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Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon]
    #19193752 - 11/26/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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UPDATED: Small explosion at Medford apartment sends three to the hospital

November 26, 2013
Updated 10:30 a.m.

Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion that sent two men to a Portland burn center and put a 12-year-old girl in the hospital with broken bones.

The explosion occurred at 10:29 p.m. Monday at the Valley Pine Apartments at 645 Royal Ave. when butane used in the hash oil preparation exploded. The blast burned 27-year-old Edward Bryant Shelton and 34-year-old Andrew William Long. Long ran to nearby Providence Medford Medical Center for treatment of his burns. Shelton was found outside the apartment and taken to Providence. Both have since been transported to Legacy Health Emanuel Burn Center in Portland, where they remain in critical condition, police said.

The 12-year-old girl jumped from a second-story balcony to escape the resulting fire, breaking some bones when she hit the ground. A 37-year-old male and 48-year-old female, the girl's mother, escaped without injury.

Medford police, the Medford Area Drug and Gang Enforcement Team, and Medford Fire-Rescue continue to investigate the case. Parties involved could receive criminal charges when the investigation is complete.

7:55 a.m.

A small explosion at a Medford apartment Monday night sent the unit's three occupants to the hospital and prompted a 45-minute evacuation of the building, fire officials said.

The incident was reported at 10:30 p.m. at Valley Pine Apartments, 645 Royal Ave. in Medford.

"It came in as an explosion, possible fire and also a possible burn victim," said. Ken Goodson, battalion chief for Medford Fire-Rescue, adding the explosion was not an explosion in the traditional sense. "It was probably more of, I guess you would call it a flash fire."

Four engines and 13 firefighters from Medford Fire responded, meeting Medford police and Mercy Flights at the scene. Responders could see into No. 233, on the second floor of the three-story complex, from the street. Smoke poured from the porch door, and a male adult was found outside on the ground, injured from burns.

Firefighters made entry and found a small fire burning in the kitchen. A moderate amount of smoke permeated the apartment, Goodson said. It took just a few minutes to extinguish the flames, leaving minimal damage to the home. No other units were damaged.

Several aerosol cans and containers of butane were found in the room. The fire's cause is not yet known, but fire officials said the incident was an accident.

"It wasn't an intentional fire," Goodson said.

During knockdown and a preliminary investigation, fire and police evacuated the building's other apartments.

The man and juvenile found outside were transported to area hospitals — one to Asante Rogue Regional Medical Center and one to Providence Medford Medical Center. Their names were not available. A third occupant, also injured from burns, reportedly went to Providence on their own. One of those patients will be transported to Oregon Health Sciences University for further treatment, Goodson said.

"That usually means there are complications," he said.

Fire crews left the scene at about 1 a.m. The incident remains under investigation by police and fire agencies.

— Ryan Pfeil

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131126/NEWS07/311260330





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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: 4runner]
    #19194051 - 11/26/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I still can't comprehend these explosions. I mean, i've accidentally set 12-24oz of liquid butane on fire in the lab, but the stuff doesn't explode unless you're igniting gallons of the stuff. When your average back yard chemist has a melt down, it's usually in small quantities and results in small burns....critical burn unit though? dayum. :feelsbadman:


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19194108 - 11/26/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't understand why people do this shit indoors.  I get sketched out doing extractions outside, always aware of any electrical sources, if the neighbor is outside mowing his lawn or smoking a cigarette, if the clothes I'm wearing are loaded with static, etc.  I've done hundreds of extractions and never had any problems.  It must take a real idiot to just start unloading cans of butane inside. 

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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: fungusmuncher]
    #19194194 - 11/26/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder if someone lit a cigarette?

Just a cautionary tale in any case.
Stay safe be smart and don't end up in the shroomery news :thumbup:


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19194244 - 11/26/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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funkerdslr said:
I still can't comprehend these explosions. I mean, i've accidentally set 12-24oz of liquid butane on fire in the lab, but the stuff doesn't explode unless you're igniting gallons of the stuff. When your average back yard chemist has a melt down, it's usually in small quantities and results in small burns....critical burn unit though? dayum. :feelsbadman:




The difference between burning liquid fuel and an airborne fuel cannot be understated.  Think butane grill vs  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

extremely dangerous procedure, should only be performed by properly trained personnel with adequate equipment.

Yet another direct case of Legal Regulation being safer than Black Market Prohibition.  Distilling alcohol can be dangerous without information or equipment, yet few accidents with licensed home or commercial distillers.  Also, no lack of heady beer or fine liquor with legal regulations (re: wally world of weed worries)


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: Carbon_Black]
    #19194278 - 11/26/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Never did this art say that they were making hash but hash butane used to nake it expkoded. no admitance..


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: Caddilac]
    #19194471 - 11/26/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Darwinism at its finest. If you really have to do extractions in an apartment, open that shit up and have some good ventilation going. Oh, and keep the dummies far, far away.


