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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #19201534 - 11/28/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, india's culture would be a good model to follow


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Konyap]
    #19201639 - 11/28/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP is an anti-marijuana shill agent, sent to make marijuana smokers look bad by having outbursts over the topic.


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Everlong]
    #19201702 - 11/28/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

more like i just had an outburst; and then to settle the argument, which another user BTW had sidetracked the topic to, immediately after the OP; and with nothing regarding the OP's "situation" at all (OP never said he was thinking about or talking about addiction and he say's "oh well, all the stoners would tell you can't get addicted, or that's what they'd have you believe" :homo: )

i simply corrected his inane tribulation with spelling out for everyone off the bat that "someone would have you believe that Marijuana isn't safe" is a LOUSY EMPTY PLATITUDE that serves no purpose other then to provoke an inane argument about the "safety of Marijuana". you know, i'm beginning to think i've been trololed.

i might have been a bit adamant in my posting in this thread, but i was having an "outburst" or "going ape" as you would seem to imply, Everlog, because i had done that in an EARLIER thread (my outburst) and i had thought that being "an asshole" about the subject (which LittleD frankly deserved) has too un-assertive in to which degree i wanted to "frankly" approach the subject.

thus i made this thread, which has the first two of it's posts as re-worded versions of two in the previous thread (which i freely admit, didn't quite need my "outburst" as you would call it, but i wasn't "outbursting" AT FIRST, i was merely making a statement, and then defending said statement against argument, and i didn't feel like arguing, and it was stupid of me.)

but in THIS thread, am i really being so out of hand? i defy you to show me where i am being out of hand except with the beginning two posts which are clearly from the other thread, and were said more "loudly", i guess you can say, from the rest.

i am trying to make my self as adamant as i possibly can in this thread, especially now, because i feel like i may have mis-represented myself, but i assure you, that if you look back you'll see me being level and concise with my proclamations and info, and was still being accosted by BitterCactus while i was still trying to assert my point to further reference.

you know, because Bitter thinks some obviously faulty information is true and is trying to say that i must be a "Marijuana addict" and displaying symptoms of being "in withdrawal".

isn't that trolling?

anyways, you too, should be able to see the folly in your ways; you can plainly see i am calm and in control of my devices.

you should to stop trying to provoke me.


Edited by akira_akuma (11/28/13 06:43 PM)


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] * 4
    #19201772 - 11/28/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah brah you're totally calm, that's why you just wrote multiple paragraphs explaining your outburst.

Do the italics represent how calm you are? :lol:

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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Everlong]
    #19202031 - 11/28/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well, yeah actually the fact of how many paragraphs i typed and how i tried to be as calculated as possibly might just speak to how calm i am right now. guess what i'm doing... enjoying a show and typing some shit on the internet. it's soothing. dude... you can't just make assumptions based on presuppositions. you think that because i am typing a long post, that i am mad?

:lol: that is called a presupposition; and you are wrong, because i can tell you verily that you are wrong and presumptious, AS USUAL. :ilold:

maybe more emoticons will help: :tongue:

gee, i guess maybe i'm just EXPLODING right NOW. :imslow:

NOT :rant:

jk!!

:rolleyes:

PS: oh and the italics everywhere was because of a mismanaged tag, and if you thought about it, maybe you could have an at least useful assumption, on your part. :tongue:


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #19202049 - 11/28/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You can always stop replying to me, but it's obvious that it bothers you. :smilingpuppy:

Calm recognizes calm.

It was just a joke :chillpill:, don't write a short story explaining how calm you are.


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Everlong]
    #19202068 - 11/28/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Everlong said:
You can always stop replying to me, but it's obvious that it bothers you. :smilingpuppy:

Calm recognizes calm.

It was just a joke :chillpill:, don't write a short story explaining how calm you are.




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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Everlong]
    #19202090 - 11/28/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

nah, i don't think it's a joke. i think it's just trololing.

well, i guess i'm being just as trolly, as i kinda figure i am being :Trollface:'d

and why stop replying? i'm not gonna keep defending myself forever, because i think i'v made my point already... it's you and others that keep bumping this thread; when i go to bed i'm gonna expect that this thread will be bumped again, with no one even referring to me, until someone finally does trying to start telling me how i "should act", and then i'll probably just point out how it's happening, as there is nothing really much more that can be said about this "thing" anymore.

