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Trying again after 5 days, need advice
    #19196059 - 11/27/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I ate 2g saturday evening (dried powder in caps) right after a meal because we were going to a show with friends and then another .5g 2 hours later and I was hoping to get some lift........got basically nothing.  I hate waiting want to eat some tonight (Wednesday) or this weekend but don't want to be wasteful or disappointed again.  I knew it was risky eating them on a not-empty stomach.  I usually don't but the circumstances were what they were I couldn't skip the dinner party deal.

I've found that 2.5 - 3g in lemon tek is right where I want to be usually, visuals with control.  Not trying to have a breakthrough.  Any experience / advice from the floor?  If you don't get anything because your gut was full, has your tolerence been impacted?  It had been 2-3 weeks since my previous.  I've done them twice in a weekend several times (like Thurs and Sat) and noticed less visuals on the second night but this was the first time I got nothing from 2g or more.  Still waiting for the right conditions to have a big night / breakthrough, enjoying myself getting comfortable in level 2 - 3 trips for now.


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: SynKyd]
    #19196164 - 11/27/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Personally for me I like to wait at least a week. Even then a potency loss is noted. I don't know how much experience you have, but a rule of thumb I use is to double up, or at least a dose and a half of what I took previously. But that is really at your discretion, based on how well you can handle yourself. Even if you felt little to no effect you still build a tolerance, that's just from the psilocybin being in your system. If I am only consuming mushrooms then I go no less than an 1/8 for a good level 3. But that is just me.


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: SynKyd]
    #19196180 - 11/27/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If you don't get anything because your gut was full, has your tolerence been impacted?





no personal experience, but i would suspect no. you shouldn't have nearly as much tolerance as if you would've had you actually tripped. :shrug:


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: awakendone]
    #19197277 - 11/27/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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no personal experience, but i would suspect no. you shouldn't have nearly as much tolerance as if you would've had you actually tripped. :shrug:




That's kind of what I'm thinking and why I asked......if the food prevents the psilocybin from entering the blood is the reason you don't trip when you've eaten then it shouldn't impact tolerance was my logic.

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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: SynKyd]
    #19197289 - 11/27/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It is still being processed by your body though, which is why there is a tolerence build up.


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: maddad]
    #19197367 - 11/27/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, food doesn't prevent psilocybin from effecting your receptors, food makes the process much slower and so the experience is more drawn out and less concentrated


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: ChRnZN]
    #19197465 - 11/27/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your stomach full of food slows digestion of the mushrooms
So you get all the active ingredients, but over 4-6 hrs vice 20 minutes

So... Don't eat mushrooms on a full stomach

After taking mushrooms, tolerance sets in after an hour. Taking 1/2 gm at 2 hr point, is pointless

I suggest waiting 7-14 days to make sure your tolerance is gone

At 5 days... Will get something but possibly not as strong as if you wait 7 days


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: HarryL]
    #19197509 - 11/27/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: HarryL]
    #19199922 - 11/28/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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After taking mushrooms, tolerance sets in after an hour. Taking 1/2 gm at 2 hr point, is pointless





not sure I agree with that, I've taken more up to 3 hours in and it's definitely helped increase and extend my trip.  Many on this board say if you're not where you want to be in 90 minutes to take more, especially when advising first-time trips and starting cautiously.  It may be reduced effect over taking it all at once, but I have seen increase.  Now the half gram, yeah, I probably should have taken the original dose again to have any real effect.............in hindsight.


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: SynKyd]
    #19200018 - 11/28/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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After taking mushrooms, tolerance sets in after an hour. Taking 1/2 gm at 2 hr point, is pointless





not sure I agree with that, I've taken more up to 3 hours in and it's definitely helped increase and extend my trip.  Many on this board say if you're not where you want to be in 90 minutes to take more, especially when advising first-time trips and starting cautiously.  It may be reduced effect over taking it all at once, but I have seen increase.  Now the half gram, yeah, I probably should have taken the original dose again to have any real effect.............in hindsight.




I like to take another half gram right before I start peaking-- typically at the 1.5-2hr mark. It never deepens, widens or intesifies the experience, but just that little bit extends my trips from a 6hr experience to an 8hr experience. So I wouldn't consider it pointless either, but it definately wont make you trip any harder in IME. As for trying again 5 days after a failed attempt: I don't know, but it should work. I personaly have never tried tripping with any less than 7 days between experiences, but i've know people that have been able to get off with only 3 days in between. Definatly go without eating an hour or two before you dose, and take the entire dose at once and you should get to where you need to be (or at least close to it)
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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19200554 - 11/28/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, just wait it out. Some of us want to trip more often than others, but if you want to maximize each trip you have to give your body time to physically and spiritually recuperate.

There is no other way. Tolerance exists and the struggle is real!


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
    #19200868 - 11/28/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Taking shrooms on a full stomach isn't a good idea.. Waiting 14 days between doses is a great idea. Tolerance shouldn't be an issue if you don't take trips to close together and obviously avoid taking them with food/full stomach.


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19204089 - 11/29/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fasted 6 hours then Took 3.3g in lemon tek, soaked 15 min before injesting. Came up quick, little scary in a few moments but they passed. Had good level 2-3 visuals and really good vibes all night, peaked at 2.5 hours and was basically chill after 4 hours when I crashed. Perfectly clear night, although cold, spent some time indoors then out back and forth with headphones (Kid A by Radiohead) laying back in a lounge chair I could hear the stars calling me and showing where something was but also telling me it wasn't time yet. And in the weirdest moment of the night the tree canopy framed the sky into a picture of jar jar binks face and I couldn't shake it for like 5 minutes.......scary! Lol :mushroom2:

Thanks all for the advice. I am grateful for the night, and probably won't have a chance to visit again for 5-6 weeks so all good for next time!


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: SynKyd]
    #19204369 - 11/29/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

that's awesome! lemon tek is the only i've consumed shrooms these last few years. i love it, i could never go back. i've settled on 40min soaks because ime it's even more effective than 30. 15mins definitely works, but i consider that a diet lemon tek.


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Re: Trying again after 5 days, need advice [Re: awakendone]
    #19204853 - 11/29/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I usually do 10-15 min in lemon juice (dried ground powder) and mix with cranberry juice when it's time. Not sure I would want any faster, last night I had light visuals at 10 min and was getting worried at 20 min but things leveled out and I just kept moving around any trying to not get stuck in one spot until I knew I was good.......that took about 20 min. By one hour I was really enjoying the ride.......


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