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SpitballJedi
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WBS vs Rye Berries
#19200453 - 11/28/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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WBS vs Rye Berries
This is just a simple journal entry to discuss WBS vs Rye Berries. I mostly did it to sort out my thoughts, but then decided to post it.
Cost: Cost is based on a quart jar being 2/3 to 3/4 full of hydrated grain.
WBS
$8.69 for 20#. That's (.4345/lb) = (.027/oz).
1 dry quart weighs (23.3oz). I use 4 dry quarts for 1 monotub.
4*(23.3oz) = (93.2oz) (93.2oz)*(.027/oz)=$2.52 per monotub
Rye Berries
$62.50 for 50#. That's (1.25/lb) = (.078/oz)
1 dry quart weighs (25.3oz). I use 2.5 dry quarts for 1 monotub
(2.5)*(25.3oz)=(63.25oz) (63.25oz)*(.078/oz)= $4.93 per monotub
$2.52 per tub for WBS vs $3.16 per monotub for Rye. WBS is 4.94-2.52= $2.42 cheaper per monotub than Rye.
Obviously, prices will vary depending on accessibility and/or brands. I am currently building a spread sheet that will make it easy to just punch in some numbers to make it easy to decide which is cheaper. PM me if you are interested.
Pros and Cons
WBS:
Pros Cheaper Does not require cooking, boiling, simmering, steam drying Higher number of inoculation points, so maybe you can use less Easy to find without special ordering
Cons Small grains clog my colander and makes it a little more of PITA to wash afterwards Requires more rinsing because it's filthy Has more foreign debris I've never seen organic WBS
Rye Berries
Pros Doesn't clog my colander Can obtain organic Usually clean in 3 rinses
Cons More expensive, especially organic For best results, requires boiling and then steam drying Has a noticeable smell when boiling, but not bad. Some people don't like it Harder to find in some places and may require special ordering
These opinions and numbers are based on my personal experience where I live.
I just recently started WBS. I've always used Rye before. I think I'm becoming a convert.
What are some pros and cons I missed?
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Edited by SpitballJedi (11/29/13 05:56 AM)
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i rather prep rye but its just cost so much to wbs and they both do great no matter what soo
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I get my rye waay cheaper than WBS. I'll stick with rye.
I love millet or milo but they are waay too pricy.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: bootster]
#19200496 - 11/28/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i wish i could get rye cheaper
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how much of that weight do you lose from the wbs after the sunflour seeds and other crap, my pile is pretty big after a batch and almost makes the price the same
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Luckily I only pay $40 for 50# of rye, and even though that's still more than WBS (though decent WBS is about $23 - $27 for 40# in my area) I find the easier prep worthwhile.
I would add the following to your lists. Rye IME hydrates faster usually 16 hour soak is more than sufficient, whereas I usually find the smaller grains like millet need longer.
I would say that WBS's extra nock points do help speed colonization times after a first shake, allowing masters to be shaken sooner 25% is usually good, where I need to wait for 35% with rye.
These are just things I noticed in general and nothing has been tested definitively with isolates. Maybe one day I will do some side by sides to find out for sure.
Edited by Pastywhyte (11/28/13 12:28 PM)
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: cronicr]
#19200765 - 11/28/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: how much of that weight do you lose from the wbs after the sunflour seeds and other crap, my pile is pretty big after a batch and almost makes the price the same
My WBS locally is $14 for 40#.
Rye locally is a $35 for 40#.
I don't think I could possibly throw away 2/3 of the bag worth of seeds and crap
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cronicr said: how much of that weight do you lose from the wbs after the sunflour seeds and other crap, my pile is pretty big after a batch and almost makes the price the same
My WBS locally is $14 for 40#.
Rye locally is a $35 for 40#.
