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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19202543 - 11/28/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ellis Dee said:
"DMT is not a drug, it is an extraterrestrial communications device. These are creatures somewhere in the universe who are so different from us that they come to us not in starships the size of Manhattan, but in drug molecules that are dinky. So we are in contact here with some kind of extraterrestrial technology and these are true aliens. There is a parallel universe, unsuspected by most human beings. It's right here all the time. It's inhabited, these beings have their own spheres and problems and so forth." - Terence McKenna

This may be what humans are bound to evolve to, beings of pure energy. And I do agree with Terence, DMT is an extraterrestrial technology and communication device. THe elves are real. They are as real as we are.




If somebody owed you money, I would say PAY THE MAN!! upon reading this. Couldn't agree more.


:peace: bill


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: Kief Ledger]
    #19202544 - 11/28/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well regardless of whatever "reality" it is unto itself...To the people who have really gone deep over and over again, the idea that somehow human consciousness is contacting non-local quantum information, or other dimensional levels of reality, or [insert arbitrary linguistic model here], seems fairly plausible if not even compelling. Those who haven't usually just assume its all in your head, or all of your imagination. I tend to lean towards the idea that the imagination itself is so bizarre once you really plunge into it that it can't be accounted for unless its tapping into some kind of non-local field of information.

But then again I'm a nutcase who has done a lot of dmt and ayahuasca. Believe nothing, question everything.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19202573 - 11/28/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Whatever you believe about the reality of DMT Hyperspace, it doesn't change the fact that while you're there in that incredibly bizarre universe with those alien beings, it seems completely real at the time, and it does every time you do it. Even if the entities are a manifestation of your own mind, to me that's just as fascinating as the theory that they're autonomous beings living in a free-standing ever-present universe. If our minds can produce such elaborate and unimaginable visions, then there is A LOT more we have to uncover about the power of the human mind.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: Space Elf]
    #19202590 - 11/28/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Couldn't agree more, spaceelf. I feel like its our mission to figure out infinity, even though its impossible to figure it out. You can only feel it out. The never-ending pool of knowledge begins at that point.


:peace: bill


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: Space Elf]
    #19202593 - 11/28/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Space Elf said:
Whatever you believe about the reality of DMT Hyperspace, it doesn't change the fact that while you're there in that incredibly bizarre universe with those alien beings, it seems completely real at the time, and it does every time you do it. Even if the entities are a manifestation of your own mind, to me that's just as fascinating as the theory that they're autonomous beings living in a free-standing ever-present universe. If our minds can produce such elaborate and unimaginable visions, then there is A LOT more we have to uncover about the power of the human mind.




Yup! Dennis McKenna went into great elaboration on this exact point in his book the brotherhood of the screaming abyss. I couldn't agree more.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19202651 - 11/28/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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KingKnowledge said:
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Ellis Dee said:
"DMT is not a drug, it is an extraterrestrial communications device. These are creatures somewhere in the universe who are so different from us that they come to us not in starships the size of Manhattan, but in drug molecules that are dinky. So we are in contact here with some kind of extraterrestrial technology and these are true aliens. There is a parallel universe, unsuspected by most human beings. It's right here all the time. It's inhabited, these beings have their own spheres and problems and so forth." - Terence McKenna

This may be what humans are bound to evolve to, beings of pure energy. And I do agree with Terence, DMT is an extraterrestrial technology and communication device. THe elves are real. They are as real as we are.





Uhhh...

I'm all for the psychedelic experience but this sounds like some bullllllllshit. DMT is a drug. DMT isn't an alien...

Taking it a bit too far IMO



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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #19202676 - 11/28/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

DMT is a psychoactive, duh.

McKenna assumes too much. He may be right but I doubt it. He just assumes he's got it all figured out and no one does really. Sure he's tripped more than anyone but what's that tell you? Hes either got it figured out or he's just another burnt out hippie with a silver tongue.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #19202728 - 11/28/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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tahp93 said:
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KingKnowledge said:
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Ellis Dee said:
"DMT is not a drug, it is an extraterrestrial communications device. These are creatures somewhere in the universe who are so different from us that they come to us not in starships the size of Manhattan, but in drug molecules that are dinky. So we are in contact here with some kind of extraterrestrial technology and these are true aliens. There is a parallel universe, unsuspected by most human beings. It's right here all the time. It's inhabited, these beings have their own spheres and problems and so forth." - Terence McKenna

This may be what humans are bound to evolve to, beings of pure energy. And I do agree with Terence, DMT is an extraterrestrial technology and communication device. THe elves are real. They are as real as we are.





