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stoned ape theory
    #19197748 - 11/27/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so whats your guys opinion on the stoned ape theory.


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron]
    #19197777 - 11/27/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

100% spot on


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19197797 - 11/27/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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100% spot on



:whathesaid:

I find it to be more likely than some other theories about evolution... like that aliens came and implanted dna in primates or some shit.


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron]
    #19197827 - 11/27/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sounds unlikely. Also, no empirical evidence, so it's basically a 'what if' question, and 'what if' questions make me :yawn:


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19197830 - 11/27/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You guys are kidding, right?


As for the ridiculous video, 10,000 BC? Civilizations were around back then.


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron]
    #19197843 - 11/27/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: mylfgur]
    #19197851 - 11/27/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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mylfgur said:
You guys are kidding, right?


As for the ridiculous video, 10,000 BC? Civilizations were around back then.




"In his book Food of the Gods, McKenna proposed that the transformation from humans' early ancestors Homo erectus to the species Homo sapiens mainly had to do with the addition of the mushroom Psilocybe cubensis in its diet - an event which according to his theory took place in about 100,000 BC (this is when he believed that the species diverged from the Homo genus)."

It's supposed to be 1000,000 BC


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: White Beard]
    #19197881 - 11/27/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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sounds unlikely. Also, no empirical evidence, so it's basically a 'what if' question, and 'what if' questions make me :yawn:




No empirical evidence because who in there right mind would put forth the funding for the research required? And even worse if it was found to be true! How would the world react to discovering that we evolved from tripping monkeys? That would be more detrimental then proving that say Mormonism or scientology was the real answer.

I'm my book its a very solid theory, from a man a highly respect for the doors he has opened for many people. And even McKenna himself always questioned his own theories, saying that if you don't contradict yourself then you don't have an interesting enough point of view to listen to.


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron] * 1
    #19197884 - 11/27/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's a theory.


I love McKenna, but in the same way I love some of my crackpot uncles.  They're interesting and a lot of fun to hang out with.


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: maddad]
    #19197943 - 11/27/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sigh. There's no big conspiracy in the scientific community where scientists are afraid of getting the modern scientific view challenged. Even 'far out ideas'. QM and relativity are far out, but that didn't stop them from getting backing from evidence.


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Set]
    #19197947 - 11/27/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't call it a theory because theories require evidence.


Edited by White Beard (11/27/13 07:29 PM)


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: White Beard]
    #19197960 - 11/27/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it's an interesting hypothesis that doesn't have a shred of evidence supporting it.


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: White Beard]
    #19197970 - 11/27/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

wat


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Set]
    #19197975 - 11/27/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

edited. dunno why that happened. :shrug:


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron]
    #19197981 - 11/27/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Set said:
It's a theory.


I love McKenna, but in the same way I love some of my crackpot uncles.  They're interesting and a lot of fun to hang out with.




Pretty much this.

Also, how would one go about proving/disproving this theory?


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19197986 - 11/27/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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physicist said:
Quote:

Set said:
It's a theory.


I love McKenna, but in the same way I love some of my crackpot uncles.  They're interesting and a lot of fun to hang out with.




Pretty much this.

Also, how would one go about proving/disproving this theory?




get some monkeys high lol


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: Ultron] * 1
    #19197992 - 11/27/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

"...And then, the monkey came to the realization that he was a monkey!"


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19198000 - 11/27/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

we are simple tool making apes


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: White Beard]
    #19198007 - 11/27/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I wouldn't call it a theory because theories require evidence.




There is actually good evidence supporting a lot of the claims. Aside from the fact that since humans have been know to be drawn to altered states since before writing or language was invented. Maybe do a little more research before you go and nay say something so quickly. Sure it may sound like a crack-pot theory but what truths do we hold now that weren't at one point?


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Re: stoned ape theory [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #19198014 - 11/27/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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physicist said:
Quote:

Set said:
It's a theory.


I love McKenna, but in the same way I love some of my crackpot uncles.  They're interesting and a lot of fun to hang out with.




Pretty much this.

Also, how would one go about proving/disproving this theory?




Get a bunch of lab rats. Feed one group psilocybin, the other is control. Do dna tests on their off spring. Continue for a few generations. If there is a statistically significant increase in genetic mutations, then that could be a start. You could also test the groups on problem solving tasks, or whatever that could test for heightened awareness.


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