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So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis...
    #19200152 - 11/28/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The other day I had a very negative experience with spice and 25i-nBOME. I have since attempted to smoke cannabis without being under the influence of any other drugs and the same effect happened, to a lesser extent. I don't know what has happened to my body, but it seems like I can no longer handle cannabis in any form. I am at a loss for what to do. I have been using cannabinoids daily for 9 years in the evening. I refuse to cross addict to alcohol or some other drug. I went to a 12 step meeting and shared my plight last night and didn't get much help. I having not enjoyed playing video games for years. How can I cope with this change in life? I am almost on the verge of becoming religious or at least going through the motions of a religious person because I simply don't know how else to make friends or find answers or feel okay about where my life is going anymore.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19200183 - 11/28/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just quit smoking for awhile dude, I can't smoke for an entire year.

go back to it in a couple months and I'm sure you'll be fine.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19200189 - 11/28/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Find some kind of creative activity to get you going.  Music, writing, drawing.  What kind of arts did you do as a kid that brought you enjoyment but that you've stopped doing over the years as you got into gaming and drugs?  Do that.

And yeah, take a 6-12 month break from the weed.  In all likelihood you'll be able to come back to it later and enjoy it.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19200194 - 11/28/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

25i and spice?


What a terrible sounding combo.
Sorry you've flipped some switches the wrong way. You should not be smoking spice, period.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19200199 - 11/28/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if change for better, always keep eye on the positive that comes about.  make it easy for oneself.  if you are in control of this body and it's function, sail smoothly, fly high.  when set mind for goal is as in cruz control.  only yourself will knock of course.

I suggest stay away from 12 steps and such.  trying to analyze, looping the mind round and round something of no big thing, along with others looping thoughts around and around is more as hitting your head on a wall over and over again.  Instead, occupy your time with some other activity.  Jogging, yoga, meditation, arts, reading, are a few of the many to name.  Drink tea, be happy.

If you care for book recommendations. many to share on all sorts of topics, just name a topic.

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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19200203 - 11/28/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Find some kind of creative activity to get you going.  Music, writing, drawing.  What kind of arts did you do as a kid that brought you enjoyment but that you've stopped doing over the years as you got into gaming and drugs?  Do that.

And yeah, take a 6-12 month break from the weed.  In all likelihood you'll be able to come back to it later and enjoy it.



I am a good writer but my creativity has been killed by academia. All my writing is formulaic scientific academic stuff. I almost feel like writing anything else is a waste of time anymore. Same with music and art. Feels like a waste of time unless it's recognized. Is that sick?

BTW I'm not into gaming, haven't been in like 8 years.

I'm a good singer. In fact a church recently I was asked to lead singing in front of the congregation of over 300. Maybe I could develop that talent. I always thought it would be cool to be a vocalist for a band. I can't play any instruments though.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #19200207 - 11/28/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

By spice are you referring to DMT or JWH?


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19200214 - 11/28/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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25i and spice?


What a terrible sounding combo.
Sorry you've flipped some switches the wrong way. You should not be smoking spice, period.



I have combined the two at least a dozen times before without any issues, but with the brand I smoked last night, which I believe contained AM-2201, and the high dose of 25i that I was on, something very bad happened. I was praying for my life, I felt that death was imminent moreso than any other time in my life.

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By spice are you referring to DMT or JWH?




An unknown synthetic cannabinoid.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19200215 - 11/28/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say do what feels right for you. I would suggest taking a break from mind altering substances in general for a bit. Sounds like you've overdone it a bit. I would recommend taking up meditation, or yoga, or even some kinda sport or activity that occupies and challenges your mind. Even going for long walks can be very healing.

If joining a church seems like the thing to do, why not? Could be a good place to meet some nice people who aren't solely into partying and drugs and stuff.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #19200219 - 11/28/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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if change for better, always keep eye on the positive that comes about.  make it easy for oneself.  if you are in control of this body and it's function, sail smoothly, fly high.  when set mind for goal is as in cruz control.  only yourself will knock of course.

I suggest stay away from 12 steps and such.  trying to analyze, looping the mind round and round something of no big thing, along with others looping thoughts around and around is more as hitting your head on a wall over and over again.  Instead, occupy your time with some other activity.  Jogging, yoga, meditation, arts, reading, are a few of the many to name.  Drink tea, be happy.

If you care for book recommendations. many to share on all sorts of topics, just name a topic.

peaceLove



I think exercise is definitely a good idea. I've been wanting to start working out again anyway, I was really in shape a year ago and I've slowly gotten out of shape as academic pressures have overtaken my life. I have to start teaching a university level class next semester and I have been worried about whether or not I was going to be able to do it while smoking every night anyway, so perhaps this was serendipitous.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: T-Rex]
    #19200220 - 11/28/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

that church gig sounds like something you would be interested in, having mention such.  of course you could develop that talent you seek.  give it a go.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19200225 - 11/28/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Even going for long walks can be very healing.

If joining a church seems like the thing to do, why not? Could be a good place to meet some nice people who aren't solely into partying and drugs and stuff.


I take my dog for a 3 mile walk every day and I go to church every Sunday but I am thinking about increasing both of those activities, to start jogging and going to church like 3 times a week.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: morrowasted]
    #19200249 - 11/28/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sounds good and as you know what you want to do for the benefit of you and the others around.  feeding into your own inner light helps other as you shining bright.  if we are all sailboats out at sea looking for the lighthouse, everyone of us can help guide to harbor.


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #19200275 - 11/28/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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if change for better, always keep eye on the positive that comes about.  make it easy for oneself.  if you are in control of this body and it's function, sail smoothly, fly high.  when set mind for goal is as in cruz control.  only yourself will knock of course.

I suggest stay away from 12 steps and such.  trying to analyze, looping the mind round and round something of no big thing, along with others looping thoughts around and around is more as hitting your head on a wall over and over again.  Instead, occupy your time with some other activity.  Jogging, yoga, meditation, arts, reading, are a few of the many to name.  Drink tea, be happy.

If you care for book recommendations. many to share on all sorts of topics, just name a topic.

peaceLove




I agree that 12 steps are bad news, they replace dependency on drugs/alcohol with depndency on the 12 step program, they only work for people who have utterly no self control and need to be manipulated into positive behavior.  Be your own master.  Some meditation/yoga might help if you need to focus/clear your mind.

Don't let the establishment crush your creative drive, as Vonnegut said "Practicing an art, no matter how well or badly, is a way to make your soul grow, for heaven's sake. Sing in the shower. Dance to the radio. Tell stories. Write a poem to a friend, even a lousy poem. Do it as well as you possibly can. You will get an enormous reward. You will have created something."

I write and am trying to get my stuff published, it's a frustrating process but you learn and get feedback from editors, if you stick with it long enough you might actually get to the point where you do get recognized.  If you don't start writing and getting your stuff out there then you'll certainly never be recognized.  The thing is, recognition can come post-posthumously or last 15 minutes and plunge you back to obscurity, so it's best to just create for yourself, your own growth as a human being and if you happen to make a name for yourself in the process, then cool, but it's more akin to winning the lottery than to actually being great, because a lot of famous artists are shit and a lot of great artists die in obscurity.  :shrug:


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: ModestMouse]
    #19200289 - 11/28/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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25i and spice?


What a terrible sounding combo.
Sorry you've flipped some switches the wrong way. You should not be smoking spice, period.




Couldn't have said it any better, that stuff is nasty! And mixed with 25i... I'm not sure why one would think that sounds like a good time. Not a fan of either of those substances...


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Re: So it looks like I have to quit smoking cannabis... [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19200297 - 11/28/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

^ well said.


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