.
The man presides over one of the most secretive administrations in US history.
When he was a Senator the majority of his votes were "present".
He was anointed by the media.
His arrogance seems to know no bounds.
He's a bully.
He's a liar.
He's divisive.
He has an ego the size of Canada.
He doesn't communicate with Congress.

Obamacare was going to insure 30 million who lacked insurance, reduce premiums by 2500.00 per year, reduce medical expenses, help balance the budget, you could keep your Doctor, you could keep your plan, Americans would flock to his system out of the goodness of their hearts...

you really believed that?




So what you're saying is; he's a politician.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Patlal]
    #19232054 - 12/05/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No. I'm saying he's the type that not only gives politicians a bad name (as if they needed the help) but he set the bar to a whole new level of shitbaggery.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Patlal]
    #19232156 - 12/05/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Guys... be patient here... Its a government program we're talking about. Not only that, but it practacally affect 100% of Americans. You can't possibly expect it to work well in a couple of months...

Give it a year. Then shit will be good. You gotta be realistic. Bitching and whining won't make it go faster



1.  The employer insurance mandate has already been put off for a year.  This is going to effect a lot more people than are getting screwed now.
2.  They had 3 years + and over $500 million dollars to set it up and still blew it.  Andy would have done a better job for $50 thousand
3.  It still doesn't work.
4.  My health insurance is gone as 12/31/13




Alright, I'm not gonna defend this shit anymore.

What happens Jan 1st 2014 btw?




His new insurance policy is going to go into effect.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19232204 - 12/05/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Haven't found one yet and it won't be one I want


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19232215 - 12/05/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The man never held a job.




Pretty sure he had at least one job before he became president.

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The man presides over one of the most secretive administrations in US history.




So secretive that the right-wing is foaming at the mouth about how many leaks there are.

Quote:

When he was a Senator the majority of his votes were "present".



More right-wing lies?  129 times voting "present" in the state senate.  Sounds like a lot, right?  Well, maybe not, seeing as he voted on over 4,000 bills.  And in the US Senate?  He didn't abstain once.

Quote:

He was anointed by the media.




"The media" is a huge umbrella, by which he was not "anointed."  I'm not sure where you were during the Democratic primaries.

Quote:

His arrogance seems to know no bounds.




What does this even mean?

Quote:

He's a bully.




Who exactly does he "bully?"

Quote:

He's a liar.




Name me a president who was 100% truthful.

Quote:

He doesn't communicate with Congress.




When "Congress" declares their only goal is to make you a one-term president, and tries to derail any effort you make, yeah, I'm sure communication with them isn't a priority.  Also, when the POTUS tried to ever reach out, he was met with quite cold reception, as working with Obama would mean you would get primaried by the Koch-funded Tea Party.

You want to talk divisive?  Just look at your own political affiliation and your starlet politicians "no negotiation" policy. 

"This has been our posture from the beginning of this administration. And we intend to stick with it. If the administration wants cooperation, it will have to begin to move in our direction."

Good ol' Mitchy Mitch.  Who is now trying to run as fast as he can from the movement he was a leader of.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19232877 - 12/05/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Congress declared its only goal was to make him a one term President?  Did you know that the Senate is part of Congress?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19232887 - 12/05/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19232904 - 12/05/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Let's face it. Obama is the best president the US ever had.

It's a fact.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Patlal]
    #19232921 - 12/05/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Let's face it. Obama is the best president the US ever had.

It's a fact.




Did I say that?  I dislike lies and disingenuous statements.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19233273 - 12/05/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Just look at your own political affiliation




I don't have one despite the state I live in going out of their way to assign me one.

While you're often wrong you don't appear to be stupid. Why make such a stupid statement?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19233353 - 12/05/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Just look at your own political affiliation




I don't have one despite the state I live in going out of their way to assign me one.

While you're often wrong you don't appear to be stupid. Why make such a stupid statement?




Your posts say otherwise.  I mean, you can take a stroll through the Shroomery search function to find that your claim that you're political affiliation falls on a certain side of the spectrum. 

But, then again, don't address the fact that I refuted many of your ridiculous claims.  You might out yourself even more.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19233398 - 12/05/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

With your personality, I don't bother unless you say something dumber than usual. Like me having a political affiliation.

Feel free to think I have any political affiliation. I vote for the best candidate no matter what initial shows up after the name.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19233407 - 12/05/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Your posting history doesn't agree with your current statements.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19233437 - 12/05/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:laugh2:

Right. Try this one:

Really? So in addition to saying stupid things, you think you know my political views?

I doubt you do, but here they are:

Opposed to "entitlement" spending.

Atheist.

I think abortion is OK, except for very late term.

