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did I overdose or have a panic attack?
    #19196915 - 11/27/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so yesterday I took 3.5 blotters of what I was told was 750ug 25i-nBOME at about 12pm. I was having an alright trip. the visuals were very strong. the euphoria was a lot more forced than on acid. the head trip felt more confused than enlightened. but i wasn't having a bad time. at 545pm I took one hit of Diablo brand spice, which I smoke regularly but have never smoked under the influence of 25i, and, though it is strong, has never caused me to overdose or panic on its own.

immediately after taking the hit i could tell it was affecting me more than usual. my visuals became insane. my heart began to race. after a minute i felt like i was having a heart attack. i couldn't stand up. i felt like my veins were exploding. my breath became very shallow. i felt that death was extremely imminent, so much so that i began to pray to various deities in my mind to save me because i didn't know what else to do. i could no longer speak. this lasted for approximately 10-12 minutes. i still felt like shit for about 3 hours afterwards.

was this a panic attack or some sort of overdose because of the drug interaction?


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19196931 - 11/27/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say it was a weird reaction. I don't think you overdosed, just took a higher dose.

Synthetic cannabanoids tend to do this, and mixing it with 25I-NBOMe... I don't even want to imagine.


Weed and 25C was intense enough lol.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19196933 - 11/27/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus bro. Combining 25i and legal cannabis? You're crazy!

Fucking RC's on top of synthetic weed...sounds like a recipe for disaster. Especially when you're taking 2500+micrograms of nBOME. Maybe its just me cause I stick to organic/classical psychedelics, but I've never heard of such a crazy combo.

Overdose or panic attack, I don't see much of a difference. You luckily survived.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19196943 - 11/27/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a panic attack or vertigo.

Happened to me once but not on those drugs. I smoke a large joint of white widow and hadn't eaten for maybe 8 hours. Felt those symptoms and fainted in my friends bathroom. I was white as a ghost , heart racing, shallow breathing, super dizzy.

had a splitting headache after too


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19197016 - 11/27/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

For your own safety please do not mix diablo with other substances, even if you smoke it regularly, which is highly advised not to do. Ive tried it quite a few times so it doesn't surprise me to hear you thinking your veins were gonna pop out on the RC. Diablo is ridiculously strong in my opinion, and it makes my heart beat dangerously fast.

If anyone personally knows what diablo does then I know you :smbfacepalm: after reading this seeing it was mixed with a RC.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: 2bakednate]
    #19197143 - 11/27/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Weed, and much more-so many synth. 'noids, are very strong panic-inducers. A big toke of a potent 'noid (like AM) makes my ears ring, I can't stand up, vision brightens, vertigo, hearts beating out of my chest, and not being able to put my thoughts to words (very much like being moderately dissociated IMO). A few people who touched my AM-2201 stash had this happen, and two got so scared they quit drugs altogether.

25i wasn't too particularly heady for me, and the fact that the spice set it off points to panic attack IMO


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19197220 - 11/27/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's how a lot of panic attacks feel for me, and i have no doubt the high dose 25i had a part in
it. Hell, I've had similar experiences on synthetic cannabinoids alone.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: pcplease]
    #19197240 - 11/27/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the feedback guys. I am done with these research chemicals for good. I tried smoking a different brand of spice today and had a similar but weaker reaction, even though I have not taken any other drugs. I seem to have developed some sort of allergy to the drugs. Fuck them, I needed to give them up anyway.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19197266 - 11/27/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Great to hear you're aiming for improvement! :smile:

I wouldn't doubt that the allergy is just your mind assuming/expecting a "bad" (i.e. panic) reaction from the spice, stopping you from being able to enjoy it. Happened to me when I first got AM-2201 (never with the JWHs), and I didn't touch the stuff for a couple months after that :lol:

Not that I'm trying to persuade you to keep using them :lol: my point of mentioning is you shouldn't worry that something physical happened or harmed you; I'm sure you're fine :thumbup:

You might well get a similar reaction from your first dab, too :stoned2: so don't panic :wink:


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: pcplease]
    #19197370 - 11/27/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Be careful man. Those synthetics arent particularly safe by themselves, let alone in combination.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19197379 - 11/27/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Is there truly a difference between an overdose and anxiety?


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: Icyus]
    #19197537 - 11/27/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You probably had a panic attack because you overdosed


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: morrowasted]
    #19197546 - 11/27/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

eek, spice puts me in an anxious headspace... i dont do it anymore... sounds like you had some sort of panic attack and the spice may have increased the effects of the drug. i know smoking weed increased 25c for me.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: Icyus]
    #19197612 - 11/27/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Is there truly a difference between an overdose and anxiety?




Not by definition, but some think of "overdosing" as exclusively requiring medical attention (which has happened, i.e. seizures etc., from synth noids)


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: pcplease]
    #19197629 - 11/27/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My face, lips would always get numb when I had panic attacks.


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Re: did I overdose or have a panic attack? [Re: koods]
    #19197812 - 11/27/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Last night I think I had a mini panic attack smoking MJ. My heart was racing, i was very aware of my swallowing which made it uncomfortable. I was freaking out inside my head :crazy2:


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