I don't think I could possibly throw away 2/3 of the bag worth of seeds and crap 
 i pay more for my wbs and only 25 bux for my rye, i can find cheaper wbs but the last time the grains were shit so i'm now paying about 50 cents a pound
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: cronicr]
#19200782 - 11/28/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: cronicr]
#19201035 - 11/28/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: how much of that weight do you lose from the wbs after the sunflour seeds and other crap, my pile is pretty big after a batch and almost makes the price the same
It doesn't matter. A 20# bag is still a 20# bag and there is a finite number of quarts in it. No matter when I pick out the seeds, they still have to be figured in to the cost.
I end up having to scoop out 4 qts of WBS, then scoop out the seeds to get the same volume as rye.
Some brands may have more or less sunflower seeds.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: bootster]
#19201159 - 11/28/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bootster said: I get my rye waay cheaper than WBS. I'll stick with rye.
You get rye for less than 35 cents a pound?
Home Depot - $0.35 a pound.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: PussyFart]
#19201511 - 11/28/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of the problems I've run into with wbs is its unpredictability. You can buy 2 bags of the same brand and one will be great and the other will be a bunch of sunflowers and twigs. Some bags are also full of those little white seeds that get all mashed up after you hydrate them and barely touch them
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Stromrider said: One of the problems I've run into with wbs is its unpredictability. You can buy 2 bags of the same brand and one will be great and the other will be a bunch of sunflowers and twigs. Some bags are also full of those little white seeds that get all mashed up after you hydrate them and barely touch them
I think you guys worry too much about this 
I buy my 40# bags 10 at a time. Anything that can come out during the rinsing, does so. Anything that remains has never caused me an issue
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WBS is cheaper and gets the job done, as far as sunflower seeds, the shrooms colonize them very quickly, and the oily seed makes them a good food source for the shrooms. Cased sunflower seed alone will grow decent shrooms.
The only advantage of rye is the consistency for big spawn to bulk projects and the relative ease of use.
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Stromrider said: Some bags are also full of those little white seeds that get all mashed up after you hydrate them and barely touch them
You must mean Millet.... the best grain in birdseed.
It only happens to you because you're over-preparing them. It's not entirely your fault though, the many different sizes of grains in "birdseed" mixes require different hydrating soak/boil times of course. IMO this is one of birdseed's cons, which Spitball didn't list.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Violet]
#19201840 - 11/28/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Violet said: You must mean Millet.... the best grain in birdseed.
I agree. I have a big bag of millet and sometimes I will soak and add some to my rye jars when I'm doing masters. I just prep it separate from my rye to keep it from exploding and get the moisture content right. Really helps speed the master and receiving jars up.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Violet]
#19201862 - 11/28/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That was one of the first cons I noticed. The little tiny ones turn to mush real easy.
I didn't list it because I quit cooking WBS. I just soak for about 20-24 hours and drain for a couple of hours.
They seem wet when they go in the jar, but seem perfect after sterilizing and shaking.
This turned a con in to a pro.
Like I said, I just started WBS, so I don't know how consistently the "no cook" method will work.
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I don't cook it. I just heat it long enough to get the water hot so the water will evaporate off better
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Update to OP:
WBS Con If simmering, the millet turns to mush real easy.
Rye Pro Uniformity in grain size and texture makes for consistent results
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: PussyFart]
#19201904 - 11/28/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bootster said: I get my rye waay cheaper than WBS. I'll stick with rye.
You get rye for less than 35 cents a pound?
Home Depot - $0.35 a pound.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wagner-s-Farmer-s-Delight-40-lb-Wild-Bird-Food-53005/202564396#.UmndFfnWSaI
A 20 lb bag of WBS at wallyworld was $19.99 56 lbs of rye costs me $18. Two years ago it was $12 for the same 56 lb bag. It is 15 min. up the road to pick it up.
Edited by bootster (11/28/13 06:24 PM)
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SpitballJedi said: WBS Con If simmering, the millet turns to mush real easy.
Rye Pro Uniformity in grain size and texture makes for consistent results
I disagree. I simmer/boil my WBS these days, for about 5 minutes.
To be honest, I've never had an issue with burst millet or anything that hinders "consistent results."
Like I said, I think you guys all worry too much about your grains
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You're probably right frank. You usually are and we all hate you for it
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Well I'm not always right so don't forget to challenge me 
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Damn my thanksgiving was over a month ago, now I want turkey
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Opinions are welcome. That's why I posted.
