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The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience
    #19196026 - 11/27/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hello, fellow users. "A friend of mine" is going to be getting his first cactus experience very soon, they are going to be 12" cuttings of the bridgesii achuma trichocereus variety, he said those contain usually more reliable alkaloids and the important one, and such, which is why he chose that over pedro, because alot of his friends have said they had received pedro with little to no results. Anyway, "he" is going to take the all natural raw eating, despine, and cut into stars and eat method, because he has drank dxm so many times in a outrageous ammount in the past (which tastes like pure ass anyway) and has been able to hold it down, he thinks this will be about the same taste if not better or worse. He is not going to be able to use any cooking or extraction methods, because of the people around him, and the given timing, so he was wondering if there are any ways of say overriding the bitter taste? He thought about getting really spicy salsa (he loves spicy stuff, and has a high tolerance), because he has eating salsa before and it seemed to de-activate any taste buds, as well as having some powerade or something to drink with it, unless something like grape juice would work better? He is also confused about the cactus itself when prepping, people have been saying there is a think waxy layer of skin to remove, but if he is not cooking or extracting, is this necessary, as long as the spines are off? If there is any specific raw consumption tuttorial or any advice would be appreciated, also this would not be his first time on psychedelics, (lds, shr0mz, 2-cb) so he is prepared for the expereince, he just wants to make the prep of eating and taste as efficient as possible under the circumstances. :smile: Oh also, is the spine hard to cut into with a cooking knife, and what would be the easiest way to get out the spines if no peeling knife is around by chance?


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: srttom20]
    #19196046 - 11/27/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Another question, how would you cut the stars, after they are stars, because obviously the outer green skin is too rough to eat, so just cut them into triangles then chew for a long time or what?


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: srttom20]
    #19196151 - 11/27/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi there

You will want to remove the skin, it's not considered edible and is a major cause of nausea. If one was to cook it and strain then you could leave the skin on but if you are eating cacti, take the skin off! I think the best thing would be to just cut it away with a knife.
The core can be quite hard to cut, i've seen people use machete type things which would be easier, otherwise one could cut strips away from the core rather than through it. In terms of taste, having something to drink after each bite helps. Coca cola is good for taste but one might want to avoid caffeine, it's a personal choice. I don't think yet another sour/bitter drink would help at all, sweet would be better IMO. The spines will come away as you cut off the skin.

Hope that helps


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: srttom20]
    #19196159 - 11/27/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you're eating it raw, it will be especially important to remove the waxy layer of skin as this is believed to cause a large part if the stomach discomfort. It's a bit of a pain, but well worth the effort.

In response to your second question, the green skin is what you're after. Supposedly the white fleshy parts and the core contain minimal actives, but when making tea or powdering dried cactus, I've used the entire plant with few problems.


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: Couperj]
    #19196962 - 11/27/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The waxy skin might very slightly contribute to nausea in my experience.


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #19197355 - 11/27/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I had my first cacti experince last sat with tea and i just wanted to let u know dxm assuming ciugh syrup taste like fuckn koolaid compared to cactus imagine a pro football team playing in 110 degree day a rigging oit there jock straps and socks into a cup

Get something with a stronger taste than powerade for a chaser something like cranberry juice

Or u could tea it then reduce it to tar


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: srttom20]
    #19208653 - 11/30/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I am still kind of confused. This waxy skin, when it is peeled off, is the outer layer going to still look green? Like the waxy layer is clear right? I heard your supposed to leave as much green as possible, but still remove the waxy layer, I just want to make sure im not throwing away the most important part, but I dont want to be eating the wrong thing, if you chew the waxy layer for a few minutes or until the juices are released, would that be less wastefull then throwing it away?. He would make tea, but it is not possible at this moment in time, maybe in future soon but cant right now.


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: srttom20]
    #19208937 - 11/30/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I didnt do that i had 2ft and it worked fucking awsome super intense



I took 2ft cut into stars and froze and thawed twice

Chopped into chunks put in blender added enough water to cover and blended the shit out of it

Poured in big ass pot and boiled with fresh lemon and lme for 10hrs added water as needed to keep it even with pulp

Strain into another pot and reduced to mangingable amout

Drink

Throw up

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Didnt remove waxy skin,core or anything i used entire cactus


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19209178 - 11/30/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Don't eat your garden. These species are way to beautiful and elegant to be consumed


Edited by Magicman69 (12/28/13 08:40 PM)


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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: srttom20]
    #19209654 - 11/30/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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srttom20 said:
So I am still kind of confused. This waxy skin, when it is peeled off, is the outer layer going to still look green? Like the waxy layer is clear right? I heard your supposed to leave as much green as possible, but still remove the waxy layer.....






Yes, exactly.


The waxy skin is a thin, somewhat clear layer, the "skin" of the cactus. Right underneath this waxy skin is a layer of dark green flesh, this is where the highest concentration of goods are. And underneath the dark green layer, the flesh starts to become lighter green as you get closer to the core, there might be some amount of alkaloids in this but if you're eating it I'd just go with eating the dark green flesh right underneath the skin.


With a knife, you can carefully get it right under the skin then slide it along and peel/pry off the waxy skin. Sometimes it will only flake off in small pieces, but most of it should come off relatively easily once you get it going. Or just use the knife to pry/peel an edge of the skin up, then pull it off with your hands. What ever works.



I've never ate the stuff straight. I can imagine eating it won't be as bad, as far as the bitterness goes, compared to the tea. Since the tea would be more concentrated. I consider the taste to be far worse than DXM syrup :lol:, but the first time I drank the tea it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be from what I was told, it's still pretty foul though. But yea, chew it up as best you can, and I'd suggest washing it down with some sweet juice. Something like pineapple juice or lemonade are my preferences. I also suggest using as little juice as possible to wash it down, just a sip, just enough to get it down....







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Re: The Bridgesii/Perdro cacti experience [Re: openmind]
    #19211492 - 12/01/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks to everyone for your help, openmind, your clarification was crucial, I was confused about that part the most, so I really appreciate it. Peace and love, stay safe.


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