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19195447 - 11/27/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly-- these hash-bomb explosions happen so often there should be a graemlin for it.  Idiotic moves like these are what put an unhappy face on hash use for people who dont know any better--



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funkerdslr said:
I still can't comprehend these explosions. I mean, i've accidentally set 12-24oz of liquid butane on fire in the lab, but the stuff doesn't explode unless you're igniting gallons of the stuff. When your average back yard chemist has a melt down, it's usually in small quantities and results in small burns....critical burn unit though? dayum. :feelsbadman:





when people expel butane gas into a closed building it pools and the oxygen present in the air becomes a catalyst for the already highly flammable gas-- when it ignites the reaction expands with extreme velocity, heat, and bright light--

any average idiot with access to the internet can buy a really stupid butane extractor:  http://www.ebay.com/bhp/bho-extractor none of which are designed to reclaim the solvent butane.

but if someone really wanted to make good hash and wanted to be wise about it they would save up their nickels and dimes and buy one of these: http://www.tamisiumextractors.com/index.php/te-700-8-ounce

used with a vacuum system all the butane used in the extraction is reclaimed in a sealed system and can be used multiple times for other extractions... none of the butane is released into the environment.  It's the most wise idea for any of you hasholerros.


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: travelleler]
    #19195476 - 11/27/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

for the stoners that dont feel like reading i will paraphrase.

HEY KNUCKLEHEADS,


THIS:



NOT THIS:



you can make really decent oil with iso-alcohol from the grocery store... it's way less risky :shrug:


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: travelleler]
    #19195970 - 11/27/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Tammys are WAY over priced. they use the same Glacier tank spooling that you can buy directly from glaciertanks. We built our closed loop systems from the MKII specs on SKR.


All closed loop systems use either a cold trap, or passive transfer by sticking the blasting tank in hot water, and the reclaiming tank in an ice bath, this forced the butane into a gas and through into the holding tank.

The only way to clean N-butane is to use this method of reclamation, after the first reclaim of butane, you'll be left with all the impurities that where in the butane tank which have been dubbed "MYSTERY OIL".


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: funkerdslr]
    #19196701 - 11/27/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Tammys are WAY over priced. they use the same Glacier tank spooling that you can buy directly from glaciertanks. We built our closed loop systems from the MKII specs on SKR.


All closed loop systems use either a cold trap, or passive transfer by sticking the blasting tank in hot water, and the reclaiming tank in an ice bath, this forced the butane into a gas and through into the holding tank.

The only way to clean N-butane is to use this method of reclamation, after the first reclaim of butane, you'll be left with all the impurities that where in the butane tank which have been dubbed "MYSTERY OIL".





right on!  :thumbup:  I agree with your statement 100%, i only reference them here because it's easy to find... and pre-assembled.  Naturally anyone with a little mechanical ingenuity could build the terpinator from the blueprints on SKR.  Glacier tanks has a lot of quality parts and a fantastic supply of hardware on hand!

do you have a build thread or any info about the one you made??


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: travelleler]
    #19197948 - 11/27/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Intersting posts. I had no idea people were selling closed loop butane extractors.
That's a great Idea. I was just thinking the other day that BHO extraction would be way safer if you could contain the butane.


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: Heffy]
    #19199185 - 11/28/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder how many of these explosion stories has been posted on shroomery news so far. It seems like every week someone either blows up a BHO lab or dies from an RC. Thanks for the happy thoughts:sad:


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: niteman]
    #19200489 - 11/28/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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niteman said:
I wonder how many of these explosion stories has been posted on shroomery news so far. It seems like every week someone either blows up a BHO lab or dies from an RC. Thanks for the happy thoughts:sad:






you can be thankful it wasnt you


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: niteman]
    #19200758 - 11/28/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It is sad that we can't see all the happy news relating to drugs but, that's the way she goes.
Just think of these stories as a Public Service Announcement.


PSA: Don't do dumb shit.


Actually, I had never even heard of those butane reclamation contraptions before. Not that I would need one, but knowing is half the battle.


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Re: Processing hash oil in a Medford apartment led to an explosion [Oregon] [Re: travelleler]
    #19200958 - 11/28/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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funkerdslr said:
Tammys are WAY over priced. they use the same Glacier tank spooling that you can buy directly from glaciertanks. We built our closed loop systems from the MKII specs on SKR.


All closed loop systems use either a cold trap, or passive transfer by sticking the blasting tank in hot water, and the reclaiming tank in an ice bath, this forced the butane into a gas and through into the holding tank.

The only way to clean N-butane is to use this method of reclamation, after the first reclaim of butane, you'll be left with all the impurities that where in the butane tank which have been dubbed "MYSTERY OIL".





right on!  :thumbup:  I agree with your statement 100%, i only reference them here because it's easy to find... and pre-assembled.  Naturally anyone with a little mechanical ingenuity could build the terpinator from the blueprints on SKR.  Glacier tanks has a lot of quality parts and a fantastic supply of hardware on hand!

do you have a build thread or any info about the one you made??




Yeah mate, we've built 5 so far, all of them different dimensions with different chamber sizes to accommodate varying run sizes. I posted my most recent one in Wax thread All our units are passive recovery, so it takes about 9 hours for us to reclaim the butane from one run. This lowers our processing power, but also makes for a much safer and complete extraction since the material is soaking while the N-tane is being xfer'd to the other holding tank.


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Edited by funkerdslr (11/28/13 01:54 PM)


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