I dumped my first 3 attempts because I kept getting too much mush. I may just be too used to rye though. But I PC'd them and they just seemed sticky.
I never brought the water to a boil. I tried slow heating, stirring and not stirring.
No simmer seems to by-pass the whole issue and it's one less step. I hope it continues to work. I'm on my 3rd no-simmer run and it seems like it's working.
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ive been using wheat for ages its pretty cheap here 18bux for 50lb i put it in a pot with water on low for about 2 hours (cuz im lazy and dont wanna watch it simmer around 30-45min if u simmer) strain 30 and pop in PC
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Quote:
SpitballJedi said: That was one of the first cons I noticed. The little tiny ones turn to mush real easy. I didn't list it because I quit cooking WBS. I just soak for about 20-24 hours and drain for a couple of hours. They seem wet when they go in the jar, but seem perfect after sterilizing and shaking. This turned a con in to a pro. Like I said, I just started WBS, so I don't know how consistently the "no cook" method will work.
"Turning a con into a pro", using the moisture on the grains to supply the rest in the cooker, That's exactly how I started doing grass seed leading to my 2nd grain prep method, but found they'd often be under-prepared without a hard flash of wet heat to start the soak off. Might not be a problem with Millet which bursts easily with little cooking; little grass seeds are much much more hardy. However I've seen people mention that no-cook preps, using birdseed or rye, resulted in under-prepared grains that didn't yield as much. Hopefully you'll do better. Here's betting that keeping extended soaks avoids any problems.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Violet]
#19203018 - 11/28/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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From the OP:
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$62.50 for 50#. That's (.80/lb) = (.05/oz)
You did the math wrong, $62~/50lb should be more than a dollar/lb, try it the other way 
And, what Frank said. Y'all worries too much about grains. Go with price. I really, really wish I could get rye in 50lb bags for a couple lbs/buck. Where you guys find this stuff?!?!
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Violet]
#19203618 - 11/29/13 05:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: Some bags are also full of those little white seeds that get all mashed up after you hydrate them and barely touch them
You must mean Millet.... the best grain in birdseed.
It only happens to you because you're over-preparing them. It's not entirely your fault though, the many different sizes of grains in "birdseed" mixes require different hydrating soak/boil times of course. IMO this is one of birdseed's cons, which Spitball didn't list.
I love the condescending assumption that if he is having a problem he is doing something wrong. But it is not entirely all his fault though.....
I know which seed you mean man, and they are not Millet I will go get the name later, it is cold outside.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Sockadin]
#19203621 - 11/29/13 05:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn right it's freezing! I'm getting ready to go cut some firewood. Guess I'll have to break out the long Johns
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Forrester]
#19203686 - 11/29/13 05:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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$62.50 for 50#. That's (.80/lb) = (.05/oz)
You did the math wrong, $62~/50lb should be more than a dollar/lb, try it the other way 
And, what Frank said. Y'all worries too much about grains. Go with price. I really, really wish I could get rye in 50lb bags for a couple lbs/buck. Where you guys find this stuff?!?!
Good eye. I fixed. WBS is even cheaper now that the math is right
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Sockadin]
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Stromrider said: Some bags are also full of those little white seeds that get all mashed up after you hydrate them and barely touch them
You must mean Millet.... the best grain in birdseed.
It only happens to you because you're over-preparing them. It's not entirely your fault though, the many different sizes of grains in "birdseed" mixes require different hydrating soak/boil times of course. IMO this is one of birdseed's cons, which Spitball didn't list.
I love the condescending assumption that if he is having a problem he is doing something wrong. But it is not entirely all his fault though.....
I'm not being condescending, and you're making the assumption. Is it really not fair to acknowledge that improperly-prepared grains are improperly prepared?
He sure didn't seem to take the so-called condescention to heart like you did on his behalf. Geez.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Violet]
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I think you guys worry too much about this 
I buy my 40# bags 10 at a time. Anything that can come out during the rinsing, does so. Anything that remains has never caused me an issue 
I agree.
