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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #20711810 - 10/16/14 04:24 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

take a picture and have it identified in the identification forum first so you don't grow something you can have a reaction to.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20711856 - 10/16/14 04:34 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I'd have a reaction just from touching it? I've been picking random mushrooms and taking spore prints lately, just because it's neat.

I wasn't planning on eating anything, just wanted to inoculate agar.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20711929 - 10/16/14 04:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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And yes Pasty you are a fukin Leg End








that's a foot.
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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Edmunter]
    #20712016 - 10/16/14 05:05 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Also known as a leg end.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20712116 - 10/16/14 05:24 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

So I must suck at pressure cooking or something... I have a 23 qt Presto and I ALWAYS get insane condensation on my pp5s. I tried not wrapping them in foil once and half of them got ruined to water rolling over the agar.

I know I'm supposed to "bring the pressure up/down slowly" but HOW exactly do I do this. My method is put the lid on the PC, turn the burner on high and wait for steam to start coming out. Then I wait a few more minutes, add the pressure rocker and turn the heat to just below medium (4/10). PC 35 minutes, then turn the heat to 2/10 for 10-15 more minutes. At 45 minutes I turn the burner completely off and leave the PC on the burner overnight.

Does anyone see any major flaws in my technique?

PS, I've read you can wash and re-use these pp5 containers. Can I still do this if they have major contam growing or should I just toss them?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: magicMerlin]
    #20712126 - 10/16/14 05:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I'm a super noob at PCing myself, but I wouldn't call immediately going to boiling as "bringing the pressure up slowly."


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20712201 - 10/16/14 05:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Nope that's the end of the leg.  im mean I was only fishing with bacon....... caught me a plonker........


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: magicMerlin]
    #20712211 - 10/16/14 05:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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turn the burner on high and wait for steam to start coming out. Then I wait a few more minutes, add the pressure rocker and turn the heat to just below medium (4/10). PC 35 minutes, then turn the heat to 2/10 for 10-15 more minutes. At 45 minutes I turn the burner completely off and leave the PC on the burner overnight.




Put weight on, let pressure build a few psi, then turn halfway between high and med until it gets to 15 psi. It takes a little longer but I find it also seems to help with the container bottoms getting crushed in. However ts not as big a deal as the slow cool is I find those ones are worse for condensation. This also varies from stove to stove.

Another thing to try is to have a thinner plate. Thicker ones definitely can be an issue Some condensation is normal, and usually clears up. My environment is also dry as hell and fridges can also dry things out. Throw it in the fridge, still wrapped for 2-3 days.

Also do not toss these, if they have sporulated mold you can PC for 30 min and then empty them. I have some that I have probably used 25-30 times now.

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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Edmunter]
    #20712240 - 10/16/14 05:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Boiling is the starting poin of Pressure cooking, so bringing the pressure up slowly from that point is necessary for a slow rise in pressure.  To high and everything boils over and its messy.  Patience young jedi is a must....


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20712278 - 10/16/14 05:53 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Also known as a leg end.



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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #20712331 - 10/16/14 06:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

pasty,

Should we still be letting the steam boil for 10m before putting the weight on like normal so it can vent for a bit?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20712396 - 10/16/14 06:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Depends on the type of PC your using. My little POS PC is not designed to vent steam first but, for prestos, AA's etc, absolutely vent the steam.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20712611 - 10/16/14 07:03 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Also do not toss these, if they have sporulated mold you can PC for 30 min and then empty them. I have some that I have probably used 25-30 times now.



I just rinse them then wash them out with a soapy sponge.
My techniques are substantially more contam-proof than ones most growers on here are using, but even when that wasn't the case (and if it weren't now)  I wouldn't be nearly so concerned with sterilizing contaminated containers.  Ideally the sink you're cleaning your dishes in is in a different place than you're growing, too, so even if concerns were valid to a noteworthy degree I'd consider it moot.

Just clean them as you would any other :2cents:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #20712655 - 10/16/14 07:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah when your using your own prints you can go for hundreds of plates without seeing a satellite :awesomenod:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20713129 - 10/16/14 08:53 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I ruined the type of containers you use in here Pasty, cause like a fool I, well we won't go there, but I did something I should not have, and they collapsed some. I just figure I could use the screw top containers for lunches and stuff, cause I have no hole in the lids, I guess it pretty much boils down to me thinking I will use them for something else, but never have, LOL!


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #20713378 - 10/16/14 09:51 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I use mine for all kinds of things.  The pint screw-top ziplocs are so handy and useful.  One of my favorites to tote around in them is fruit smoothies!


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #20713410 - 10/16/14 10:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I use mine for all kinds of things.  The pint screw-top ziplocs are so handy and useful.  One of my favorites to tote around in them is fruit smoothies!




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Please don't ever ever change! :cheers:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #20713745 - 10/16/14 11:34 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I just noc'd up my agar. On my first one, the agar clogged my syringe and I pressed too hard to get it out. Must've squirted a CC in there, hehe. The next ones I re-sterilized to melt the agar and spray it out on the floor of my SAB before injecting. It made it possible to get a drop into the little holes I made.

1. Is it okay to wipe the off the condensation on the inside of the containers above the agar? I used a regular paper towel. Maybe I should've sterilized first?

2. Can I move these around throughout their growing period? I don't have an ideal place for them and might need to shift stuff around to get to other supplies.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20713990 - 10/17/14 01:15 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I just noc'd up my agar. On my first one, the agar clogged my syringe and I pressed too hard to get it out. Must've squirted a CC in there, hehe. The next ones I re-sterilized to melt the agar and spray it out on the floor of my SAB before injecting. It made it possible to get a drop into the little holes I made.

1. Is it okay to wipe the off the condensation on the inside of the containers above the agar? I used a regular paper towel. Maybe I should've sterilized first?

2. Can I move these around throughout their growing period? I don't have an ideal place for them and might need to shift stuff around to get to other supplies.




You can move them around.

Honestly dude, the condensation is not going to increase your contamination rates unless you're leaving your mini rounds open open for unusually long periods of time for airborne contams to stick to the drops of water when they touch.

But if airborn contams are getting into the round it's not going to matter if they stick to the water inside or not, they're there either way.

Regular poured petri's have condensation too.


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Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #20713993 - 10/17/14 01:15 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, though condensation may not increase your contamination rates KEEPING THE ROUND OPEN LONG ENOUGH TO WIPE A CONTAM-COVERED PAPER TOWEL OVER THEM WILL!

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Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

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EZEKIEL 23:20


Edited by elasticaltiger (10/17/14 01:16 AM)


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