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unlucky13
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need a cyan id please!!
#19204878 - 11/29/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hi all im new here pretty much only signed up to help get a positive id for a friend, only info i have is already stated along with pictures he emailed me but if any more is required i can ask.....
Habitat: ancient woodland, soil/floor Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
Gills:dark brown Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Stem: various white, sort of hollow but when pulled apart revile a sort of stick like middle running through? Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Cap:caramel, beige when drying similar to liberty cap quite tuff similar rubbery-ness to liberty cap, wavey 2.5cm to 3 inch Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Spore print color: purple to purple/brown? Very important!
Bruising: very blue Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
Other information: see pictures Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19204902 - 11/29/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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they look good to me... the photos are a bit out of focus, however... purple prints and blue bruising =
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: bloodworm]
#19204914 - 11/29/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilocybe cyanescen is likely
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unlucky13
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: bloodworm]
#19204915 - 11/29/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nothing dodgy / suspect?? how easy are galerina to tell apart?
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19204924 - 11/29/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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unlucky13 said: nothing dodgy / suspect?? how easy are galerina to tell apart?
nope... the undulate margin, white stems, purple spore print, blue bruising..cant go wrong there..just make sure they all display such qualities
those are not Galerina species
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unlucky13
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19204925 - 11/29/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i can ask for better pics if that would help {didnt realise they were so crappy)
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19204966 - 11/29/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did he really find these in the woods?! That would be very unusual. That being said, they do look like cyans.
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unlucky13
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: Lhun]
#19205173 - 11/29/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep on the floor in woodland with a few different trees mainly pine, ancient woodland. no conifer though iv read galerina grow on dead conifer sorry to keep going over it, i just want to make sure my friend blow his liver on the weekend, his mind however he can do with as he wishes!
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unlucky13
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19205179 - 11/29/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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* doesn't blow his liver *
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19205213 - 11/29/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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get better pictures
i missed the woodland part.. that is indeed odd, but i still think they are cyanescens
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: Rafiikii]
#19205378 - 11/29/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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in regards to the woodeland they where found in the uk in a fairly well known forest As for better photos here we go and please pull out any suspects...
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Rafiikii


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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: Rafiikii]
#19205396 - 11/29/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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those are Psilocybe cyanescens
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Rafiikii said: the undulate margin, white stems, purple spore print, blue bruising..cant go wrong there..just make sure they all display such qualities
those are not Galerina species
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: Rafiikii]
#19205417 - 11/29/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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uk??
what about Psilocybe subaeruginascens...?
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unlucky13
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: Rafiikii]
#19205444 - 11/29/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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so they all look good? ( i know you cant be 100% without seeing them in person ) The other my friend was wondering is if he once ate 10.7 dried libs and wasn't quite as f****d as he expected ( dont get me wrong he was still pleastly f****d ) Then how may of these would do the same? 3 or 4 mushrooms? more? should he go by weight?
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19205466 - 11/29/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah the uk, pretty sure he said he had gone looking to find the elusive cyan, got a few hints from google then went on his merry way (by which i mean he researched alot before hand like he did lib caps all those years ago) he wanted to find good ol' natural ones before giving in to wood chip patchs
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19205482 - 11/29/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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unlucky13 said: yep on the floor in woodland with a few different trees mainly pine, ancient woodland. no conifer though iv read galerina grow on dead conifer
Pine trees are conifers
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: Ran-D]
#19205732 - 11/29/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't see as much bruising on the cap margin as I'm use to, but those sure look right otherwise and there IS some bruising apparent on the caps. They look like the few cyans I found in grass habitats this year.
As mentioned... Blue bruising, purple spore print = good to go for psilocybe species.
Please have your friend take some habitat shots for us here. Cyans only get as close to the woods as park entrances here in the US. Very interesting.
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Edited by Chuck H (11/29/13 05:36 PM)
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: Chuck H]
#19205959 - 11/29/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The ones I can clearly see def look like cyans
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unlucky13
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: tnj8228]
#19206269 - 11/29/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pines are a sub species of conifer...... not quest the same but i see your point, and seriously? no else finds these in woods / forest? i no at least 3 in my local area where a 'fungus group' has done all the work for me by finding them then reporting said finds on the bloody internet!!!
Thanks to every one that replied and please, if you do notice any that don't look like cyan please say, or i fear my friend mat consume these over the weekend then it will be to late!!
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Re: need a cyan id please!! [Re: unlucky13]
#19206292 - 11/29/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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unlucky13 said: no else finds these in woods / forest?
No one I know. Wood chips and sometimes dune grass. Not saying it couldn't happen... but I think its more likely your friend just told you the forest because saying "at the local mall parking lot" would have given his patch up. 
They all look good from what I can see, but if he is worried make sure they all show some sign of blue bruising to be extra safe.
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