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FDA want to ban trans fats completely.
    #19201062 - 11/28/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/world-our-backyard/2013/nov/12/fda-trans-fat-ban-donut-and-small-business/



there you go fda wants to  ban trans fats. apparently 1 gram a day is still too much to be consuming.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew] * 3
    #19201108 - 11/28/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i think they should get their nose out of my dinner plate.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: psyconaught] * 1
    #19201192 - 11/28/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Does anyone notice that all the Moonbats who showed up on the survey as 'non-authoritarian liberals' will be the first ones to jump on these kinds of authoritarian, dictitorial type policies and support them? :smirk:


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #19201241 - 11/28/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't have to worry, we eat very little processed food and grow most of what we eat. Have all the Trans Fats you want.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: sweeper54] * 3
    #19201284 - 11/28/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i don't eat it either but the FDA should not be telling people what they are allowed or not allowed to eat.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: psyconaught]
    #19201458 - 11/28/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well its not telling us what we can and cannot eat its just that restaurants cannot serve them to us the same way they can't sprinkle mercury on our food. i think its perfectly fine for instance does anyone complain that restaurants have to keep their food at a certain temperature or that food manufacturers can't have certain amounts of mercury or lead in their food?

no, no one does so why should something that causes cell membrane damage be any different? the only reason they use it instead of canola or non hydrogenated oils is because it cheaper (not counting fully hydrogenated which has saturated instead of trans fats)


they tried to not ban it and make companies legally obligated to list it but they found loopholes to fuck over the consumers so they had no choice but to ban it, for instance serving sizes got smaller so the trans fats were under .5 grams per serving so they could legally claim 0 grams trans fats even though no one in the world eats 1/5 of a mini chip bag


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew] * 1
    #19201524 - 11/28/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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lonelyjew said:
well its not telling us what we can and cannot eat its just that restaurants cannot serve them to us the same way they can't sprinkle mercury on our food. i think its perfectly fine for instance does anyone complain that restaurants have to keep their food at a certain temperature or that food manufacturers can't have certain amounts of mercury or lead in their food?

no, no one does so why should something that causes cell membrane damage be any different? the only reason they use it instead of canola or non hydrogenated oils is because it cheaper (not counting fully hydrogenated which has saturated instead of trans fats)


they tried to not ban it and make companies legally obligated to list it but they found loopholes to fuck over the consumers so they had no choice but to ban it, for instance serving sizes got smaller so the trans fats were under .5 grams per serving so they could legally claim 0 grams trans fats even though no one in the world eats 1/5 of a mini chip bag





:lolsy: Only a moonbat would claim to be for a free government yet want the authoritarian hand of Big Brother up the people's ass with a microscope 24-7.  LET FUCKING PEOPLE DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19201550 - 11/28/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lolsy: Only a moonbat would claim to be for a free government yet want the authoritarian hand of Big Brother up the people's ass with a microscope 24-7.  LET FUCKING PEOPLE DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES.






right so you are fine with restaurants being allowed to cook meats at whatever temperature they want and not have to tell anyone about it? are you fine with water bottle companies not testing the water for lead?
are you fine with lead paint and kids toys with lead parts?

and its not big brother its the American citizens tired of being lied to and fed a toxin regularly there isn't any study that exists that suggests even remotely that trans fats aren't harmful so we are finally doing something about it, the reason they are banning it is because thousands of doctors and other american citizens have spoken up about it you don't see people demanding they keep trans fats so the government is listening to the people.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew] * 1
    #19201587 - 11/28/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:lolsy: Only a moonbat would claim to be for a free government yet want the authoritarian hand of Big Brother up the people's ass with a microscope 24-7.  LET FUCKING PEOPLE DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES.






right so you are fine with restaurants being allowed to cook meats at whatever temperature they want and not have to tell anyone about it?




yes I am.  Why?  BECAUSE NO BUSINESS OR RESTERAUNT HAS ANY VESTED interest in doing something that will harm the consumer.  It's bad for business and they will get their ass sued. 

Do you honestly think some cook in a resteraunt thinks, 'he he, lets undercook the meat so people get sick snicker snicker'

Of course they don't. 

What is it about Moonbats that they think that everyone except the government is too stupid to think?


