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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22737647 - 01/04/16 10:29 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

Believe me, if i were living in the USA i would already had my no pour containers, but i don't live there and is hard to find and expensive shipping to mexico from the US.

I found a deal 81$ for 81 16oz ziploc containers. That's the best deal i can't get. Glad mini rounds are not available for international shipping anywhere, and the other options are expensive. So that's my only option, but now i have to spend 81$. Can't get less than 81 containers or they'll charge me the free shipping which is like 160$ to mexico.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22737652 - 01/04/16 10:31 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

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What's wrong with them being 16oz?  Obviously I've had no problem whatsoever using them for agar.  But the 16oz, combined with the screw-top lid style, means that your investment has countless potential uses, even just within mycology stuff alone.  I'm not gonna pretend it's your least expensive option, you'll spend $50 on that many containers.  But it will most definitely, without a doubt, by far be your best investment.
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Yes Violet i know you use them in your new tek that's why im looking something like that with the twist lock. The only two options is the 16oz ziploc ones and the 9.5 glad ones. Both are good but i can fit more in my Sterilizer with the glad ones.



So what you don't like is that you can't fit as many in the cooker at a time?
I don't think that's a really big problem.  Especially with a cooker a ginormous as yours (I just use an AA910 usually that fits 6, though sometimes I use an old standby that fits 8).

Something you might be interested in is my little trick for sterilizing inter-stacked containers, unstacking and lidding them in one's clean workspace.  Check out my culture tech thread to see that trick.  Use at your own "risk" :P

Even outside that, the main thing is that the wide variety of uses makes the containers far more worthwhile.  Having to do another run or so to get as many dishes sterilized doesn't come close to being able to multi-purpose the container more than anything else that is manufactured.

Again, just my 2¢!




Yeah those 16oz containers can be used for anything really lol. Spawn, like Mudafuka bottles, agar. Fak double poss.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #22737693 - 01/04/16 10:39 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

Just curious, why would you want to cook no-pour dishes when you can just pour dozens of dishes in front of your flow hood?

Edit: Assuming because the no-pours are reusable?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #22737699 - 01/04/16 10:41 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

It's not a bad deal.  If I were to buy 81 containers, it wouldn't be much less for me, once adding my local taxes.  Too bad that you can't buy fewer.  But if you were to follow my culture tech, for instance, and/or use V-tek or do half-size bottles of bulk/grain mix or BRF/verm, then you'd be very happy to use all of them.
They're also amazing for taking high-quality aseptic spore prints, especially from first-flush invitro grows where they're practically perfect.
With that minimum cost it's such an investment for you, though, that don't let me sway your decision more than inputting those true statements.  Do what's best for you!


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #22737701 - 01/04/16 10:41 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

I like the short screw tops for growing things like pans or the odd vtek. I find them too big for agar though.  I like to make transfers 20 at a time. I can't fit that many screw tops in my SAB or PC.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: CapMeh]
    #22737716 - 01/04/16 10:45 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

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Just curious, why would you want to cook no-pour dishes when you can just pour dozens of dishes in front of your flow hood?

Edit: Assuming because the no-pours are reusable?



It cost about $1.50-$2 a plate to get petri dishes shipped to Canada. Pop top PP5s cost about 50 cents and can be used 100s of times.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: CapMeh]
    #22737718 - 01/04/16 10:45 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

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Just curious, why would you want to cook no-pour dishes when you can just pour dozens of dishes in front of your flow hood?




My flow hood filter is fucked. I leave accidentally a quart jar of dry grain inside the flow hood room for two months i was on vacations. I came back and i had bug excrement all over the surfaces of the room including the flow hood and inside in the laminar sheets i saw bugs shitting there.

I tried to clean it with lysol and all sort of things. My success rate when pouring in the flowhood is like 70%. My success pouring in the SAB is 99%. But anyway, I want reusable containers because in fucking mexico petri dishes and parafilm are ridiculously expensive.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet]
    #22738457 - 01/05/16 05:22 AM (8 years, 26 days ago)

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It's not a bad deal.  If I were to buy 81 containers, it wouldn't be much less for me, once adding my local taxes.  Too bad that you can't buy fewer.  But if you were to follow my culture tech, for instance, and/or use V-tek or do half-size bottles of bulk/grain mix or BRF/verm, then you'd be very happy to use all of them.
They're also amazing for taking high-quality aseptic spore prints, especially from first-flush invitro grows where they're practically perfect.
With that minimum cost it's such an investment for you, though, that don't let me sway your decision more than inputting those true statements.  Do what's best for you!





