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36fuckin5
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Violet]
#19203002 - 11/28/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fair enough, but I'll say keep this account for 15 years, then tell me what you've learned.
Sometimes aggravation from people refusing to learn from your mistakes, instead of making those mistakes themselves, get to you, especially when you've been there, done that, and couldn't affor the T-shirt cause your whole project failed.
If it works for you, do it. But I'm telling you, I've done way more than I admit on here, and if you don't notice I don't produce pics or admit yields over the long-term. Yes, waste can be a problem, and you've gotten mostly around that, but looking at it dollar-in to dollar-out, even charging minimal prices (cause I only sell half-legit edibles to local shady restaurants) my methods make the most sense.
I get experimentation, but you seem to have done one set of experiments and got set in your ways. I've had experimentals tubs, trays, bags, Tupperware, etc going for the last decade, and still do. I get set in my ways because they're the most efficient for me, and work in every single environment. I always still have 1 or 2 experimental tubs at all times.
Again, growing mushrooms is not a real science yet. What works for you works for you. But my methods work reliably for everyone, every time.
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Violet



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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19203056 - 11/28/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: Fair enough, but I'll say keep this account for 15 years,
Wish I could but unfortunately with the continuing revelations about the changes of the digital era it will be a surprise if I upkeep this account another whole year, and honestly I suggest as much for many people here.
Past that, I agree, "Fair enough"!
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anne halonium
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Violet]
#19203624 - 11/29/13 05:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thing is 36f, pros can do anything. if you and roger for instance, suggested about anything, id be like " cool". why? cuz you guys are informed experienced pros.
serious pros, really cant go wrong, because, they " garden engineered "it all with forethought.
pros can use pony beer bottles, and shoe boxes lined with plastic and rule. skill does indeed trump equipment.
thing is, not all growers are pros, and there seems to be 2 schools of grow. one school , is the lab growers , the other the barn growers. one type urban, one type rural. both have advantages and disadvantages.
in the case of the rural growers , both pro and otherwise, equipment needs may be more forgiving, as the dynanmic allows for more options, and operating space.
urban growers, have space, time, noise, smell , heat , energy and power considerations. equipment , can be a BIG deal to urban growers. it can make the difference in total crop and handling.
my teks, and the angle i take, is to enhance the urban lab grower, giving them the teks, to compete/ exceed with the rural bulkers .
once again, equip does not trump skill. however, best choices of equipment , make a BIG deal in ALL the factors, associated with an urban grow op.
LED light, makes unusual grow spaces possible, with low heat and low power, and more stealthy,
culture bottles, make labs durable, safe and silent, and solves many handling issues.
PP5, durable , safe, silent, stackable, cheap, and also easily handled.
AA cookers, durable and reliable.
blue light, low power, low heat , low IR. durability, stealth.
point is, equip matters to some. it can make a difference. id still be able to operate , as any pro would, if i didnt have anything but ad hoc basics, but, in an urban environment, proper equip, enables the mega grow, with way less hassle or downsides. certian equip, does make handling and stealth enhanced.
contrary to popular belief, im not out to convert bulkers. im out to enhance urban lab growers, and enhance small lab growers ops.
i dont recall ever telling anyone , how to run their barn grow. why would i? ...... what i dont get , why barn peeps, think they can tell me how to run my lab? its 2 different types of grows.
my thing, is about info. the informed ,,with lots of choices , have best grow engineering. no matter what environment or methods chosen.
bulkers, wont go extinct cuz of anything i ever do. they may find, however, that urban lab growers gain influence and clout, as new teks, and new equip options, become more common.
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Violet said: fact is I do far more now with far less, and am not fighting contams or environment or disposal or whatever anymore. It's all a breeze, growing like a dream. Sometimes it's even a little hard to believe that growing so powerfully and effectively can be so small and simple.
^ this, is what the team annie difference, is all about. realizing, the teks and equip, AND skill, can make a difference.
in the new age we should expect alot.
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Edited by anne halonium (11/29/13 03:27 PM)
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Gloogloos
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: anne halonium]
#19204116 - 11/29/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is fun, a whole lot of ideas and opinions, thank you.
Here is another consideration about the disposables, you guys are arguing the worth of them, and I have been reading a lot of threads and posts discussing the effect of throwing away so many plastic dishes. Many say its irrelevant, I personally disagree, but, as RogerRabbit has said in many other threads, he donates them to schools and what not.
As an illegitimate mycologist, I can't just appear out of nowhere to a school and donate 100 plastic petri dishes on a fairly regular basis, its also weird for me to have those in my trashcan on a fairly regular basis.
With the reusable ones, be them dishes or jars or bottles or whatever, I don't have to worry about to disposing them, which is a huge plus for me and I am sure many others.
Just a thought, feel free to continue arguing, its all very educating.
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anne halonium
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Gloogloos]
#19204195 - 11/29/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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glad to be of assistance. information, education, awareness of choices, and adjusting to the grow environment at hand, is the key to it all.
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pseeker
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: anne halonium]
#21015233 - 12/23/14 01:03 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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we use plastic
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Mr. Alien
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: pseeker]
#21015256 - 12/23/14 01:16 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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mrbart4444
The mycelium whisperer


