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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Kizzle]
    #19911825 - 04/28/14 01:31 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Only thing I don't like about these is it's hard to get a clear view of the inside without opening them. I was thinking about cutting a circle in the lid and attaching a polycarbonate circle (from theft proof packaging) with silicone or tape in it's place.



never heard of that material but if its very visible and encourages any residual condensation to slide off of it i'm a huge fan! that's the main reason i like working with the larger, more transparent zip rounds.

i really need to have good visibility right now because i have a lot to learn with agar. where can i find that material? a post office or something?

and as far as sealing it to the round i'd use RTV silicone, but that's the avoid-equipment maintenance-for-as-long-as-possible part of me talking again. i'm 99% sure i saw some clear RTV silicone for like $1.50 more than the regular red shit i have, and this would probably work best in case it gets a little messy.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MushroomWizard420]
    #19911860 - 04/28/14 01:39 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Visibility is definitely an issue with no pour agar. That's why I only use it for germinating spores and starting clones. I prefer to use pre sterilised dishes for later transfers and isolation.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19911995 - 04/28/14 02:07 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

:imwithstupid: :lol:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19912033 - 04/28/14 02:16 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

:whereismiddleman::lol:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19912048 - 04/28/14 02:18 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Visibility is definitely an issue with no pour agar. That's why I only use it for germinating spores and starting clones. I prefer to use pre sterilised dishes for later transfers and isolation.



i'll do that as soon as my kidney sells. right now i'm waiting on my 22 quart pc to come thru so i'm broke as a joke right now.

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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19912164 - 04/28/14 02:41 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

They actually make food containers out of it too but I've never seen any in a store.


Polycarbonate petri dishes

It's as clear as polystyrene but the melting is much higher, around 300F.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Kizzle]
    #19912203 - 04/28/14 02:47 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

does this mean you can use these for "no pour"?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: tombosley8]
    #19912217 - 04/28/14 02:50 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't try no pour in a petri even if you could PC it. They are just to shallow and would likely boil over making a huge mess. I have found PC able petris but they are super expensive.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19912303 - 04/28/14 03:07 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Melting point and glass point are way different. PP5 doesn't have a high melt temp but its glass temp is one of the few for plastics that's above PC temp so it stays rigid


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: tombosley8]
    #19912317 - 04/28/14 03:10 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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does this mean you can use these for "no pour"?



You should be able to.

IMO no pour dishes are a waste of PC space. I PC the bottle of agar and steam sterilize the dishes at the same time so I can use the rest of the PC space for spawn.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Kizzle]
    #19912425 - 04/28/14 03:31 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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does this mean you can use these for "no pour"?



You should be able to.

IMO no pour dishes are a waste of PC space. I PC the bottle of agar and steam sterilize the dishes at the same time so I can use the rest of the PC space for spawn.



you need more pc's:shakepepsi:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: cronicr]
    #19912493 - 04/28/14 03:49 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I just lost one to a fire not too long ago. I learned my lesson though; Never forget to clean out grease under the burners :lol:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19913022 - 04/28/14 05:47 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Melting point and glass point are way different. PP5 doesn't have a high melt temp but its glass temp is one of the few for plastics that's above PC temp so it stays rigid




Would have rated you for this little gem if I hadn't already done it.  Great info, man!  :raisemyglass:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Kizzle]
    #19913443 - 04/28/14 07:12 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Holy shit, sounds as if you got lucky , as in no cops? And no house burnt down?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19913687 - 04/28/14 08:10 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Some good discussion here. I would like to add my perspective on a few of them

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MudaFuka said:
Visibility is definitely an issue with no pour agar. That's why I only use it for germinating spores and starting clones. I prefer to use pre sterilised dishes for later transfers and isolation.




I agree that visibility can be an issue. The fact that you need to look through the sides is a tricky one. But when you color the agar, the contams really stand out. Fact is I do this with my pour agar as well. Condensation can also be an issue but, its not a problem if you bring the pressure up slow, and cool the PC even slower. The mini rounds are a lot easier to see through the sides than every jar and other container I have tried. Personally I almost never have more condensation in one of these than I do in a pour petri.



There is zero condensation in these and it is quite easy to see what is going on. As for identifying sectors, I do it the same as I would with a pour petri, look at the bottom while having the light come from behind. They show up just as easy.

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IMO no pour dishes are a waste of PC space. I PC the bottle of agar and steam sterilize the dishes at the same time so I can use the rest of the PC space for spawn.




I would never PC my agar or LC media as long as I would grain spawn, especially if there is dextrose or Karo or honey in the mix. I do recognize that peoples preferences are just that and if you prefer pour agar, then I would never try to dissuade anyone from one or the other. The point is that your using agar. Period.

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Melting point and glass point are way different. PP5 doesn't have a high melt temp but its glass temp is one of the few for plastics that's above PC temp so it stays rigid




Great stuff bodhi :thumbup:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19913841 - 04/28/14 08:39 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I've used food coloring since I first saw this tek and it definitely helps.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19913874 - 04/28/14 08:46 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

how much food coloring?


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: tombosley8]
    #19913892 - 04/28/14 08:50 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

A few drops. Just enough to change the color of your agar.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19914031 - 04/28/14 09:17 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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I've used food coloring since I first saw this tek and it definitely helps.



:awesomenod:

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A few drops. Just enough to change the color of your agar.



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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19914654 - 04/28/14 11:22 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

i just picked up this large shallow glass ziploc container from dillon's and i wanted to know if its safe to pc it. all it says about the plastic is that its microwave safe, don't use directly on stovetop, dishwasher top rack, BPA-free, etc. obviously i'd have to put some holes in and attach a filter, but i wanted to make sure it's pc-safe before i put holes in the lid so i can return it if it's not usable. its called "ziploc versaglass"


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