shameless self promotion in someone elses thread..  :nono:

all your opinion cus I disagree wholeheartedly about your methods :smirk:

this isnt a contest to get more people to use your teks or grow like a scared noob one mushroom at a time.  :facepalm:

you got a tag for being helpful not popular, stop with the gloating and promoting already :wow:

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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: 13shrooms]
    #22739103 - 01/05/16 10:26 AM (8 years, 26 days ago)

Violet, I do respect all the work you have done, your ziplock agar tek is what gave me the balls to get into agar. I must say that I found it trough searching agar teks tho.. And I do agree with 13shrooms that it comes off as self promotion and boasting. Trying to stay friendly here, just another perspective!


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22739288 - 01/05/16 11:20 AM (8 years, 26 days ago)

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I want to have at least 50 pp5 containers for agar work but i don't know which to buy... I just know i love the twist n loc' containers of Ziploc. I don't like the glad mini rounds lid mechanism to open it. I can fit 18 16oztwist n loc' containers in my AA 75X. Nice visibility too.  The only problem is 16 oz.. There is another container from glad that is 9.5oz with the lock mechanism.  i want that one but too expensive.

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Stop worrying about the size and just fucking grow in it. I have literally seen everything pop up on this site from glasses to whiskey bottles to minirounds to actual bone-fide petri dishes.

What matters is sterility, not the vessel.  Cultivate in anything you can find to hold agar sterile.

Having the perfect vessel should never hold anyone back from growing mushrooms. Technique needs to stop being about the vessel and develop into more universal principles.



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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22739318 - 01/05/16 11:28 AM (8 years, 26 days ago)

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I want to have at least 50 pp5 containers for agar work but i don't know which to buy... I just know i love the twist n loc' containers of Ziploc. I don't like the glad mini rounds lid mechanism to open it. I can fit 18 16oztwist n loc' containers in my AA 75X. Nice visibility too.  The only problem is 16 oz.. There is another container from glad that is 9.5oz with the lock mechanism.  i want that one but too expensive.

Glad Food Storage Containers, LockWare Extra Small, 9.5 Ounce, 3 Coun





Stop worrying about the size and just fucking grow in it. I have literally seen everything pop up on this site from glasses to whiskey bottles to minirounds to actual bone-fide petri dishes.

What matters is sterility, not the vessel.  Cultivate in anything you can find to hold agar sterile.

Having the perfect vessel should never hold anyone back from growing mushrooms. Technique needs to stop being about the vessel and develop into more universal principles.



:whathesaid:




Yeah man but he doesn't take into account that i live in a shit hole and can't find pp5 mini containers anywhere nearby so I have to order what is available in Amazon US and pay shipping and import fees to Mexico. If I was living in the US life would be pink, I would just go to Walmart and buy whatever i want. The mexican walmart doesn't have pp5 containers and i really can't find them in other stores.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #22739326 - 01/05/16 11:31 AM (8 years, 26 days ago)

I know how it is down there,

I have a friend down there that does mycology in the dumbest bottles I've ever seen but it's literally all he can get. Europe is like that too in some places. America forgets how good we have it IMO :shrug:

Even canadians pay crazy export fees.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: taGyo]
    #22739340 - 01/05/16 11:34 AM (8 years, 26 days ago)

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I know how it is down there,

I have a friend down there that does mycology in the dumbest bottles I've ever seen but it's literally all he can get. Europe is like that too in some places. America forgets how good we have it IMO :shrug:

Even canadians pay crazy export fees.




Lol but at least canadians do have glad mini rounds everywhere across Canada in every dollar store. Or ziploc containers or whatever lol.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: 13shrooms] * 2
    #22739515 - 01/05/16 12:24 PM (8 years, 25 days ago)

So, Alien, do you feel like I'm committing shameless self-promotion?  Because I felt like I was affirming what appears to be your best (almost only) choice by elaborating on how good of an investment you would be making.  Does that mean I'm gloating to you?  Boasting?