Uhhh...

I'm all for the psychedelic experience but this sounds like some bullllllllshit. DMT is a drug. DMT isn't an alien...

Taking it a bit too far IMO



:whathesaid:





DMT made you the alien.



:peace: bill


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: GreySatyr] * 1
    #19202759 - 11/28/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He has even said himself that he doesn't know it's correct, it's just his theory upon. He doesn't expect people to believe his theories but rather get you thinking about the POSSIBLE ramifications of the theories. Also he has never said he's had the most drugs out of anyone, I'm not sure where you got that.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19202932 - 11/28/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, I'm sorry, praise Mckenna OHHHMMM.

No, Mckenna is a genius but genius' make bigger mistakes than idiots. Yeah, okay he spouted his theories like they were truth then said they may not be true. Blah blah blah. He stated that he's probably tripped more than most people and he's right, he's tripped more than most of us ever dream of tripping. McKenna is awesome, period but he's it some outlandish theories that may or may not be true, period. Maybe in fifty years he will be looked at as some sort of God that was the first to contact aliens but ya know, maybe he's just a pipe dreamer like most of us. His ideas are comparable to Alice in wonderland, it's designed to make you think and it's perfectly executed. He was a great man but he was also out of his mind.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19202992 - 11/28/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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GreyMorph said:
DMT is a psychoactive, duh.

McKenna assumes too much. He may be right but I doubt it. He just assumes he's got it all figured out and no one does really. Sure he's tripped more than anyone but what's that tell you? Hes either got it figured out or he's just another burnt out hippie with a silver tongue.




You clearly don't know much about Terence or what he was saying, no offence


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19203130 - 11/28/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh, I'm sorry, praise Mckenna OHHHMMM.

No, Mckenna is a genius but genius' make bigger mistakes than idiots. Yeah, okay he spouted his theories like they were truth then said they may not be true. Blah blah blah. He stated that he's probably tripped more than most people and he's right, he's tripped more than most of us ever dream of tripping. McKenna is awesome, period but he's it some outlandish theories that may or may not be true, period. Maybe in fifty years he will be looked at as some sort of God that was the first to contact aliens but ya know, maybe he's just a pipe dreamer like most of us. His ideas are comparable to Alice in wonderland, it's designed to make you think and it's perfectly executed. He was a great man but he was also out of his mind.



Completely Agreed :smile:


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #19203215 - 11/29/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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gushtunkinflupped said:
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GreyMorph said:
DMT is a psychoactive, duh.

McKenna assumes too much. He may be right but I doubt it. He just assumes he's got it all figured out and no one does really. Sure he's tripped more than anyone but what's that tell you? Hes either got it figured out or he's just another burnt out hippie with a silver tongue.




You clearly don't know much about Terence or what he was saying, no offence




I don't think Terence knew what he, himself was saying, no offense. He proposed ludicrous ideas that may or may not hold water. Dude, I've been in the same realm as Mckenna, I've seen it. I've lived it. Hyperspace is just another fundamentally altered dimension that has its own rules that may or may not be changed to directly alter this reality or not whether the traveller chooses to do so or not. It's impossible to understand McKenna with anything other than the open mind and the experience that comes with it. In the end, there is no end.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19203676 - 11/29/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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GreyMorph said:Dude, I've been in the same realm as Mckenna, I've seen it. I've lived it. Hyperspace is just another fundamentally altered dimension that has its own rules that may or may not be changed to directly alter this reality or not whether the traveller chooses to do so or not. It's impossible to understand McKenna with anything other than the open mind and the experience that comes with it. In the end, there is no end.



That is exactly right. Well said!


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #19203698 - 11/29/13 06:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like this saying is true with psychedelics but the aliens are "animals" it's like while tripping our bodies emit actual vibes and it's like "animals" can feel this and understand us "humans" for once.
Like when I'm not tripping the birds fly away but when I'm tripping I connect with nature it's like the birds take a couple steps closer to me to understand me by feeling my vibes.

Don't know if that's true but I believe vibes are real it's like waves of energy our body emits.


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Re: DMT is not a drug [Re: aler]
    #19203705 - 11/29/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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aler said:
I feel like this saying is true with psychedelics but the aliens are "animals" it's like while tripping our bodies emit actual vibes and it's like "animals" can feel this and understand us "humans" for once.
Like when I'm not tripping the birds fly away but when I'm tripping I connect with nature it's like the birds take a couple steps closer to me to understand me by feeling my vibes.

Don't know if that's true but I believe vibes are real it's like waves of energy our body emits.




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