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Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner
#19207883 - 11/30/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey so I have been interested in experiencing nitrous oxide. I have read most of the info on Erowid, drugs-forum and bluelight in an effort to educate myself but I still have some questions unanswered.
Firstly, although numerous posts scattered across the web describe the materials needed to use this drug via the "balloon method" (namely n2o charges, balloons and a whipped cream dispenser/cracker, all of which I purchased yesterday), no one has explicitly described the process step by step.
I realize the process differs from person to person depending on the equipment they are using but certainly there is a general consensus on how to perform the Balloon Method?
I also read in various places that nitrous is best experienced in combination with other substances. Anyone care to elaborate on this claim? Would alcohol mix well with nitrous? I was already planning on smoking some bowls before nozzing but I am really curious about the alcohol/n2o combo. And what about mixing dissociatives? Like a line of K before hitting the nos.
Thanks for any and all replies
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: draumur]
#19207904 - 11/30/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pop a canister in the craker and fill the ballon. Take hits of the ballon. I use the kraker directly though, however this is bad for the lungs. You get the biggest hit though. Ive done it rolling and drinking at a rager. Let me tell you, i was fucked up!! Memorable night though. First time i did dmt that night too. I love whip its. I love how everything just zooms out right when you exhale and everything just feels so strange. You hear wawawawawawa. Haha. Wish i had some
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#19208122 - 11/30/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This chemical is amazing when added to psychedelics. Like Brain candy sir.
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#19208486 - 11/30/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Go easy with it. It can lose its magic very quickly for some people. Its also very fiendish, in that once you do one, all you'll want to do is sit there and suck down balloons all night(they call it hippy crack for a reason) its easy to go through boxes of chargers in a night. Also, please don't inhale straight from the cracker. Use a balloon.. that being said, nitrous is awesome as long as you don't abuse it. Especially while tripping.
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: draumur]
#19209207 - 11/30/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My 2 cents....
Nitrous by itself, or with alcohol, really isn't anything all that spectacular. Some brief mild euphoria, mildly dissociated, perhaps some very mild visual distortions, and some auditory "hallucinations" at the most. If it's offered, sure I'll take an inhalation, but otherwise the only time I'll do nitrous is in combination with a psychedelic or mdma. By it self, or with alcohol, or with cannabis, isn't worth doing and is a waste in my opinion. But to each their own. If you've never done it before, it can be interesting and worth it to try it by itself, but really it's best to try while already on a psychedelic or mdma.
Don't sit there and huff on the balloon, breathing in and out repeatedly...Simply inhale some nitrous, hold it in, exhale and get a breathe of fresh air between inhalations, then inhale some more. Sitting there huffing on a balloon, suffocating yourself until your lips turn blue is not the way to do it.
Eh...and yea, try to keep it in moderation. The most I'll ever do within a day or through out a "trip" is a box to the dome (25 chargers). Which IMO isn't all that much, some people do way way more than that, but I try not to get carried away with the stuff and I like to save each "balloon" for a "special" moment when tripping rather than just doing a bunch back to back.
Like GreenArrow mentioned, this stuff has incredible synergy with psychedelics. Particularly LSD, but goes well with all the classics. I've had a few "peak experiences" from inhaling nitrous while on L, on par with some of my DMT experiences, much different but just as profound and intense. The stuff really thows me out there for a while.
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: openmind]
#19209248 - 11/30/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nitrous discussion is not allowed in this forum.
BUT, I am gonna let this slide.
Hippie Crack only lasts a few seconds, it is kinda' something people do when tripping. Let's see how this goes. I may lock it eventually.
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: Rose]
#19209422 - 11/30/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alcohol/nitrous is a good combo as long as you don't drink too much. And weed/nitrous is amazing
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: Melkor]
#19209538 - 11/30/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just discovered how cheap it is. Might have to get a box for when I try Lucy...
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: draumur]
#19209576 - 11/30/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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draumur said:I also read in various places that nitrous is best experienced in combination with other substances. Anyone care to elaborate on this claim? Would alcohol mix well with nitrous? I was already planning on smoking some bowls before nozzing but I am really curious about the alcohol/n2o combo. And what about mixing dissociatives? Like a line of K before hitting the nos.
At the risk of repeating what you may already know: Nitrous oxide is a very short-acting, relatively mild dissociative and depressant. So mixing it with other dissociatives (such as K) or depressants (such as alcohol) is unlikely to create a novel experience. It mixes well enough with ganja, but IME it synergizes particularly well with hallucinogens. Adding a dissociative component to your hallucinogenic experience can create sensations and experiences previously unimaginable, (of course dependent upon the strength and balance of the mixture.)
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: Land_Crab]
#19209915 - 11/30/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every time I've done nitrous on psychedelics it increases the visuals by many times. It is almost like looking through a kaleidoscope
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: draumur]
#19209999 - 11/30/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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draumur said: Firstly, although numerous posts scattered across the web describe the materials needed to use this drug via the "balloon method" (namely n2o charges, balloons and a whipped cream dispenser/cracker, all of which I purchased yesterday), no one has explicitly described the process step by step.
I realize the process differs from person to person depending on the equipment they are using but certainly there is a general consensus on how to perform the Balloon Method?
I can't speak for the whipped cream dispenser as I've never used one, but the cracker really couldn't be simpler. Load in your cartridge to the bottom part of the cracker, there's only one way to do it, then screw the top on to puncture the cartridge. Place the balloon over the top of the cracker and then slowly unscrew the bottom. Let the nitrous out slowly by only unscrewing the bottom by a small amount as the cracker and the balloon will quickly become very cold and could pop the balloon easily. You can load multiple cartridges in a balloon by twisting the balloon at the bottom to keep the gas inside then reloading the cracker the same way you did the first time. It's pretty self explanatory and you'll learn the minutia of it very quickly after a few cartridges.
