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poisoned?
    #19199766 - 11/28/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

wasn't too sure where to post this question. but, i was wondering if there were any cyan psilocybe lookalikes that could cause gastro intestinal upset after 30 hours. I woke up in the morning, the second day after tripping, with a temperature and vomited 3 times throughout the first day, and once today. i did also have a sore throat and blocked sinuses, which made me think it was a virus of some kind rather than poisoning.

My girlfriend tripped with me and she felt fine. I'm very careful when collecting them. but thought i'd better check on here just incase my liver is about to pack up or something. :eek:


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Re: poisoned? [Re: ThePump]
    #19199810 - 11/28/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Some Galerina can look almost identical to cyans and grow in the same habitat at the same time.
Did you spore print all of them?
Did you have any diarrhea?
I'm not trying to worry you,just stating some facts.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19199819 - 11/28/13 08:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

honestly, with vomoting and a fever...you should go to the hospital anway.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: bloodworm]
    #19199822 - 11/28/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: poisoned? [Re: bloodworm]
    #19199825 - 11/28/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i didn't spore print all of them no. I feel fine now, seems like it has passed. but maybe i'll get down to the doc just to be safe. thanks


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19199829 - 11/28/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It sounds like you got sick rather than poisoned.
Happy to hear you are feeling better.


Edited by pseudotsuga (11/28/13 08:47 AM)


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Re: poisoned? [Re: pseudotsuga]
    #19199856 - 11/28/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that you sounded sick...
not necessarily from from myshrooms.
but, with vomiting and fevers...it's better safe than sorry, imo.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: ThePump]
    #19199861 - 11/28/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Doesn't sound likely that your symptoms came from mushroom poisoning, given
the time from ingestion until you got sick. What did you eat between tripping and
sickness?


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Anglerfish] * 1
    #19199869 - 11/28/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Amatoxin poisoning can take upto 24 hours for symptoms to appear, symptoms can then dissapear but you're liver and organs are still dying.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #19199883 - 11/28/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

think i had fried eggs for lunch and spagetti and meatballs for dinner. spent a long time outside in the cold weather as well, making it easier for an illness to take hold. It was minumum 30 hours after eating the mushrooms, more likely about 37 hours. no stomach cramps or diarrhea.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: ThePump]
    #19199912 - 11/28/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think with the lack of stomach cramps and diarrhea we can rule out mushroom poisoning.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19199925 - 11/28/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for all the replies. Think i'm probably ok, but i'm going to drop into the doc's tomorrow morning just to be on the safe side!


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #19199958 - 11/28/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP should get some liver values checked. ALT, AlkPh, Bill Just saying Classic Amanita toxicity is  delayed and can be mild to sever gastric issues such as the OP described. Depends on the amount ingested, In this case probably no big deal though. Ether way you will know in time. It can take up to three weeks before you really start having issues with multiple organ failure  So time will tell. Start taking milk thistle . Just some advise from someone who knows a bit about toxic mushrooms. Well at least in dogs and cats. but pretty sure it is the same for humans.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: ThePump]
    #19200064 - 11/28/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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thanks for all the replies. Think i'm probably ok, but i'm going to drop into the doc's tomorrow morning just to be on the safe side!





Waste of time and money.  Your symptoms do not match those of mushroom poisoning.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19200084 - 11/28/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Waste of time and money.  Your symptoms do not match those of mushroom poisoning.



no harm in getting a second, third, or fourth opinion.  I can understand not letting the "online experts" sooth the fear.....it's a forum after all.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #19200098 - 11/28/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There is harm in going to the doctor as the time and money could be better spent other ways.

The fact that he had a sore throat confirms that it was just a cold.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19200115 - 11/28/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i dont usaully vomit over two days with a cold though. and in the uk all our medical treatment is free!! so just to be safe..


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Re: poisoned? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19200116 - 11/28/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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thanks for all the replies. Think i'm probably ok, but i'm going to drop into the doc's tomorrow morning just to be on the safe side!





Waste of time and money.  Your symptoms do not match those of mushroom poisoning.




not only people w/ mushroom poisoning should go to the hospital, though...


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Re: poisoned? [Re: ThePump]
    #19200125 - 11/28/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Eggs and Spaghetti mixture is likely the culprit.


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Re: poisoned? [Re: bloodworm]
    #19200143 - 11/28/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't go to the doctor for much of anything but if I was scared of mushroom poisoning I wouldn't take ANYONE'S word alone except that of my doctor.  Peace of mind is invaluable.  I don't trust anyone but myself with my life.


OP, sorry you weren't feeling well.  I hope you feel better soon.  I don't think you are mushroom poisoned either but best of luck at your doctor's.


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