:shrug:

this thread is just me saying that people who can't get things through their head are being retarded. i mean, all i've been told that i think is maybe relevant (to myself, at least) is that i shouldn't have been so rude or have "acted out" so much... which i can admit.

if there is anything else you think i should fess up to; like about myself or the thread topic. please let me know, so i can tie up the loose ends; i mean, i'm almost 99% certain that i got my facts on Marijuana right.


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19202127 - 11/28/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your run on sentences drive me nuts.


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19202215 - 11/28/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
continued in http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19189683#19189683
"why do the weed tards never mention weed induces or can induce schizophrenic mindstates, causes depersonlization/ derealization, social anxiety, and a host of other mental disorders and withdrawl from using weed can lead to loss of appetite, sleeplessness, and irritability"

:rolleyes:

people on DRUG FORUM can't understand that all drugs have side effects, and that psychedelic drugs (especially) and otherwise, can cause PREDISPOSITIONS for other MEDICAL CONDITIONS to arise out of their use.

why do i even bother? my explanation of the 1: idiotic hypocrisy 2: the fact of drugs having side effects and 3: the fact of medical conditions being predisposed to occur in people with those conditions...




I know i'm completely late, but you're completely wrong. psychedelics were recently found to have no connection to mental illnesses (except HPPD perhaps). further more, a study with marijuana was done in the uk where the use of the plant went up in the country, while the rate of schizophrenia stayed the same.


weed does however have a withdrawal like many psychoactive drugs.

:cheers:


Edited by StateOfMind404 (11/28/13 07:24 PM)


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: 404]
    #19202232 - 11/28/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

akira_akuma said:
continued in http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19189683#19189683
"why do the weed tards never mention weed induces or can induce schizophrenic mindstates, causes depersonlization/ derealization, social anxiety, and a host of other mental disorders and withdrawl from using weed can lead to loss of appetite, sleeplessness, and irritability"

:rolleyes:

people on DRUG FORUM can't understand that all drugs have side effects, and that psychedelic drugs (especially) and otherwise, can cause PREDISPOSITIONS for other MEDICAL CONDITIONS to arise out of their use.

why do i even bother? my explanation of the 1: idiotic hypocrisy 2: the fact of drugs having side effects and 3: the fact of medical conditions being predisposed to occur in people with those conditions...




I know i'm completely late, but you're completely wrong. psychedelics were recently found to have no connection to mental illnesses (except HPPD perhaps). further more, a study with marijuana was done in the uk where the use of the plant went up in the country, while the rate of schizophrenia stayed the same.


weed does however have a withdrawal like many psychoactive drugs however.

:cheers:




i still believe if you have enough shit in your life that is making you break down, you have bad genetics, and a bad way of thinking, you can develop mental illness with weed. ime, weed tends to keep people in 'one place' mentally almost like there not really 'growing as a person' like other sober people,. anyone else experience this phenomenon?


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Endure]
    #19202239 - 11/28/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well that is fine and all, but the data just doesn't support any of that. on another note, if you have enough stuff in your life that is making you break down, do you really think its the weed that's causing that? :whatever:


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: 404]
    #19202270 - 11/28/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well that is fine and all, but the data just doesn't support any of that. on another note, if you have enough stuff in your life that is making you break down, do you really think its the weed that's causing that? :whatever:





ive seen studies in rehab. brain scans show that weed itself can control your most mentally productive/active part of the day, (minutes before you smoke, seeing or smelling the drug, any contact through the senses will cause this spark of mood/energy.

i want to see the study your regarding, (everyone knows about drug brain scans), weed can fuck someones thinking up and lead into deeper things. especially chronic use. a thought is powerful.

so yeah, i think weed can make someone depressed for sure on its own.
my mindstate appreciates the small things when im sober.. when im high all the time, i dont appreciate shit, n all i do is want to smoke, this is common for alot of my fellow potsmokers. it can certainly give someone anxiety and make them depressed, which leads to other things.

im talking about people who smoke weed everyday and dont give themselves/there mind time to breathe and reset


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: Endure]
    #19202338 - 11/28/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560900
here's the study.