Don't care if gays wed or are in the military.

Don't care where mosques are built.

Don't think all practitioners of Islam are evil.

Think drugs should be all legal.

Think marriage is a dumb idea.

Think government should mind it's own business.

Despise most politicians. I find them to be self-serving hacks who pass laws based on what will get them re-elected, rather than basing them on what is best for the country.

I vote for who best conforms to my beliefs, rather than what party they belong to.

Base my opinion on what the laws do, rather than by who proposed or voted for them.

Have voted for Dems on a number of occasions.

I'd describe myself as a fiscal conservative, social liberal who just wants his politicians to leave me the fuck alone. Don't regulate my personal behavior until it affects others. Don't regulate others behavior until it affects me. Don't forcibly take what I have earned, to hand out to those who have not.



Really. Stop saying such stupid things. You'll be better for it.

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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19233448 - 12/05/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The search function doesn't lie.  You can go back to some of your Political Discussion posts from the early 00's and it is clear where your allegiance lies.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19233464 - 12/05/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:laugh2:

Right. Because no-one does anything different than they did in the early 00's.

Fuck dude, do you go out of your way to come up with such stupid statements?

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early 00's.

:lmafo::lmafo::lmafo::lmafo::lmafo::lmafo:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19233466 - 12/05/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No, but apparently you won't defend your own mediocre posts from getting debunked.

Typical righty fashion.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19233468 - 12/05/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:lmafo::lmafo::lmafo::lmafo::lmafo::lmafo:

Dude, stop beclowning yourself.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19233474 - 12/05/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You want to discuss something one day? Come across as "not an asshole".

Like I said, you don't seem stupid. Stop spewing stupid statements.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19233562 - 12/05/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i have yet to read luvdemshrooms claiming any sort of political affiliation whatsoever. Could you cite where he has?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: psyconaught]
    #19233578 - 12/05/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i have yet to read luvdemshrooms claiming any sort of political affiliation whatsoever. Could you cite where he has?




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php

You're not a fan of handouts, are you?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19233584 - 12/05/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if you make a statement its not my responsibility to prove it right.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: psyconaught]
    #19233604 - 12/05/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

A true libertarian wouldn't rely on anybody else for help.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19233629 - 12/05/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

>  A true libertarian wouldn't rely on anybody else for help.

False. 

A libertarian wouldn't expect somebody else to foot the bill.  A libertarian doctor wouldn't try to build a house on her own, but would rely on a carpenter for that task.  A libertarian carpenter wouldn't try to perform open heart surgery on himself, but would rely on a surgeon for that task.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Seuss]
    #19233634 - 12/05/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The libertarian in me would steal your money if you gave it to me for a service.


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    #19233754 - 12/05/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you mean the socialist in you.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: psyconaught]
    #19233783 - 12/05/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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you mean the socialist in you.




Just going to prove that you know nothing about socialism.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19234130 - 12/05/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

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you mean the socialist in you.




Just going to prove that you know nothing about socialism.



proving the same of yourself that you think libertarianism equates to support of thievery.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: psyconaught]
    #19234258 - 12/05/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think that describes what happenscto stste socialism quite accirstelycactually.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Shins]
    #19235549 - 12/06/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He doesn't belong to a party.  Is that hard to understand?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19237022 - 12/06/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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He doesn't belong to a party.  Is that hard to understand?




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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19237178 - 12/06/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yep


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19250422 - 12/09/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am already using it.

No pre-existing conditions that bar you from getting insurance-- check

Able to stay on parents insurance until 26--- check

A state run exchange that is not deliberately sabotaged by conservative governors-- check

Everybody bitches about the law, until you get sick. Then the fact that you have (cancer, diabetes, heart disease... etc) is unable to bar you from getting care by denying you coverage or charging extreme prices. IF your prices are really high its probably because you are (1) old as dirt or (2) live in a state where you have an obstructionist government that wants to see this law fail and does not care about its people. If you got dropped from your coverage, thats because your insurance sucks dick and would have gone bankrupt anyway if you had a serious problem.

So, go ahead talk shit about the law. Just know that young people like me will end up buying into the system to help you older guys out. That way your costs go down in the long run. Also, if you get sick and have to go to the ER, the hospital or local business does not get stuck with the bill because you don't have coverage (This is an external cost (externality) that ends up harming all of us, and costs all of us money because you don't have a way to pay). So for those conservatives that are so angry about "OUR" money being used for "POOR PEOPLE" just realize that the person you hate may be you for not getting insurance and going to the ER then passing the bill to all of us.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: rougescientist]
    #19250597 - 12/09/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I am already using it.

