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Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube....
    #19199839 - 11/28/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Has anyone seen this?



This is a bit longer than the actual ad that plays before your youtube video but it's pretty much the same thing.

So it's an ad trying to convince people to have children......strange right? But it gets even weirder when you look at who's behind this slick advertisement....

These guys...



Unilever. The worlds third largest consumer goods company as of 2011. They own over 400 brands including, Axe deodorant, Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream, and Dove Shampoo.

They also appear to have a somewhat spotty environmental record; they've been criticized for contributing to deforestation of rain forests and so on.

Does anyone else find this even somewhat disturbing or is it just me? I just find it very creepy that a large corporate entity is trying to raise the population with slick Kony 2012 esque advertising. I mean it makes sense from a marketing perspective, but personally I find it nauseating.

And the strangest thing about all this is the generally positive feedback it seems to be getting. If you  look at the youtube page for the video I posted it has about 7.5 million views, mostly postive ratings, and the comments appear to be generally positive in nature.

I dunno....strange world we live in IMO:shrug:


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19199889 - 11/28/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, well. I think it was pretty goddamn moving, to be honest.

So what that we don't get everything right? Does that mean we should just give in, give up, lay down and die?


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: koraks] * 1
    #19199909 - 11/28/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So what that we don't get everything right? Does that mean we should just give in, give up, lay down and die?




Not at all. I can see how someone would find this very moving, that's what makes it even creepier, it's very well made. I don't think we should just all stop having children but "we" (by that I mean everyone) need to seriously step back and have a long hard look at this population problem, it's very real and it's going to cause some very real problems in the not so distant future. The fact that a big consumer goods corporation is encouraging people to have children just so they can sell more of their shit makes me kinda sick.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19199933 - 11/28/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:
Not at all. I can see how someone would find this very moving, that's what makes it even creepier, it's very well made.



I can see that it makes you uncomfortable, but why not judge it for what it is: a really well-made commercial? In fact, one of the best I've seen.

Who's afraid of marketing?

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I don't think we should just all stop having children but "we" (by that I mean everyone) need to seriously step back and have a long hard look at this population problem, it's very real and it's going to cause some very real problems in the not so distant future. The fact that a big consumer goods corporation is encouraging people to have children just so they can sell more of their shit makes me kinda sick.



Putting this in perspective a bit: the birth rate in moth European countries actually isn't sufficient to keep the population at this level. So this 'we' you're talking about really isn't one 'we'; it's different groups with different growth rates in different areas. I agree that overpopulation is a big issue, but that's why I said in my previous post: should we just give up then? Should we discourage everybody from having kids, or make every future parent feel guilty about giving into to this fundamental craving that most of us have or develop at some point?

Also, you interpret this as a message to have more kids. I don't see that, really. It just indicates that the next generation has opportunities that other generations didn't have, but that it also faces unprecedented challenges.

It really seems to me that you're trying to twist this into an 'evil corporations' thing, while it's very doubtful that it is.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: koraks] * 4
    #19199965 - 11/28/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I see your 'Have a Baby Commercial', and raise you a 'Little Baby's Ice Cream Commercial'.



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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: koraks]
    #19199979 - 11/28/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Since we don't harvest from space we can define earth as a singular entity without regard for manmade boundaries.

Honestly, that commercial is creepier than everything I've read or seen in OTD put together times ten. It's probably the most upsetting thing I've ever seen.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: koraks]
    #19199984 - 11/28/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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koraks said:
Quote:

MisterSandman said:
Not at all. I can see how someone would find this very moving, that's what makes it even creepier, it's very well made.



I can see that it makes you uncomfortable, but why not judge it for what it is: a really well-made commercial? In fact, one of the best I've seen.

Who's afraid of marketing?

Quote:

I don't think we should just all stop having children but "we" (by that I mean everyone) need to seriously step back and have a long hard look at this population problem, it's very real and it's going to cause some very real problems in the not so distant future. The fact that a big consumer goods corporation is encouraging people to have children just so they can sell more of their shit makes me kinda sick.



Putting this in perspective a bit: the birth rate in moth European countries actually isn't sufficient to keep the population at this level. So this 'we' you're talking about really isn't one 'we'; it's different groups with different growth rates in different areas. I agree that overpopulation is a big issue, but that's why I said in my previous post: should we just give up then? Should we discourage everybody from having kids, or make every future parent feel guilty about giving into to this fundamental craving that most of us have or develop at some point?

Also, you interpret this as a message to have more kids. I don't see that, really. It just indicates that the next generation has opportunities that other generations didn't have, but that it also faces unprecedented challenges.