And if I may question this ... What exactly is so bad about the sunflower seeds? I read post after post that they should be removed, but nothing as to why? If they pour off, they pour off, what remains has never been a problem for me. Even if I dont pour them off I don't see a problem. I've seen pics of mushies grown on Bibles and even bras ( eyes still burning after that one ) so why not a few sunflower seeds? So, someone please explain the "OMG, gotta get rid of those" thing concerning sunflower seeds, because I just don't see it.
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some people take them out some dont i do they really dont make a differance
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I just dont like having black stuff in my jars lol.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: Valyr]
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: PussyFart]
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: cronicr]
#19204548 - 11/29/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I prefer rye berry it just seems like its easier to get prepped
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: bootster]
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bootster said: I get my rye waay cheaper than WBS. I'll stick with rye.
You get rye for less than 35 cents a pound?
Home Depot - $0.35 a pound.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wagner-s-Farmer-s-Delight-40-lb-Wild-Bird-Food-53005/202564396#.UmndFfnWSaI
A 20 lb bag of WBS at wallyworld was $19.99 56 lbs of rye costs me $18. Two years ago it was $12 for the same 56 lb bag. It is 15 min. up the road to pick it up.
I know prices vary per location, but are you sure that's right? Near me a 20# WW wbs is 9$ and a 40# bag is about 17. Never used Rye, but I'm pretty sure I'd prefer it if I could get it if only for the consistency. It seems like every bag is aways different with wbs and especially depending upon how much corn is in it you really have to be careful with your simmering/boiling or it will very quickly turn into a sticky mess.
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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: PussyFart]
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Valyr said: I just dont like having black stuff in my jars lol.
Racist.....
Damn Straight! Sig Heil mofo! Or however the heck you spell that lol.
Nah just kiddin. American history x may be one of my fav movies but its not cause of the mongrels blood song I swear .
I really am just kiddin though . I actually dont think Im prejudiced in much anyway really. Race, religion, sexual preference, etc. It takes all kinds right?
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SpitballJedi
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I remove them because it seems like they would crack open at some point. If the inside is not colonized, then it's a possible contam vector if it cracks open while spawning. Unless of course this is just another myth.
They are super easy to scoop out because they float. I didn't know some people left them in.
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bootster

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bootster said: I get my rye waay cheaper than WBS. I'll stick with rye.
You get rye for less than 35 cents a pound?
Home Depot - $0.35 a pound.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Wagner-s-Farmer-s-Delight-40-lb-Wild-Bird-Food-53005/202564396#.UmndFfnWSaI
A 20 lb bag of WBS at wallyworld was $19.99 56 lbs of rye costs me $18. Two years ago it was $12 for the same 56 lb bag. It is 15 min. up the road to pick it up.
I know prices vary per location, but are you sure that's right? Near me a 20# WW wbs is 9$ and a 40# bag is about 17. Never used Rye, but I'm pretty sure I'd prefer it if I could get it if only for the consistency. It seems like every bag is aways different with wbs and especially depending upon how much corn is in it you really have to be careful with your simmering/boiling or it will very quickly turn into a sticky mess.
I couldn't believe it myself but I was almost out of rye and said WTF, I'll check wally world and asked the attendant to do a price check. I don't know why I was even in there. I usually don't use the term "hate", but I hate that store.
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PirateSwazey



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Re: WBS vs Rye Berries [Re: bootster]
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I used WBS for about a year and switched to rye a few weeks ago. Main reason being that WBS is pretty finicky... it liked to slime up on me if I didn't prepare it just perfectly. Now I've used RR's rye prep method a few times and things are working out a lot better for me. As far as choosing a 'best choice' between the two, as they say it's just personal preference.
I have to go out of my way to get the rye, but at the moment I'm diggin it.
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SpitballJedi
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I agree, rye seems really nice. But WBS is soooo much cheaper. And if this no-cook method keeps working, then it is easier to prep, too
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crackacola
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Rye grain is $22 for 50-55lb bag here.
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