No pre-existing conditions that bar you from getting insurance-- check




I already had that
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Able to stay on parents insurance until 26--- check




Oh mommy thank you so much for giving me something that is almost guaranteed to be useless for me.
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A state run exchange that is not deliberately sabotaged by conservative governors-- check




No conservative governor can sabotage the federal health care site.  I live in NY that has a state site.  It is a fucking clusterfuck.  You have to give them all your information just to see what is offered and you get timed out constantly.  Do you know what has changed?  My health insurance company never asked me if I smoked before.  Now that is the only question.  Not if I'm a fat fuck, not if I'm a junkie, not if I ride motorcycles or sky dive.  No, just smoking.
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Everybody bitches about the law, until you get sick. Then the fact that you have (cancer, diabetes, heart disease... etc) is unable to bar you from getting care by denying you coverage or charging extreme prices. IF your prices are really high its probably because you are (1) old as dirt or (2) live in a state where you have an obstructionist government that wants to see this law fail and does not care about its people. If you got dropped from your coverage, thats because your insurance sucks dick and would have gone bankrupt anyway if you had a serious problem.




My insurance was excellent and expensive.  Now it is gone. 
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So, go ahead talk shit about the law. Just know that young people like me will end up buying into the system to help you older guys out. That way your costs go down in the long run. Also, if you get sick and have to go to the ER, the hospital or local business does not get stuck with the bill because you don't have coverage (This is an external cost (externality) that ends up harming all of us, and costs all of us money because you don't have a way to pay). So for those conservatives that are so angry about "OUR" money being used for "POOR PEOPLE" just realize that the person you hate may be you for not getting insurance and going to the ER then passing the bill to all of us.




Not for nothing sweetheart but you're on Mommy's plan so you don't pay anything.  I don't want you to pay anything for me.  But I don't want to pay for maternity insurance either.  Or any other idiot crap that is useless to me or my family.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19252060 - 12/09/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"Not for nothing sweetheart but you're on Mommy's plan so you don't pay anything.  I don't want you to pay anything for me.  But I don't want to pay for maternity insurance either.  Or any other idiot crap that is useless to me or my family."

Sorry that my parents have insurance and I use it, just using what I got. My coverage ends soon so I will be in the same boat as you are. Also you know you can call or go to the places that offer sign ups. Website is not the whole law.

We WILL end up paying for all the people that go to the ER with no coverage. That is a just a simple fact, I am sorry if you don't like it. When someone goes to the ER and then does not pay we all bear the cost in increasing premiums because the bill has to go somewhere. This is called an externality.
Here is a link so you understand the concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality

SO its really nice that you say I won't have to pay but in the end we all pay for the emergencies of those who don't have coverage.

You're argument on maternity coverage is fair. See you can have an educated argument without resorting to name calling.

But, one counter-argument to that is we all have a vested interest in the health of babies and mothers because of the cost in not covering them will in the end come back to bite us as an externalized cost. Kids that are not taken care of by their mothers will be surrendered to the state because of neglect and the state will bear the cost. Also injured children are not able to become productive members of society and thus, we incur the cost of loss (in long term health problems and/or loss of revenue from working and paying taxes).
The second counter-argument is that the plan was aimed at making plans non-discriminatory so that women and men pay the same price. They fixed this by making it a requirement for all pay. There were little programs offering this so the administration decided to make it a blanket requirement to enforce the policy. Again, you have a valid point and I disagree with this policy position.

Conservative governors definitely can obstruct the federal law. Just take a look at what Mississippi did! They also rejected the expansion of Medicare.
Here is a link to back up my claim:
http://www.bustle.com/articles/6227-gop-governors-reject-obamacares-medicaid-expansion-millions-to-stay-uninsured-as-result


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: rougescientist]
    #19255737 - 12/10/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Alright.

1.  No we do not all pay for emergency room visits by retards.  Only a small number of us pay for the bulk of that cost.
2.  That can easily be ameliorated by having clinics.  The health insurance as supplied by employers has created a mess.  The government is adopting it.  How clever to expand a failure into the general population.
3.  They cannot obstruct the federal law.  They can refuse to help it.  That is not the same thing.
4.  We do not all have a vested interest in babies.  The best method to insure that babies are not a burden to the state would be forced sterilization of loser cunts who can't keep their fucking legs closed long enough to suffocate the flies hovering about their putrid twats.  Are you sure you want to go there?


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19255774 - 12/10/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i just say instead of children being tax breaks they should be tax additives. Increase the tax rate for those who want to breed. That way only those who can actually afford to take care of a child can have them.


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Re: It's November 30th! Obamacare is ready........ [Re: psyconaught]
    #19256309 - 12/10/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How about we just get the government out of the equation entirely, neither encourage nor discourage.  Same goes for marriage.


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