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19202312 - 11/28/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

alright first of all who would someone sure them it would be legal correct?


second they already do use harmful things such as trans fats that cause cell membrane damage, and no it doesn't hurt there business because none of the other business care enough to take them out either, because its cheaper and the people who are poor and can't afford quality food are forced to eat the shitty trans fat food.



and since when are the private citizens (doctors and everyone else) the government? the private citizens demannded change and they got it, they tried to force companie to atleast label them and they pulled every loop hole they could so now foods say "0g trans fat" even though some of them have partially hydrogenated oil as the second ingredient. so then the citizens wanted it banned because its just flat out poision the government listened and decided they would ban it.


do you think the government sits around thinking "hmmmm lets take away their rights by forcing billion dollar companies to take the toxic stuff out of their food muahahahahahahaha!!"






again the same thing would apply whats the difference between making them take out the toxic stuff (lead) and forcing them to label? its both interference from the government so what make any of that okay? how would we know there wasn't anything toxic in the food if there were no laws forcing them to test/list it? people forget that although the government can be corrupt the government is still made up of the people and change can be brought out but not by sitting around eating cheeto puffs and masturbating to game of thrones. and change did happen by the people who realized toxic things were in our food and the companies used loop holes to put it in there while lying and saying it wasn't.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew]
    #19202324 - 11/28/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

BECAUSE NO BUSINESS OR RESTERAUNT HAS ANY VESTED interest in doing something that will harm the consumer.

trans fats harm the consumer and there interest is because it is cheaper then using healthier oils.

its also a lot cheaper to not test water for lead and if no company did it then there would be no competition and it would go untested.


besides i want as much freedom as possible but there are limits its impossible to be completely free.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew]
    #19202336 - 11/28/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What does the TRANS mean?....:shrug:


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: jboredone]
    #19202361 - 11/28/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Trans fats are a type of unsaturated fat which is uncommon in nature but can be created artificially.

Hydrocarbons are carbon atoms with hydrogen atoms attached to them. Fats (fatty acids) contain long hydrocarbon chains. The carbon atoms in the chain can be connected by single bonds or double bonds. A double carbon–carbon bond can be either across (trans) or bent (cis).


Wikipedia^^^^^^^^


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew]
    #19202384 - 11/28/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I love this you all are worried about what your junk food is cooked in, when it's the GMOs in your food that's going to kill you a hell of a lot sooner.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: jboredone]
    #19202404 - 11/28/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The TRANS means that it is a double bond across a single molecule. Without going into a whole lot of detail, Trans UNSATURATED (less hydrogen) fats are able to pack together easier than SATURATED fats (lots of Hydrogen) and therefor are able to build up easier and create plaque that lines your arteries and veins.

Trans (across)              vs                Cis (bent)

C=H=C                                          C=H
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                                                            C


Also Trans unsaturated fats are not commonly found in nature whereas Cis are common in natural sources of fatty acids..so do you really want to injest Trans fat? Especially since it raises levels of bad cholesterol and reduces good cholesterol.

Want more information? I'm sure google has the finer details covered a lot better


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew]
    #19202420 - 11/28/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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alright first of all who would someone sure them it would be legal correct?


second they already do use harmful things such as trans fats that cause cell membrane damage, and no it doesn't hurt there business because none of the other business care enough to take them out either, because its cheaper and the people who are poor and can't afford quality food are forced to eat the shitty trans fat food.



and since when are the private citizens (doctors and everyone else) the government? the private citizens demannded change and they got it, they tried to force companie to atleast label them and they pulled every loop hole they could so now foods say "0g trans fat" even though some of them have partially hydrogenated oil as the second ingredient. so then the citizens wanted it banned because its just flat out poision the government listened and decided they would ban it.


do you think the government sits around thinking "hmmmm lets take away their rights by forcing billion dollar companies to take the toxic stuff out of their food muahahahahahahaha!!"






again the same thing would apply whats the difference between making them take out the toxic stuff (lead) and forcing them to label? its both interference from the government so what make any of that okay? how would we know there wasn't anything toxic in the food if there were no laws forcing them to test/list it? people forget that although the government can be corrupt the government is still made up of the people and change can be brought out but not by sitting around eating cheeto puffs and masturbating to game of thrones. and change did happen by the people who realized toxic things were in our food and the companies used loop holes to put it in there while lying and saying it wasn't.





You missed my point entirely.  In the end you are for a big, bloated federal government up the ass of citizens 24-7 with a microscope. 

Let me tell you something.  Maybe you are too stupid to think for yourself, but I'm not. 

Oh, by the way--animal fat, supposedly so bad for you?  That is what the human body is designed and adapted to ingest.  If people take too much of it in that's their own fault.  And some runty little fucking government asshole with an inspection sheet and an agenda isn't going to change it.


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: sweeper54]
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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: lonelyjew]
    #19202438 - 11/28/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Trans fats are a type of unsaturated fat which is uncommon in nature but can be created artificially.

Hydrocarbons are carbon atoms with hydrogen atoms attached to them. Fats (fatty acids) contain long hydrocarbon chains. The carbon atoms in the chain can be connected by single bonds or double bonds. A double carbon–carbon bond can be either across (trans) or bent (cis).


Wikipedia^^^^^^^^




I'll bet mayor bloomberg's agenda gives you a boner. :smirk:


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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19202480 - 11/28/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: FDA want to ban trans fats completely. [Re: sweeper54]
    #19202506 - 11/28/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Smart people dont eat trans fat. If I eat a lot it clogs up my system real fast. Basically they are garbage and dangerous.  You have to be a moonbat to eat them.


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