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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: deadwk]
#19198224 - 11/27/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It doesn't prove anything. It suggests that the stoned ape theory doesn't have supporting evidence.
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron]
#19198225 - 11/27/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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jonathan9301 said: the deer people are the true higher beings
Yeah, as in alot higher.
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#19198226 - 11/27/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I misinterpreted your post then, my apologies!
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: deadwk]
#19198230 - 11/27/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's cool man.
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#19198234 - 11/27/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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physicist said:
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jonathan9301 said: the deer people are the true higher beings
Yeah, as in alot higher. 
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: millzy]
#19198245 - 11/27/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude, space out your posts. It's a PITA to quote you 
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White Beard said: I wouldn't call it a theory because theories require evidence.
Human evolution, especially evolution of the human brain is part of the evidence. It happened.
that's like saying that the world itself is evidence for a teleological god creating it. yes we developed bigger brains that allowed us to reason and plan for the future.
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we also developed a differently shaped larynx that allowed us to formulate words in order to communicate our ideas. but this stuff took a long time, and we can't assume that mushrooms had anything to do with those developments. even in the case for mushrooms playing some role in helping develop language
No shit. We can't assume it did. It's a theory as to how pre-modern humans (who presumably had a larynx, based on morphology) were more apt to be successful in communicating with their peers.
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my initial reservation would be regarding the fact that those types of mushrooms wouldn't be growing everywhere people were.
This would be in the southern half on Africa, where we know modern humans evolved based on the archeological record. We also know they were living in the plains in the latter years.
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we also don't know how much of those it would take to cause that sort of change over what i would presume would be long periods of time. assuming mushrooms even cause those types of changes, i would surmise that you would have to have repeated exposure to large amounts of them over long periods of time. early people were nomadic and mushrooms are hardly ubiquitous so that doesn't seem to add up to me.
The theory isn't about direct genetic changes from psilocybin exposure. It could have been small populations that were more cooperative, more successful, and fucked more based on exposure to psilocybin. Perhaps more successful beating other pre-modern human clans in war-like activity, which would have increased breeding opportunities and food opportunites, thus increasing their size and relative impact.
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i think it's plausible, or even probable, that early humans did come into contact with psychedelics and that relationship has persisted over time. but anything beyond that is pure conjecture for me.
It isn't proof, it's a theory.
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Set]
#19198364 - 11/27/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's a hypothesis, not a theory. i did misinterpret the first part of your post though. i thought you said that the brain in its current state is evidence for stoned ape.
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#19198378 - 11/27/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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physicist said: What about deer? Deer have been observed eating psychedelic mushrooms and weed and probably opium too. Should we presume that deer only recently started altering there minds? There are deer in many cave paintings. How come deer don't own houses and money etc.?
For starters recently deer have been pretty rapidly evolving to have more rod cells in their eyes, because that makes it so they can be more nocturnal, therefore less get killed in auto accidents/ during hunting.
And a deers brain is just simply not as complex as that of a primates. While butchering deer I've dissected their heads before, their brains are roughly the size of a walnut, our brains are so much more bigger and complex than that, really they're hard to compare.
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I call BS on the theory.
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Bitter Cactus said: I call BS on the theory.
What about the derr and rod cells? or the cocaine and genetic mutations one?
The cocaine one is pretty strongly researched and agreed with, and I have actually dealt with it in real life, so I believe it to be true...
and the deer thing is not a theory, it's literally happening right before our eyes, I'm not really claiming it's from mushrooms or anything, but it's definitely happening.
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I believe in the the Stoned Ape Theory. Have before I ever heard of it. The somewhat recent studies of psilocybin being proven to be able to create new brain cells gives it more plausibility than ever. Mushrooms in a sense, are my religion.
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Shroomopotamus said: I believe in the the Stoned Ape Theory. Have before I ever heard of it. The somewhat recent studies of psilocybin being proven to be able to create new brain cells gives it more plausibility than ever. Mushrooms in a sense, are my religion.
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron]
#19202588 - 11/28/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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such a wide gap between knowledge and belief.
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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: millzy]
#19202692 - 11/28/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is quite the interesting theory
I think environment in general still has a huge effect on the way people are
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