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tryptkaloids
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Dactylium]
#25199646 - 05/12/18 03:16 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Into no pour containers? Why the extra step?
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We're talking about pouring through a lid, with a funnel, into a no-pour tek container that you cannot fuck up by pouring with a pot, mason jar, liquor bottle, media container - the list goes on.
I'm fucked up right now and it still doesn't make sense, so...
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: plurfekt]
#25205384 - 05/15/18 11:43 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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So leave paper towel on lid permanently?...I took it off when I went in sab...
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Either way is fine, but it's nice for taking notes
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voodoochild1000 said: So leave paper towel on lid permanently?...I took it off when I went in sab...
Mine are usually saturated so I remove them to allow the micropore tape on the lids to dry faster in the SAB.
However, one could just wait longer for them to dry and use them for notes. Personally I don't mind switching out a couple 1" pieces of micropore tape on each lid so I can keep relabeling them, all about where you are trying to cut seconds and cut pennies.
Either should work fine.
Also, I don't bother waiting for a slow decompression as I see the same amount of condensation either way, so I just wait 20 minutes after it loses pressure and set the plates in the SAB before they can solidify, allowing uniform/level solids every time. My preference.
Soon I will be using some PP5 containers I found "salad dressing" containers at a local store for a test run. Also going to try the micropore tape on the side of the mini-rounds and see which works best.
Edited by plurfekt (05/15/18 01:31 PM)
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: plurfekt]
#25205755 - 05/15/18 03:06 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why are they wet? They shouldn't be.
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tryptkaloids said: Why are they wet? They shouldn't be.
Beats me, man. Always turn out like that, pressure slow or pressure fast, foil on tight or foil on fast.
Either way they work, so, kinda goes to show how fool proof this TEK is yet again.
My SFD's do not get wet using the paper towel method. I love that. Lol.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: plurfekt]
#25206920 - 05/16/18 04:42 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did a few different things that I started trying all at once and it helped a lot. I let the plates sit and solidify after I pour them. Once they've cooled, I take a paper towel and wipe off the condensation inside the rim. Then I put them in the pc and run it using only two quarts of water. Lastly, I take them out as soon as it hits zero and give them a little swirl to mix the agar after cooking. I still get condensation, but I'm not transferring into a lake anymore.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: boom boom]
#25206932 - 05/16/18 05:10 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's useless to wipe anything before the cycle, the agar in the plates gets at 250 degrees in the PC.
It may sound counter-intuitive but I've always found taking the plates out PC when they're still hot helps with condensation, not that I mind condensation, I do it because I like the agar to set as level as possible on the kitchen counter.
This is a plate already solidified that was taken out of the PC hot 20 minutes before, I can live with that and it dissipates fast.

Taking them hot out of the PC will surely help in drying any moisture on the paper towels or filters, although I can't remember having those issues when I still used mini-rounds as per the tek and left them in the PC overnight.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
#25206956 - 05/16/18 05:29 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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My reasoning was that if I just closed the lid with that condensation in there, that same water would be in there after the cycle. If I wiped it out, at least that water would be removed. Condensation probably doesn't work like that but I was running out of ideas to combat standing water.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: boom boom]
#25206958 - 05/16/18 05:33 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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to combat condensation can one just pop the plates in a food dehydrator for a couple of hours?
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: pablokabute]
#25206971 - 05/16/18 05:51 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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pablokabute said: to combat condensation can one just pop the plates in a food dehydrator for a couple of hours?
An awesome way to ruin the moisture content and guess where all that water is going to go... exactly, more condensation. 
Seriously, condensation is not an issue, just let it be, by the time myc starts to grow you'll usually have very little condensation or none at all. Even in the worst case scenario that you had some horrendous condensation that won't quit, it still isn't an issue. You only really need to see the culture clearly when you take a wedge.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
#25207671 - 05/16/18 11:34 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Josex said: Seriously, condensation is not an issue, just let it be, by the time myc starts to grow you'll usually have very little condensation or none at all. Even in the worst case scenario that you had some horrendous condensation that won't quit, it still isn't an issue. You only really need to see the culture clearly when you take a wedge.

The only reason to even switch to petri's is better visibility/slightly better storage space/etc. That's all the condensation effects, and it goes away with colonization - all of mine get pretty bad condensation and all of them have zero condensation by the time I use them.
Considering it's an improvised petri dish, it's a harmless hassle and nothing to fret about, all it is for me is encouragement to start pouring because agar is way easy now that I'm doing it.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: plurfekt]
#25207994 - 05/16/18 01:20 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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came across this site: https://freundcontainer.com/28027a-4-oz-clear-ps-plastic-straight-sided-jars-short/?promo=shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjwre_XBRDVARIsAPf7zZhtzOGnQPNYVKqSGs8TcAdkOwekdSeDlpnAalJJma3Ft1wrnR9r9IkaAoAcEALw_wcB
Not bad. I will be looking at this for sure! Seems to have ALL TYPES of stuff
Definitely a lot of options to try and find something that might suit you if you aren't a fan of the glad mini rounds
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"The name has to do with the way the plastic responds to heat. Thermoplastic materials become fully liquid at their melting point (210-249 degrees Celsius in the case of Polystyrene), but they begin to flow at their glass transition point (100 degress Celsius for PS)."
so. polystyrene begins to flow at 100 c which is 212 f. doesn't sound good.
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verum subsequentis said: "The name has to do with the way the plastic responds to heat. Thermoplastic materials become fully liquid at their melting point (210-249 degrees Celsius in the case of Polystyrene), but they begin to flow at their glass transition point (100 degress Celsius for PS)."
so. polystyrene begins to flow at 100 c which is 212 f. doesn't sound good.
See, cool... I was looking for the PS melting point. They do have some PP/PP jars... In retrospect, perhaps it's not the greatest site... LOL
Carry on fellow pasty platers
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
#25208070 - 05/16/18 01:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Josex said: It may sound counter-intuitive but I've always found taking the plates out PC when they're still hot helps with condensation
My experience tells me the opposite
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Cool to each their own, I didn't photoshop the pic or anything.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
#25208202 - 05/16/18 02:36 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not saying you did. I just get the least when I let the pc cool before opening it
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: tryptkaloids] 1
#25208208 - 05/16/18 02:38 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I do things different though.
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