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    #19204955 - 11/29/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

50mgs of zolpidem+100 datura seeds.
Last time when I took 50mgs of zolpidem,I...don't remember anything but I don't think that I had hallucinated or anything like that,all that I know is that I got amnesia.Is this normal? I used zolpidem around 10 times now,maybe I've built tolerance even though I use it once every 2 weeks or..why don't I experience hallucinations anymore?

I think combining zolpidem with datura would give a very nice trip(combining them in the exact quantity specified above).
My questions are:
do you think it's a good idea?
would the trip be too hardcore?
are there any serious side effects from this combo? (when I combined zolpidem with alcohol I had extreme nausea for 2 days and couldn't eat anything)


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205056 - 11/29/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Im not a datura dose expert, but datura is dangerous already, probably not a great idea to combine it with other substances.


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: 2bakednate]
    #19205063 - 11/29/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's right..but,zolpidem will be almost equal to nothing,it will slightly intensify the hallucinations and bring amnesia afterwards,that's all that it could possibly do,death from datura is because of high temperature and too fast heart rate,zolpidem slows the heart rate so it's a good ''counter''.Now,do you think it's a good combo?


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205111 - 11/29/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well when you put it that way it sounds a bit more reasonable, but im clearly no expert on any of that so my opinion is pretty useless. Lol


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205112 - 11/29/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:Trollface:


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: themusicofzann]
    #19205117 - 11/29/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think he's trolling. Just look at that sig.


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: The Phleg]
    #19205145 - 11/29/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hope that someone can explain why would anyone even think that I'm trolling or ironic. I'm actually serious and it's getting annoying,why is there also a guy that says that I'm trolling? If you don't believe me and if you are not willing to help me,move on.


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205186 - 11/29/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've tried zolpidem. It knocked me out and gave me vivid and strange dreams. It is not a psychedelic. I have no experience with datura, but in general deliriants are not a trip or high at all, they are a messed up and twisted experience. Maybe you'll like it but you'd be 1 in a thousand if you do.


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205193 - 11/29/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I SERIOUSLY suggest you do not mix the two because the "amnesia" you experience is SUPER normal in high doses of Ambien and you can do a lot things you didn't plan on doing, put items in weird places around your house,eat several pounds of food. Some people referred me to Google "Ambien walrus" try that, some of them are funny and accurate.
Adding that many Datura seeds into the mix is a horrible idea , because then you would be extremely delusional AND you would be forgetting things and IMO all I see is this leading to harm. Just take the ambien or 3 or 4 seeds of datura not 100. Go to erowid.com and find a reasonable dosage


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19205555 - 11/29/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing happened to me from 3-4 seeds of datura,I was delusional when I've taken 85 seeds so I think I need a high dose,as about the harm that I could do,well,the single big harm that I can do under datura consists in killing myself or cutting my wrists again and while under the influence of zolpidem,I just go on a walk and fall asleep outside under a bench(best case scenario)
So,I won't hurt anyone,the single person that can get hurt is me and if I get hurt,that's not a problem,don't even worry about that,but,first,before not worrying,I must take all safety measures;they consist in knowing if this combo,in this quantity has the chance of killing me without me doing anything stupid,what do you think about this?


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205699 - 11/29/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well all the literature I've read says 30-50 seeds is an extremely high dose. Do you take Datura often?


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19205728 - 11/29/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes,every week.
also,I've read on erowid that someone took 600 seeds and is..theoretically alive xD


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205750 - 11/29/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am familiar with your posts, and you come across as an underaged attention seeker. But in the off-chance that you are not a 

:trollmove: 

I think you would be taking a foolish risk.

Ambien abuse is renown for giving its users amnesiac experiences (essentially sleep-walking experiences). It sounds like you are aware of this (and it sounds like a desirable experience to you?). Datura has the added benefits of being not only a toxic low dose botanical and a dissociative, but a delerient as well...and 100 seeds is a HIGH dose
It has been well established that delerium from datura mimics psychosis, complete with all the terror and paranoia while having no recolection of having ingested any chemicals.
It has also been well established that people in the sleepwalking state tend to get agressive when confronted.

So,

Best case scenarios: The ambien knocks you out, and you sleep right through the datura delerium

OR you go on an adventure that you can't remember at all when you wake up.

Worst case scenarios: (in oder from best to worst)

You OD, game over.

You go out and end up getting hit by a bus, fall off a building, or whatever and end up fucked up for the rest of your life.

You end up physically accosting someone, or driving and getting someone killed.


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19205768 - 11/29/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well,I'll take less datura seeds then,maybe only 40,that would be better.


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19205776 - 11/29/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205808 - 11/29/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i think this combo will be safer than datura alone


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: spixce]
    #19205821 - 11/29/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

this is exactly what I'm thinking!
also,if I am sleep deprived for about 3 days,my body temperature will be lower,so,when I take datura,my body temperature will raise and become normal instead of very high,but now,the question is:does high temperature of body intensifies hallucinations produced by datura?


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Re: Datura+Zolpidem [Re: Grigore]
    #19205907 - 11/29/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Off topic for the psychedelic experience and cannot move to another forum because of the dose mentioned. Re read the forum rules before posting again so I don't have to lock inappropriate threads.


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