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It's not what you get...
#19206031 - 11/29/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it what you give?
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: Rahz] 1
#19206041 - 11/29/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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what goes around and comes around is that not a tire? no no no the tire goes around the hub, it's all about the hub. but the hub does nothing the tire does everything that why they say god im tired not jesus im hubbed mohammad my ass is hubbed!
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: Rahz]
#19206331 - 11/29/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rahz said: Is it what you give?
Is it what you give what?
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: Icelander]
#19206392 - 11/29/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm, the wise man never explained that part.
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: Rahz]
#19206413 - 11/29/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You need better wise men.
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: Rahz]
#19206520 - 11/29/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rahz said: Is it what you give?
Depends on who you give it to... 
Seriously though, it makes me happier to give than to receive, even though people don't appreciate it most of the time. I guess I'm selfish like that. I like to feel GOOD!
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: Space Elf]
#19206809 - 11/29/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's how it is
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It's not what you get but how much you enjoy life?
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: teknix]
#19207329 - 11/30/13 04:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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and the rejection if you don't have enough where it counts that keeps nagging in the background
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: teknix]
#19207371 - 11/30/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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teknix said: It's not what you get but how much you enjoy life?
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: Rahz]
#19207521 - 11/30/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rahz said: Is it what you give?
good question !
from what it shows that you know how getting in anyways is wrong
it is not about giving really, it is about truth of individual freedom being a plus out of free true realities
then you must act as being a plus to whatever you know around you or what you can see being really true freely, by adding to a positive sense so to be true it must be out of yourself being positive, which would realize the effect of confirming you as being free plus individual, so then it is about you getting your freedom right being true, so positive sense of being free out of everything altogether sorted in positive value end reality freedom
then it would be the constant of giving to oneself reality freedom objectively through the perspective of others individuals freedoms out, or to stay with objective reality freedom and gain more positive freedom out, or to enjoy the freedom add you got by truth and prefer to stay existing being free constant without moving really, which is also possible as long as free beings recognize that truth matters first, and objective is always superior in truth, superior freedom in all terms so superior freedom rights present facts
unfortunately, all and existence is for truth value, it is bad thing, from what obviously right individualities are nothing while abused by evil individualities then
truth is objective reality of present freedom plural relative meaning wills sorted out in terms of freedom superiority so as positive free reality end ... as the base of possible freedom true presence till it becomes absolute present positive source as the constant existence out of all already existing, from different wills and sides of realities
in all free terms of truth value, it means existence values, how what matter relatively is the matter value rights which deserve infinite justifications, when truth freedom exist so constant objective (positive) source exist, then existence can be fully out of true values realizations and infinite justifications for more existence positive matters that really matter...
individual freedoms out of truth so realities of all, have of course a particularity seen in truth being the relative value, which in certain case could be superior to absolute value, when it is the true present base of freedom value which become later an objective value in truth
this correlation between relative value and absolute value is the essence of constant positive relation between individuals freedom and truth as they are totally else to each others but only when they both mean true free present values conceptions or in facts of being present.. when values are the reason of positive things constancy, positive is in truth freedom right or freedom values, like of superior moves
but because of what any and all is never the real truth value, as objective truth freedom is only relative to infinite superior moves and individuals freedom are only themselves absolute valuable move or existing reality value, when objective freedom prevail in concept of value so individuals are only freedom rights out of their true existing selves
so because of that, what rule any and all is abuse, as any and all would be in constant positive needs and means, since they are not the definitive positive source, in fact and in infinite conception of it
