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Pastywhyte
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: E.FTS]
#21379719 - 03/08/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Use less agar mix per round if its not clearing up. Condensation is not really a big issue, I get more condensation with my pour agar plates.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: insanemike]
#21379733 - 03/08/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: you mix the fully colonized grains with bulk sub f.ex. bucket tek'ed coir+verm into a monotub or tray. grains dont do well at all being fruited as a cake.
Grain blocks can do fairly well if willing to put in the effort but for the long term it's just not worth it. I was able to get 28 dry grams off of two flushes with a wbs block and a SGFC. You have to mist and fan between 5 and 8 times a day but it is possible to get decent results.
If you used a quart of grain to make that brick I would say that's just barely acceptable.
I understand that it is barely acceptable when comparing it to bulk. But if you compare it to a pf cake, it yields alot more and takes alot less time to go from inoculation to harvest. Like I said, it can do fairly well if you are willling to put in the effort.
I dunno these two cakes alone put out close to an oz over the first two flushes.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21379751 - 03/08/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Use less agar mix per round if its not clearing up. Condensation is not really a big issue, I get more condensation with my pour agar plates.
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insanemike

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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21379775 - 03/08/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are we talking isolates, clones, or ms? I was referring to ms and if you're talking isolates, we're on 2 different playing fields, pasty.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: insanemike]
#21379792 - 03/08/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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insanemike said: Are we talking isolates, clones, or ms? I was referring to ms and if you're talking isolates, we're on 2 different playing fields pasty.
That was a clone but realisticly I have seen lots of cakes done with ms here on the boards that did even better. Sure ms is more of a crapshoot but IMO any well domesticated variety will hold its own on cakes 3/4 of the time.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21379892 - 03/08/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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People gonna do what works for them and that's cool. Do what works. But if your not pulling at least an oz per quart of spawn your BE is crap and should be considered to be not working. Cakes at their best actually deliver better BE than most bulk but are more finicky with fruiting conditions and most people try to rush them which leads to poor results. Cased grain grows can work with bottom watering but are in my book as finicky as cakes. I know some have had great success with straight grain. I myself have not.
Moral is grow the way you want but if your not seeing a minimum of a dry oz per quart of grain spawn your working to hard for too little. At that point its not easier. My best cultures can put out two dry oz per quart first flush. Thats when spawned to coir. Easy stuff.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21379916 - 03/08/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't have pictures of the mushrooms as they matured but none the less count the pins on this first flush.

It was a quart and got an ounce off the first two flushes. I would have gotten more than that but I didn't flush any more than that.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21379933 - 03/08/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Life's to short to be cranky pasty. I agree though. If you get less than an oz per quart then your most likely wasting your own time and resources. Even if you are content with your results. That just seems mediocre in my book.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: insanemike]
#21379948 - 03/08/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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On a side note, pastys sig is headbangin and rockin the fuck out lolol
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: E.FTS]
#21380008 - 03/08/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21379861
Uploaded this for help. My forum for ideal engine. Using your tek. Any comments ideas criticism helps.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: E.FTS]
#21380068 - 03/08/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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This was a single quart spawned to 3 quarts coir verm. Final weight after first flush was 46 grams. It was a clone.

This was 2 quarts spawned to 3 quarts coir verm. Final first flush weight was just under 3 oz. It was ms.

Not to be a cranky dick but I hate to see people short themselves cause it seemed easy.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21380083 - 03/08/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Organic_Magic said: Life's to short to be cranky pasty. I agree though. If you get less than an oz per quart then your most likely wasting your own time and resources. Even if you are content with your results. That just seems mediocre in my book. 
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Pastywhyte said: This was a single quart spawned to 3 quarts coir verm. Final weight after first flush was 46 grams. It was a clone.

This was 2 quarts spawned to 3 quarts coir verm. Final first flush weight was just under 3 oz. It was ms.

Not to be a cranky dick but I hate to see people short themselves cause it seemed easy.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: insanemike]
#21380114 - 03/08/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn that's an incredible canopy. For a split second I thought those were pans. I started drooling.
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Organic_Magic said: Damn that's an incredible canopy. For a split second I thought those were pans. I started drooling. 

Ive seen the first picture a thousand times, I never saw the half harvested one until now. They do look like pans with the full canopy.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: E.FTS]
#21381416 - 03/09/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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They are a little special to me, that's why I like that shot. But I still don't think I posted it 1000 times
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21381599 - 03/09/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pasty, Just wanted to give a quick update. I made a batch of plates per your tek. Did the hour, dropped down on the syrup. They look good and no liquid streaming off the top layer like I had with the other ones.
Thanks again. Now I just need to do some agar work.
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21381895 - 03/09/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: They are a little special to me, that's why I like that shot. But I still don't think I posted it 1000 times 
Maybe ive just looked at it a 1000 times hahaha
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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21393460 - 03/11/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here is a second transfer using the no-pour. The jar is almost 4 days old.
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What can i use instead of potato flakes?
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If im sterilizing grains can I put the glads in with them to save time?
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