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peripheral concerns, like air quality
#19207327 - 11/30/13 04:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello, I'm new to growing and have been educating myself on it while attempting to follow the PF tek to a t with my first grow but I had some questions about some arbitrary things. I apologize should these questions been asked before.
I failed to get wide mouth 1/2 pt jars though I did get regular mouth ones and I'm wondering if there are any benefits to having a taller cake. I understand these jars may be difficult to birth but I did not pack the brf substrate into the jars solid. The mix was fluffy and moist with some firm and crumbly packing once squeezed and the 6 jars are currently resting in the pressure cooker until they cool. I want to note that we followed the recipe for 5 jars with an added adjustment of 20% of mix for an additional 6th jar. I'm not sure if that was a good move; we had maybe 1/4c. of mix left over.
After the PC ran its course for an hour at 20psi (the lowest the unit would go to) we opened it to check on the temp of the jars. The PC has been opened 3 times, no more than a few minutes each time and I''ve removed one jar to exAmine it after rubbing my hands down in alcohol. He's worried we've upped the risk of contamination by opening the pressure cooker. The jars are covered in tin foil with masking tape over the holes in the lids. I've read it's okay to leave them in the PC to cool but should we have not opened it? We aired out the room then stopped the a/c, fan, and sprayed everything around and on the counter with 91% iso before prep--jars, bowls, pc, outside of brf and verm bags and if we had to walk away from the area, we sprayed ourselves down and recreated whatever we were touching. We worked closely and slowly around the area to not generate air currents. I feel like this may have not been enough.
We haven't knocked up the jars but once that is done the jars will be placed in a drawer in our bedroom after the area is sterilized. A lot of people in the house smoke cigarettes and the air flow and temp in the house fluctuates but for the most part stagnates. No one smokes in the bedroom. Will the smoke have any effect on the mycelium growth or fruiting once that occurs? I can keep a fan running in the bedroom (not aimed directly at the cakes/jars) where the sgfc and jars will be kept but what precautions can you recommend to help the success of the grow?
Thank you for your help! Better to be safe than sorry. I'm excited to continue; we're trying out the B+ strain first.
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Re: peripheral concerns, like air quality [Re: stytchid]
#19207346 - 11/30/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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stytchid said: I'm wondering if there are any benefits to having a taller cake.
Possible stalling from the substrate compacting...
Possible severe bottom pinning when fruiting because gravity sucks everything including moisture to the bottom...
Those are the only 2 "benefits" I can think of.....(sarcasm)
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stytchid said: After the PC ran its course for an hour at 20psi (the lowest the unit would go to) we opened it to check on the temp of the jars. The PC has been opened 3 times, no more than a few minutes each time and I''ve removed one jar to exAmine it after rubbing my hands down in alcohol. He's worried we've upped the risk of contamination by opening the pressure cooker.
If the jars have a dry verm layer there is no need to worry...they will be in open air from here on out.
It is only the inside that needs to remain sterile....and the dry verm layer is the filter, so you should be just fine.
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stytchid said: We aired out the room then stopped the a/c, fan, and sprayed everything around and on the counter with 91% iso before prep--jars, bowls, pc, outside of brf and verm bags and if we had to walk away from the area, we sprayed ourselves down and recreated whatever we were touching. We worked closely and slowly around the area to not generate air currents. I feel like this may have not been enough.
Dude, take them out of the PC with your bare hands....no need for extra cleanliness until inoculation.
At this point you should be able to fart and cough at the jars and not worry about a thing....the dry verm layer is filtering everything bad from touching your cake.
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stytchid said: We haven't knocked up the jars but once that is done the jars will be placed in a drawer in our bedroom after the area is sterilized.
Place them on a shelf, not in a drawer.
Do not sterilize anything else except for the needle with fire.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years. Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger. RR
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stytchid said: A lot of people in the house smoke cigarettes and the air flow and temp in the house fluctuates but for the most part stagnates. No one smokes in the bedroom. Will the smoke have any effect on the mycelium growth or fruiting once that occurs?
No....I smoke in my colonization room 24/7....weed and cigs.....you are seriously over thinking this...the jars are sealed and have a filter.
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