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OfflineJesus Cristo
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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: MadMind]
    #19211670 - 12/01/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I need a scale!! ive got some ive been sitting on that i cant wait to try. Anyone know how long fumarate will last in a cool dark place? Also if i did volumetric dosing could i store the left over in the fridge?




From what I've read fumarate is the most stable version of 4-aco-dmt (compaired to hcl and freebase). It should last up to 7-8 months in a cold dark area.



i can't see why is wouldn't last longer. I've had mine for around 10 months, and it's just as potent as ever (at least last time i tried a month ago)


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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #19212463 - 12/01/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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aw11driver said:
I need a scale!! ive got some ive been sitting on that i cant wait to try. Anyone know how long fumarate will last in a cool dark place? Also if i did volumetric dosing could i store the left over in the fridge?




From what I've read fumarate is the most stable version of 4-aco-dmt (compaired to hcl and freebase). It should last up to 7-8 months in a cold dark area.



i can't see why is wouldn't last longer. I've had mine for around 10 months, and it's just as potent as ever (at least last time i tried a month ago)




yeah I'm not positive, I ordered some recently but I've never actually stored it for that long.. I've just read that that's how long it takes to degrade so I wouldn't take my word for it 100%. Nice to hear yours lasted long though :smile:


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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: MadMind]
    #19212689 - 12/01/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cool, glad to hear it holding up if stored right. I cant wait to give it a shot. Im thinking 10-15mg to dip my toes in the water to see what its like.


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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: aw11driver]
    #19213418 - 12/01/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If your going oral, I personally started out in the 20-25 mg range, it was really neat!


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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19213498 - 12/01/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

oh about dosage, i know i can't give advice on here but...

i've had 4-aco-dmt from two different vendors vary GREATLY in potency and effects. i've brought this issue up here but not many people seem too have had the same experience, but from the hundreds of reports i've read on this chemical there is a SUBSTANTIAL difference in dosages for many people.  Some people say take +90mg for a strong trip, others say 40mg is a heroic dose.  I've found BOTH to be true, depending on your source.

I've had 20mg kick my ass, and i've had 20mg be a starter type euphoric dose. i would start no more than ten and judge how potent your batch is.  I don't know what exactly accounts for this variance but i think it has something to do with 4-aco-dmt converting into psilocin or some other compound.  The batches that i needed more dosage for an equal trip felt more like mushrooms, almost identical. 

The more potent batches have felt like something similar, but with it's own signature experience.  The fluffier the chemical looked, the less potent it was, but the more it felt like mushrooms.  If anyone has bought 4-aco-dmt from different vendors and has experienced this I would love for them to confirm this so I know I'm not crazy lol.  If it's not a objective difference it might be subjective in the sense that the more you consume of this chemical, the more it either does/doesn't convert into whatever it converts in the liver. 

AGAIN, this is my subjective experience, and I'd like someone else to confirm this and maybe make a thread if enough people see it because it could be pretty dangerous if true.  This chemical has been out for quite a while so for anyone else not to agree with me might just mean I'm full of shit:glittershitz:


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Re: 4-ACO-DMT Experiences? [Re: MadMind]
    #19213570 - 12/01/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has been closed.

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I let this thread go for a while but this topic is not allowed in this forum.

People can easily confuse one RC with another so we try to limit such discussion in here.

Sadly, that means some of the good and safe RC discussions get stopped as well.

It is sometimes a silly rule, but it is a rule for a good reason.


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