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Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss
    #19198309 - 11/27/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I recently started doing nitrous oxide while taking mushrooms and I was blown away with how much it intensifies the trip. I loved nos before but now I'd probably never bother taking it not tripping! It doesn't just intensify the visuals (usually I close my eyes and go into a dissociative state on nos)...but with mushrooms it seems to add depth to the trip..and bring you deeper into it rather than taking you away into a trance like when I've had it before just on alcohol or MDMA.

I need to ask this question because its something that keeps happening when I do nos while tripping ...I get this mental clarity like I'm moments away from unlocking the secrets of the universe and sometimes some of the nos trips seem to follow a storey which I get a small piece of each time (almost like nos deja vu!?) ...but by the time I come round I've forgotten the storey/connection/significance but when it comes back it seems instantly familiar.

It's very introspective and has told me a lot about myself and people in general as I've felt like I was on the brink of an epiphany but then been too embarrassed to acknowledge or pulled back from the trip due to ego/fear of fully letting go I guess. One of the recurring nos trips I have is that our brains can only handle so much of whatever the truth and mysteries of the universe are and if I let go fully I might never come back (mentally). A lot of this introspection will mainly be the mushrooms (I do pretty high doses) but the nos definitely adds a whole new dimension to it.

My example may be quite specific...but basically I'm asking if anyone else as experienced this nos deja vu / recurring trip / feeling on the brink of understanding whilst mixing with other psychs (I've only done it with mushrooms but pretty sure acid would work too). I tried to explain this to a friend and they seemed to kind of know what I meant ..I guess I want to know if there is some universal connection and for whatever reason the nos greatly enhances or clarifies the mushrooms ....or if its just in my own head and I need to lay off the psychs haha :smile:


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: jko]
    #19198370 - 11/27/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I get it without nos. Just extremely high doses. But I have found if you want to remember, write it down or record the audio during the trip. For review after you come down.


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: mico-padawan]
    #19198381 - 11/27/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

NOS and tripping is the best. It is like instant ego death but also one of the most impressive sensory experiences in existence. Add some weed to the mix and it's just unreal. I've had my entire reality broken down in to data bits. Starting with sound. It would oscillate at a bunch of different frequencies, then they would start separating and spreading apart until they were the tiniest units of data. It's crazy stuff and i recommend it to every one


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19199507 - 11/28/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've added weed to the mix also..it does intensify it lots and I can literally feel rushes of energy going up and down my body..the weed seems to bring out the body feelings more for me.

Has anyone successfully recorded anything then that made some sense the next day?! Like I say I start to get parts of the puzzle / story and this deja vu feeling but I think its a part of my self that isn't willing to let go...but it follows the standard consensus of everything being connected but maybe I've just not experienced total ego death yet. I get the feeling when I'm on the brink of figuring whatever it is out then pull back but don't really know why!


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: jko]
    #19199523 - 11/28/13 06:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I get the feeling when I'm on the brink of figuring whatever it is out then pull back but don't really know why!




Yeah nitrous is weird in that it seems to have a series of experiences in each trip. Like first it feels like you're falling, then you get a massive adrenaline rush, then the mesmerizing patterns, then you go into derp mode for about 30 seconds wondering where your brain went, then you snap back into your trip with an intense realization, then it dissappears. I've found that multiple sessions back to back of heavy nitrous (2-3 canisters) helps you get deeper. It's like it starts to synchronize with the psychedelics a bit. Whenever my girlfriend and i dive deep into nitrous while tripping, i come back unable to tell who is who. I've experienced that plenty of times with psychedelics alone, but nitrous just seems to align everything the right way to ensure that you get there if you do it enough


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: jko]
    #19199532 - 11/28/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And also...mico-padawan. What doses are we talking when you say extremely high? I usually do 5 grams of dried psilocybin cubensis that my friend grows. I've had some very very intense trips where I couldn't speak/communicate during the peak but I don't think I've experienced ego death yet. I think I may have tolerance though as I do them quite often lately.


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: jko]
    #19199541 - 11/28/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've had heavy back to back nitrous sessions with mushrooms and I know exactly what you mean when you say you come out and don't know who is who! I also sometimes get this strange feeling that when I come out it felt like we were missing a person when in a group...like someone got up and left or something! I do love it but its the ultimate tease as it never quite gets you there.

I think I had some kind of realisation that the only way to get the final piece of the story is when you die which is why I now kind of hold back even if I feel like I'm getting it (not because I think I'm going to die imminently!) but just that its something that shouldn't/can't be seen yet.