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It's not a bad deal.  If I were to buy 81 containers, it wouldn't be much less for me, once adding my local taxes.  Too bad that you can't buy fewer.  But if you were to follow my culture tech, for instance, and/or use V-tek or do half-size bottles of bulk/grain mix or BRF/verm, then you'd be very happy to use all of them.
They're also amazing for taking high-quality aseptic spore prints, especially from first-flush invitro grows where they're practically perfect.
With that minimum cost it's such an investment for you, though, that don't let me sway your decision more than inputting those true statements.  Do what's best for you!



shameless self promotion in someone elses thread..  :nono:

all your opinion cus I disagree wholeheartedly about your methods :smirk:

this isnt a contest to get more people to use your teks or grow like a scared noob one mushroom at a time.  :facepalm:

you got a tag for being helpful not popular, stop with the gloating and promoting already :wow:

:blah:



Dude, what the hell ever.  Is this the only kind of post you make these days?  Detracting posts that don't make any sense or are outdated?

I genuinely think these containers are great.  He's asking about them already, and I gave a few examples as to other uses he could do with them.

Saying that they're perfect for taking sterile spore prints is not self-promotion, that's retarded.  It's TRUE.  It's a statement about their function.  We all know that invitro fruits are as good as "sterile" and prints taken from in this manner are a sure thing.
That's not self-promotion, it's just grow knowledge.
Since when did grow knowledge become "self promotion"?  If that's the case, then it's true for anyone.

Saying that they can be used for methods that I also use is not self-promotion, that's retarded.  It's TRUE.  It's a statement about their potential functions.  I also mentioned methods that aren't "mine" (which, FOR SOME BIASED REASON, you didn't feel the need to highlight and ridicule? What's with that, huh?).

You can "disagree whole-heartedly with my methods" but that doesn't mean that me talking about them is making "a contest to get more people to use my teks".  And where are you getting that bullshit, "or grow like a scared noob one mushroom at a time"?  Say that about bottle tek, or even PF Tek for that matter, why don't you?  You won't, because you're not right or smart, you're just a biased hater.

I'm giving the dude suggestions for how to use those containers that I am aware of.
Would you have me give him suggestions that I am somehow UNaware of?  Would you have me make up potential uses for them just so that I don't refer to things that I, myself, do with them?

And how is ANY of that "boasting"?  Do you know the definition of that word?  Or are you just trolling.  Because all you're doing is flaming :rules:

That's stupid.  Your whole post, the attacking & trolling & belittling demeanor you created it from, and especially your stupid emojis punctuating every single sentence, it's all stupid.

There are other growers on this forum (smarter, better growers, more intelligent than you) that also use these containers and often use these methods.  People who ARE TCs, or who at least deserve it more than you (namely Muda), who would get behind my statements about these containers' uses.

Pasty himself will tell you he uses these containers fairly often, and can get behind these statements about their uses.  You're only spewing this shit because it's me. Try contributing something worth a damn instead of half of your posts being to belittle other people.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Violet] * 1
    #22739647 - 01/05/16 12:55 PM (8 years, 25 days ago)

:laugh2:

apparently you dont comprehend english very well either, I didnt knock on the containers or the advice you gave, just the shameless self promoting you do since you have gotten the TC tag.  :smirk:

your ego is :header:

I didnt flame or even call you names like you just did me and Im stupid right.  :wow:

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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: 13shrooms] * 1
    #22739664 - 01/05/16 12:59 PM (8 years, 25 days ago)

To the ppl that have problems on the forums. Ask yourself is it isolated or do I have problems with others ofte ? Do I have problems and conflicts with a few people or just a couple? Do ppl treat me differently or the same as everyone else. Then do some introspection.

I just put the few ppl that bother me on ignore.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22741196 - 01/05/16 06:55 PM (8 years, 25 days ago)

Mr. Alien, the link you posted just links to this thread.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22742155 - 01/05/16 10:44 PM (8 years, 25 days ago)

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To the ppl that have problems on the forums. Ask yourself is it isolated or do I have problems with others ofte ? Do I have problems and conflicts with a few people or just a couple? Do ppl treat me differently or the same as everyone else. Then do some introspection.

I just put the few ppl that bother me on ignore.




How wise, and yet the Bodhisattva said it. So why should I expect otherwise :wink:
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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Grey]
    #22742413 - 01/06/16 12:16 AM (8 years, 25 days ago)

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Mr. Alien, the link you posted just links to this thread.




this is the link. http://www.amazon.com/Glad-Storage-Containers-LockWare-Extra/dp/B008VSX3O8/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452064382&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Glad+Food+Storage+Containers%2C+LockWare+Extra+Small%2C+9.5+Ounce%2C+3+Coun

Is 6.5 Oz smaller than the ziploc 16 Quart ones. those would be ideal for me but they are fucking expensive and not available international shipping for me.


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