truth is a problem because it is true, so there is no way of escaping its existence, so when truth is bad everyone is involved, but also it would become worse always then
truth in conceptions is easy when only its most perfect state could stay relatively existing, as if there were no existence truth is the most superiority including all as the present, closer to existence superiority, or because it is true, truth is what wont mean existing as it exists of constancy not of wills
always, infinity is the true value of truth, so what is none but objectively because of being always so the constant is the value source while it points freedom so the abstraction of being right constant
that is how objective freedom abuse their fact of being objective freedom superiority by forcing individuals freedoms to their meaning wills of positive
and individuals freedoms abuse their positions of powers over smaller individuals size, to be in force on objective life
but others individuals are nothing that matter to own individuality, while truth in relative means and absolute means matter always to anyone
this is also what confirm how all and any should mean the truth, not because it is better, on the contrary truth is the reason of worse, but because truth matter.. its presence is always and its consequences too
because we are always in positive needs as no one is the ultimate positive source, that is why we avoid to mean objective negativity and keep jumping to mean positive values of any fact
that is why it is also better to be individually, then freedom value would be actually present of what each individual do realize to himself being free so separate from everything else
like me I see mostly truth value, as the value of clarity so the value of zero as positive end, from what any is then free possible move through constant positive base .. but It is just an example and not me, but I really like the truth for clarity maybe more then for its infinite value which surprise me sometimes positively
any god is like any other, unless you mean through others powers on you, being positive, as if you really enjoy it, which I doubt from what in truth liars are revealed meaning to be in powers over others as the reason of accepting gods powers on them
but also now it becomes clear that any fact freedom so objective power is also another, so the conception of truth so the true objective is infinity, what is really constant, matter because constant.. with no speculations possible
which then confirm existence sense being to individualities literally
so small free individual being, could be more truly present freedom then all powerful free entities together through infinite truth... this what truth is revealing now in lies how it is a speculation about a point to mean existence sense being only individually possible
sorry for becoming boring now but I need to say a last point
the main problem for all whether absolute freedom or relative freedom, appears to be in the ability to recognize another superiority
gods know more how objective freedom are others that is why they surely reverse their means, like also how objective freedom know gods are not really free so inferior willing means, that is why they make their means through them, as reality would be positive only through objective means then
so how whatever kind of freedom it is the same fact, freedom is weak towards positive existence and also cant accept that another could be positive more, nor basically more right
else recognition is the issue
look how forums so space of words only, the reality is always about arguments and the most positive conversations are the ones that evolved for competitions wise, like if you sound intelligent I would invent how I am more.. it is nonsense when not true, we cant use what is always absolutely for such less then relative means
the point, why cant we accept others being superior too ?? because it is the effect of infinity, the sense out of is true, and when infinity is superiority then own superiority is a must to say anything or to be alone
that issue is also same for objective superiority, what is no one or none but the freedom source when seeing others get confused and hate that a lot
of course there is also the reason of evil, but it applies only to what is never true never then superior about any, then it is what mean to abuse infinity, since by its fact exist through lies then no constant also can be, then it can attack constant and claim superiority freedom being since it can kill the infinite constant as being superiority reference
from where the principle live by killing emerge
but I guess if the problem wasn't beyond universe a real problem, that wrong edges like evil will couldn't exist
the answer that I had in my life by myself alone about else superiority, seeing how far I must keep recognizing else like impossible thing to do
so the answer is by giving superiority to infinity truth, so to what it seems being for absolutes constancies objective positive sources always, never to anyone else even if objective sources
the answer is what we are out of superiority, because superiority is really to infinity we are the positive free absolute constancy out of our relative superiority, where we can realize ourselves alone, this is our logical ends
but any is only absolutely existing, so us are the freedom rights where we realize ourselves rights alone for what we are present to ourselves
infinity is constant superior, not existing, not possibly present sense we exist, constant positive in the mean of being present, so existing value that shows how infinity matter, like the sense of being present is what matter, we will mean it to be in better constant ..