It really seems to me that you're trying to twist this into an 'evil corporations' thing, while it's very doubtful that it is.



True, the only places where population growth is still a big problem are india, china, africa, and maybe some south american countries, as well as a few smaller places Im sure I forgot.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: koraks]
    #19199987 - 11/28/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

koraks said:
Putting this in perspective a bit: the birth rate in moth European countries actually isn't sufficient to keep the population at this level. So this 'we' you're talking about really isn't one 'we'; it's different groups with different growth rates in different areas. I agree that overpopulation is a big issue, but that's why I said in my previous post: should we just give up then? Should we discourage everybody from having kids, or make every future parent feel guilty about giving into to this fundamental craving that most of us have or develop at some point?

Also, you interpret this as a message to have more kids. I don't see that, really. It just indicates that the next generation has opportunities that other generations didn't have, but that it also faces unprecedented challenges.

It really seems to me that you're trying to twist this into an 'evil corporations' thing, while it's very doubtful that it is.




Right right, I see what you're saying. I guess what I meant by "we" was just that overpopulation is something that is going to effect everyone regardless of whether your particular country has a population problem or not. And seeing as how we all share this planet it seems like something that "we" should all work towards combating, not just India and China.

Isn't it though? Yes they are saying the next generations will have much better opportunities but in saying that they are encouraging people to have children because they now assume that their children are going to live in this wonderful Utopian society made possible by all these wonderful products Unilever is going to create.

You're probably right, it is very possible I'm being a bit biased. I love me some good ole' "evil corporations conspiracy" talk. Just let me have my fun :tinfoil: It's nice when things seem so black and white, good guys vs the evil corporations:cool:


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #19199994 - 11/28/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Guys, we already had an overpopulation thread last week. Everyone agrees now, we shouldn't squeeze out as many kids as we do.

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I see your 'Have a Baby Commercial', and raise you a 'Little Baby's Ice Cream Commercial'.





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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19199999 - 11/28/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I see your 'Have a Baby Commercial', and raise you a 'Little Baby's Ice Cream Commercial'.






:nomoreinternet: da fuck did I just watch. Was that a real commercial:lol:


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19200004 - 11/28/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Honestly, that commercial is creepier than everything I've read or seen in OTD put together times ten.




:lolsy: Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who found it a bit "off"


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19200007 - 11/28/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder how many people Unilver thinks the world can accommodate.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19200011 - 11/28/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I wonder how many people Unilver thinks the world can accommodate.



They're just preparing for when half of us move to mars.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #19200024 - 11/28/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure if it has ever been granted air time, but it's a real commercial made by a real company.
http://www.littlebabysicecream.com/

They have others, that aren't so disturbing:


never mind...


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #19200027 - 11/28/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's probably the most upsetting thing I've ever seen.



The commercial posted in the OP is the most upsetting thing you've ever seen?  Seriously?  That seems like a really absurd claim.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19200028 - 11/28/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MisterSandman said:
Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
Honestly, that commercial is creepier than everything I've read or seen in OTD put together times ten.




:lolsy: Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who found it a bit "off"




No technology can make the world's resources endless. EVERYTHING on earth is finite. The fantasy that we're just going to magically solve every problem is the single most irresponsible message you can preach. No technology changes the fact that every new person increases the demands on the world's LIMITED resource. Manna isn't real.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19200037 - 11/28/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:
Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
It's probably the most upsetting thing I've ever seen.



The commercial posted in the OP is the most upsetting thing you've ever seen?  Seriously?  That seems like a really absurd claim.




It's because they've packaged the most destructive message possible in a way that will really influence people.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19200058 - 11/28/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Holy shit :mindblown:

I'm actually going to have to buy some of their ice cream now.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19200062 - 11/28/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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TheFakeSunRa said:
Quote:

MisterSandman said:
Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
Honestly, that commercial is creepier than everything I've read or seen in OTD put together times ten.




:lolsy: Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who found it a bit "off"




No technology can make the world's resources endless. EVERYTHING on earth is finite. The fantasy that we're just going to magically solve every problem is the single most irresponsible message you can preach. No technology changes the fact that every new person increases the demands on the world's LIMITED resource. Manna isn't real.




Mmmmm yeah very well put. Irresponsible is the word I was looking for. That's pretty much exactly how I felt when I first saw the ad.


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Re: Disturbing Commercial I Noticed Floating Around Youtube.... [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19200223 - 11/28/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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TheFakeSunRa said:
The fantasy that we're just going to magically solve every problem is the single most irresponsible message you can preach.



Who preaches that message then? All I see in the commercial in the OP is an acknowledgement that technology has also contributed to the challenges that the next generation faces.


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