I will acknowledge that there is a lot of data regarding schizophrenia and cannabis, but i think in light of recent studies, the data might be disputed. Yes, cannabis can cause psychosis, and it can cause some life problems in this regard, but i think the severity of these problems is  perhaps a little exaggerated.


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    #19202379 - 11/28/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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StateOfMind404 said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560900
here's the study.


I will acknowledge that there is a lot of data regarding schizophrenia and cannabis, but i think in light of recent studies, the data might be disputed. Yes, cannabis can cause psychosis, and it can cause some life problems in this regard, but i think the severity of these problems is  perhaps a little exaggerated.




yes when you quit weed, but while you stay on it, it can destroy many things in someones life..


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19202405 - 11/28/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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nah, i don't think it's a joke. i think it's just trololing.

well, i guess i'm being just as trolly, as i kinda figure i am being :Trollface:'d

and why stop replying? i'm not gonna keep defending myself forever, because i think i'v made my point already... it's you and others that keep bumping this thread; when i go to bed i'm gonna expect that this thread will be bumped again, with no one even referring to me, until someone finally does trying to start telling me how i "should act", and then i'll probably just point out how it's happening, as there is nothing really much more that can be said about this "thing" anymore.

:shrug:

this thread is just me saying that people who can't get things through their head are being retarded. i mean, all i've been told that i think is maybe relevant (to myself, at least) is that i shouldn't have been so rude or have "acted out" so much... which i can admit.

if there is anything else you think i should fess up to; like about myself or the thread topic. please let me know, so i can tie up the loose ends; i mean, i'm almost 99% certain that i got my facts on Marijuana right.




You are right we are always wrong we get it. :rolleyes:


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: 404]
    #19203469 - 11/29/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

akira_akuma said:
continued in http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19189683#19189683
"why do the weed tards never mention weed induces or can induce schizophrenic mindstates, causes depersonlization/ derealization, social anxiety, and a host of other mental disorders and withdrawl from using weed can lead to loss of appetite, sleeplessness, and irritability"

:rolleyes:

people on DRUG FORUM can't understand that all drugs have side effects, and that psychedelic drugs (especially) and otherwise, can cause PREDISPOSITIONS for other MEDICAL CONDITIONS to arise out of their use.

why do i even bother? my explanation of the 1: idiotic hypocrisy 2: the fact of drugs having side effects and 3: the fact of medical conditions being predisposed to occur in people with those conditions...




I know i'm completely late, but you're completely wrong. psychedelics were recently found to have no connection to mental illnesses (except HPPD perhaps). further more, a study with marijuana was done in the uk where the use of the plant went up in the country, while the rate of schizophrenia stayed the same.


weed does however have a withdrawal like many psychoactive drugs.

:cheers:



i'm off the same opinion, so when you say i'm completely wrong, it's kinda stupid. but ok. :shrug:


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Re: anti-Marijuana Shills [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19203567 - 11/29/13 04:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think once weed is legalized and we can have more balanced strains a lot of these issues would be resolved. As we all know, they are breeding the plants for high THC concentrations and leaving the other goodies behind. With more balanced strains, the way nature intended it to be, people would experience a more mellow and forgiving high. I think people with mental illness would handle the effects much better. Without a balance in the cannabinoids the high seems really heady and not as mellow as I like. I think many people suffering from these issues related to marijuana have not been exposed to strains with high CBD concentrations and low THC concentrations.


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    #19203625 - 11/29/13 05:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Akira, you are way too easy to troll. I made a simple half sarcastic comment in someone's thread and you go  on a multiple page outburst, then make your own thread to cry in for 10 pages about how you don't even know what you're talking about.


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    #19203640 - 11/29/13 05:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Akira, you are way too easy to troll. I made a simple half sarcastic comment in someone's thread and you go  on a multiple page outburst, then make your own thread to cry in for 10 pages about how you don't even know what you're talking about.




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