DO NOT INHALE DIRECTLY FROM THE CRACKER like someone already suggested. That is some bad advice. The whole reason to have a balloon in the first place is to warm the gas up before you inhale it. If you take it directly from the cracker you risk freezing your lungs/throat and killing yourself. The gas is pressurized and unbelievably cold. Whipped cream dispensers are different, but I really can't speak to that as I've never used them, but please be careful as it can be very dangerous.
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draumur said: I also read in various places that nitrous is best experienced in combination with other substances. Anyone care to elaborate on this claim? Would alcohol mix well with nitrous? I was already planning on smoking some bowls before nozzing but I am really curious about the alcohol/n2o combo. And what about mixing dissociatives? Like a line of K before hitting the nos.
I'm a hopeless nitrous head so I'm pretty much down to do nitrous with anything. I've stopped doing it by itself as that just seems like it would lead down the road to habit forming. The only thing I haven't tried nitrous with is alcohol, surprisingly, so that's something to explore in the future. Weed and n2o is heavenly, you'll figure out the meaning to the universe. I'm not big on dissociatives so I can't give much advice there but if you have any psychedelics hanging around I couldn't recommend it more highly. Nitrous and mushrooms are like peanut butter and jelly. It boosts the visual aspect of the trip several orders of magnitude and there doesn't seem to be an upper limit to where you can go. It also provides some very interesting body sensations, sort of like ocean waves of energy pulsing throughout your torso in time with what your experiencing visually. Hard to describe but intense to experience.
Be careful, they don't call it hippie crack for nothing. Just be sure to get plenty of oxygen while you journey down nitrous land and you'll be good to go
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: galindoi]
#19210210 - 11/30/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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galindoi said: DO NOT INHALE DIRECTLY FROM THE CRACKER like someone already suggested. That is some bad advice. The whole reason to have a balloon in the first place is to warm the gas up before you inhale it. If you take it directly from the cracker you risk freezing your lungs/throat and killing yourself. The gas is pressurized and unbelievably cold. Whipped cream dispensers are different, but I really can't speak to that as I've never used them, but please be careful as it can be very dangerous.
Be careful, they don't call it hippie crack for nothing. Just be sure to get plenty of oxygen while you journey down nitrous land and you'll be good to go 
Everything I know or feel on the subject has been stated already. I just wanted to stress the importance of using the balloon... you can really do some damage from inhaling straight from the cracker.
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: MindDrips]
#19210408 - 11/30/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've never inhaled directly from a cracker, but I've inhaled from whipped cream dispensers many times and it seems the best way to do it
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: Melkor]
#19210438 - 11/30/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont really agree with "you can only inhale once" idea. I always huffed till I felt the effects, blew the nitrous back in the balloon. Waited, then huffed again for further effects. I usually got 2 rounds of this before a cartridge is done.
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#19210453 - 11/30/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheGreenArrow said: I dont really agree with "you can only inhale once" idea. I always huffed till I felt the effects, blew the nitrous back in the balloon. Waited, then huffed again for further effects. I usually got 2 rounds of this before a cartridge is done.
This is what I've done, even if I have only tried Nitrous a couple times. It's just how I was taught to do it
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: MindDrips]
#19211458 - 12/01/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheGreenArrow said: I dont really agree with "you can only inhale once" idea. I always huffed till I felt the effects, blew the nitrous back in the balloon. Waited, then huffed again for further effects. I usually got 2 rounds of this before a cartridge is done.
I agree with this also. I have a difficult time taking in a lungful and then just holding it, I very quickly want to breathe fresh air. I'm a swimmer too, I have a pretty good lung capacity so I know it can't just be me. Whereas huffing you can simulate breathing enough to where you're not rolling on the floor trying to hold every last bit of it in. I'm not saying to huff until you pass out, just a few times followed by some fresh air then a few more times.
Huffing or holding it in, I really don't see any difference as you're depriving yourself of oxygen either way. I'd rather take the path of least resistance.
Edited by galindoi (12/01/13 08:33 AM)
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Re: Questions on nitrous oxide from a beginner [Re: galindoi]
#19224547 - 12/03/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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galindoi said:
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TheGreenArrow said: I dont really agree with "you can only inhale once" idea. I always huffed till I felt the effects, blew the nitrous back in the balloon. Waited, then huffed again for further effects. I usually got 2 rounds of this before a cartridge is done.
I agree with this also. I have a difficult time taking in a lungful and then just holding it, I very quickly want to breathe fresh air. I'm a swimmer too, I have a pretty good lung capacity so I know it can't just be me. Whereas huffing you can simulate breathing enough to where you're not rolling on the floor trying to hold every last bit of it in. I'm not saying to huff until you pass out, just a few times followed by some fresh air then a few more times.
Huffing or holding it in, I really don't see any difference as you're depriving yourself of oxygen either way. I'd rather take the path of least resistance.
I hear ya dudes...
I'll inhale it off the balloon and hold, then exhale back into the balloon, take a breath of fresh air, then again inhale off the balloon and repeat that a time or two. I always get some fresh air mixed in with it though, when I inhale the nitrous I leave enough lung space to pull it in deep and get just a bit of fresh air mixed in.
Either way will do the trick. What I mentioned in my previous about not huffing was just because I've seen a lot of people sit there and huff away for far too long . That's not necessary , but it's fine if you don't do it for too long. I hear what you're saying about it simulating breathing, so there is less resistance and easier to go about...that's also why some people, those that don't know better, will huff for a long time, because it feels like breathing.
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