each free conscious is unique it is only its present freedom from the conscious of being the more free consciously realize something the more it would be out of that particular realization unique freedom but also the more free consciously do not realize anything the more it would be out of that fact unique still out of else freedom
so it shows how any is the same in the sense that any can be moving or still depending on the situation or his own present wills
and that apply to gods to objective sources to any conscious ..they are relative like us when they become conscious of else existence
it is obvious how the issue is far general, when right people are so far abused and destroyed while bad people are having it all
it means that who don't want to force its superiority he would be not only less rich and healthy but also no superiority would deal with him as existing
only who forces their superiority motivate others superiority to mean other things but recognize them then too, which is also a source of evil increase
and that is how the will to make women as the positive figure to mean what is not women being superiors, is all evil too killing infinity rights of superiority absolutely, while making happiness of evil wills to lie about being constantly positive out, while it is through negating others free rights at the back of themselves too like showing how far the feminine is false, it is not like that one recognition of being self constant, it is out of forcing being positive by killing positive rights of others while meaning superiority in evil ways
it is an issue for everyone and everything not about any particular trait
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: absols]
#19207546 - 11/30/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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that's monumental with emphasis on the latter
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giving is better than receiving
dont just give to give, give something that would actually be needed
but I also agree, it is how much you enjoy life
the good thing about giving is you realize that less is more , and happiness isnt limited to the self I love giving flower seeds/plants to everyone I know ;-) $.01 worth, but priceless value
think the most common problem is using too much and giving too little in my experience no appreciation then
less is more
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: lessismore]
#19207667 - 11/30/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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less cannot be more, this is the issue, less is less so more abuse that fact
your argument is about something else
how less can be superior and how more can be inferior
which is due to truth, being freedom value, so freedom superiority is what exist
then what is more free can be objectively superior while alone since free out of nothing, but in the linear sense definitely positive value
it is due to the definitive fact, it increases as constant to infinity
so it goes back to truth value
while more if in terms of quantity could be of lies and trafications of facts knowledge, so it would be sustained only for a time, in that end what is truly constant even if nothing is a superior value, since at that end it wont exist anymore while what is really still without doing any would be bigger, logically
but definitely what matters is truth principally, so less cant be more otherwise it wont be truly less, and more not really more
the word less exist because absolute less exist
for example, freedom outside of everything, so on one terms, is always less then freedom within everything or conscious freedom as objective realizations of anything else ... that is how gods are by definition inferiors that are forced to stick together, for what alone they are less always relative that cant matter at all but through force despite all the powers they can be over seeing all and being relative to infinite means
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: absols]
#19207807 - 11/30/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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fundamental with emphasis on the latter
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gods are less free :-)
because they are aware of their subconsciousness
most really bad choices are auto-removed(not a possibility any longer), but that doesnt mean gods dont make mistakes
gods can be human at any time
less is more is typical when you break free of thought (controller of own thoughts) it means you dont need everything, you got everything you need, peace is within
less is more on GNU+linux too :-) , hippie operating system, the "more" program is replaced with the less program more simply doesnt exist on GNU
dont know what you mean about superiority you always talk about, but I know there exists basal truths, which I recognize when I see them now dont always live by them, but I notice truths
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: lessismore]
#19208090 - 11/30/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you love being god like apparently, this is your choice but you cannot mean gods being more superior then all, it would be an evil mean
it could be your choice to enjoy being one outside of everything, you could see that as superior thing, from your own self perspectives..
but you cannot force what you think being truth or right
truth or right should always be pointed out of conscious realizations of else existence truth existence mean infinite results, so always plural free means out of the same truth right also is about a self free move, then talking about rights is always meaning objective values, rights ends
and to me it is clear that gods don't do but bad choices, it is amazing how you cant see out of the world and universal life ways
gods are animals life, or do you really take those animals seriously as being themselves wills and powers of force??
gods by definition is the inferiority of not being able to recognize else existence, it is the reverse of what you think, it is the conscious that cant be but absolute thing, they cant be unconscious ..
that is why gods cannot change, they are absolute freedom out of their necessary moves, so they insist on being through powers over anything and everything else to stay out positively what they will always be the same ...
that is why any god cant move but as extreme negative source to else so to existence in opposites terms through killing its fact first that is how from ever billions of years life of gods is through worse dirty animals willing ends and through the most disgusting things ends... always..
the mean is not god it is the truth which prevail on all and gods of course too
truth will force gods to limit their freedom, the truth will force it, like they are forcing true things ... while truth will force them for truth rights when existence cant be but exclusively in true reality of present freedom values
like existence must be free, so only in truth of infinite value of being constant ends
then rights out of truth existence rights would be positive free wills
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: absols]
#19208137 - 11/30/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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All is god but not everyone know they are god
God created man in his name But then man wanted knowledge, ultimative knowledge Couldnt get enough, which led to separation and suffering
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: lessismore]
#19208178 - 11/30/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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are you talking about yourself or about me ?? if neither why are we talking about them, aren't we also conscious beings in humans condition??
you love to think that all is one, and one is all for simplification that become to an edge obvious evil means
all cannot be one, it is by definition plural present existence ends, and one is definitely only one itself
otherwise it would be called something else
this rejection of logics I guess is for your love to powers
no one can create others beings, when being is what it does first alone and second being is always out of else recognition of existence, so out of reality, being real
how can you take these beliefs as absolute facts ? do you picture yourself creating others ?? and how are you a god ??
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Re: It's not what you get... [Re: absols]
#19208179 - 11/30/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's not what you get but how you get it
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