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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21015295 - 12/23/14 01:39 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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i like plastic. The glass are reusealble though?
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: mrbart4444]
#21015306 - 12/23/14 01:47 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah reusable means you have to clean them and re-esterilize them. :fuckthatshit:
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mrbart4444
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21015313 - 12/23/14 01:51 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea put they would be idea for a no pour.
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Kizzle
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21015621 - 12/23/14 06:37 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mr. Alien said: yeah reusable means you have to clean them and re-esterilize them. :fuckthatshit:
You make it sound like that's a lot of work. It takes maybe 5 seconds to clean out a dish and a couple more seconds to reach over and set it on the rack of my toaster oven.
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Kizzle]
#21015756 - 12/23/14 07:51 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was using pre-sterilized plastic petris and they worked great, the only draw back was I wasn't ordering enough to keep up with inoculations, transfers, etc.
I found 14 glass petris for cheap - like $12 USD, shipped. Though I'm down to about 10 after a couple shattered. Cleaning and sterilizing isn't a big deal, after cleaning, I wrap them in foil an PC them along with the agar bottle.
IMO, one really isn't much better than the other; though I think I'd be better off ordering 500 plastic petris and be good for a year, as PussyFart mentioned.
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Kizzle]
#21015773 - 12/23/14 07:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kizzle said:
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Mr. Alien said: yeah reusable means you have to clean them and re-esterilize them. :fuckthatshit:
You make it sound like that's a lot of work. It takes maybe 5 seconds to clean out a dish and a couple more seconds to reach over and set it on the rack of my toaster oven.

I remember this thread. It was fun.
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Kizzle
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: mycomattie]
#21018881 - 12/23/14 08:15 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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How did they shatter?
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Kizzle]
#21019349 - 12/23/14 10:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kizzle said:
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Mr. Alien said: yeah reusable means you have to clean them and re-esterilize them. :fuckthatshit:
You make it sound like that's a lot of work. It takes maybe 5 seconds to clean out a dish and a couple more seconds to reach over and set it on the rack of my toaster oven.
Even after cleaning them... wasting energy in the PC just to re-esterilize them empty?
If I'm cleaning dishes after using them it better be a no pour method like Pastywhyte Tek or similar. Glass petri dishes don't save that much money if you take into account that you have to re-esterilize them empty after cleaning them.
They may be money savers if you have a big esterilizer were you can sterilize hundreds of them in one shot.
just my two cents... But yeah i'm lazy
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21019515 - 12/23/14 10:54 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even after cleaning them... wasting energy in the PC just to re-esterilize them empty?
Do them at the same as your jars. No extra energy needed then.
I like the toaster oven though. I can disinfect the surface they'll be sitting on in it at the same time not to mention the handles for my blades and inoculation loop. Now if I could just find some reusable glove that could stand up to dry heat sterilization I would be set
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: anne halonium]
#21019597 - 12/23/14 11:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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anne halonium said: glad to be of assistance. information, education, awareness of choices, and adjusting to the grow environment at hand, is the key to it all.
operators are standing by.............
thank god its just an old thread....my heart stopped for a sec
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Kizzle]
#21020329 - 12/24/14 07:48 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kizzle said: How did they shatter?
Just from me mishandling them or dropping a lid or bottom.
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Kizzle
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21034021 - 12/28/14 03:01 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mr. Alien said:
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Kizzle said:
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Mr. Alien said: yeah reusable means you have to clean them and re-esterilize them. :fuckthatshit:
You make it sound like that's a lot of work. It takes maybe 5 seconds to clean out a dish and a couple more seconds to reach over and set it on the rack of my toaster oven.
Even after cleaning them... wasting energy in the PC just to re-esterilize them empty?
If I'm cleaning dishes after using them it better be a no pour method like Pastywhyte Tek or similar. Glass petri dishes don't save that much money if you take into account that you have to re-esterilize them empty after cleaning them.
They may be money savers if you have a big esterilizer were you can sterilize hundreds of them in one shot.
just my two cents... But yeah i'm lazy 
Based on this it could easily be a cent a piece or less to oven sterilize them.
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Re: Glass vs Plastic petri dishes, cant decide [Re: Kizzle]
#21034069 - 12/28/14 03:42 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kizzle yeah i saw your tek about sterilizing petri dishes in the oven, pretty cool.
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