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: jko]
    #19199550 - 11/28/13 06:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah I've had heavy back to back nitrous sessions with mushrooms and I know exactly what you mean when you say you come out and don't know who is who! I also sometimes get this strange feeling that when I come out it felt like we were missing a person when in a group...like someone got up and left or something! I do love it but its the ultimate tease as it never quite gets you there.

I think I had some kind of realisation that the only way to get the final piece of the story is when you die which is why I now kind of hold back even if I feel like I'm getting it (not because I think I'm going to die imminently!) but just that its something that shouldn't/can't be seen yet.




Haha yeah you're right. My girlfriend once blew through the rest of the nitrous because she was convinced that she was on the verge of discovering alien secrets. Within a few minutes we had no more nitrous, and no alien secrets :feelsbadman: We just needed a little more to get there.... and a little more... and maybe some more


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19199821 - 11/28/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's why it's called hippie crack.


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: Dark_Star]
    #19199832 - 11/28/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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That's why it's called hippie crack.




Haha yeah, too short and too easy. Though to be honest, after having several runs with it over the summer the "crack" like qualities are pretty much gone. I don't like spending too much of my trip on the couch in complete stupor. Nitrous can make a trip pass in no time and leave you feeling like a junky if you don't cut it off somewhere


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19200608 - 11/28/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is fantastic. I have a stash of like 50 whippets and 10g of shrooms at my house in Hong Kong, definitely trying this over winter break!


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
    #19200622 - 11/28/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This is fantastic. I have a stash of like 50 whippets and 10g of shrooms at my house in Hong Kong, definitely trying this over winter break!




Dude you're gonna love it!! But really, i would hide half that stash of whippets if you're tripping alone. At least. Your first time you're gonna want to just keep going and going and going and eventually you'll feel pretty stupid and gross if you don't cut it off somewhere.


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19200728 - 11/28/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

fuck that bull shit whippet shit


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: Deathcore]
    #19200773 - 11/28/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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fuck that bull shit whippet shit




why?


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19200828 - 11/28/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Never taken nos with mushrooms, but that seems like what I experience on almost any medium-high dose of psychedelics, typically during the peak. I'll be coming up and then things seem like they're getting very chaotic (yet in a paradoxically calm way), it feels very deja-vu like in that I feel as if I've experienced this moment before (and of course I have at this point, but it's more than that, it's like it's the most familiar feeling one can possibly experience).

Generally I'll pace back and forth at this point just waiting for it to pass, it's not bad, but just feels like you're blasting off or exploding/ripping apart perhaps. Impending doom is a very fitting phrase. I always would describe it to my friend as the end of the world, it feels like I'm a black hole in the center of the universe and it's all being sucked inside of me, I can see the edges of existence, it's so close I can touch the edge of the universe, there's no fine line between 'me' and 'it' and after it's sucked in so too will I be.

I'm confronted with all kinds of epiphanies, self realizations, etc, often in this state it's not soo.. whimsical and enlightening as it is simply torturous, it feels like I already know all of this stuff and to be bombarded with it all at once is like I'm being taunted by some great cosmic knowledge. I always push through it though simply because I really don't know what else I can do, just hang on and ride it out, or perhaps a better perspective is to let go while it passes over/carries you away.

After about 20 min or so of this (which literally feels like eternity) there is almost instant relief, just like a flick of a switch, one moment the world is ending, I feel like I'm dying, etc, and then bam, you're plunked down on a freshly created earth, it's just like the old one, but everything's brand new. All boundaries are dissolved, you're connected with everything, I literally feel like I have all the answers to any question ever posed or to be proposed, but they're just not that special, not something I feel a need to go out and share, I'm just appreciative to be alive, of and for everything really. You're just filled with humility, compassion, understanding, etc. it just floods your soul and eminates from every pore. Maybe I'm just tripping, but I swear it affects everyone and everything around me too, people just seem to be more present, calm, receptive, etc, and I mean just random people, everyone (I normally trip in public). I feel reborn and everythng I do is like it's the first time. In the beginning I'd have trouble putting it into words, in large part just because of the level of humility I felt just made me feel arrogant for even having such an experience where so far none of my friends have that I'm aware of, but I've never had difficulty remembering or holding on to it. This is by far the most wonderful experience I can ever imagine.


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Re: Nitrous oxide on psychedelics..epiphanies and instant memory loss [Re: krypto2000]
    #19200904 - 11/28/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah krypto, it is a pretty typical psychedelic experience in terms of how it affects your mind, but it is like a canon blast into that dimension and also has some very unique features, most notably an ungodly mesmerizing euphoria. You won't exactly "gain" more than you would from a psychedelic itself... But it's pretty fun and worth a couple shots


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