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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19524308 - 02/05/14 09:11 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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5th day of February
Plants are no longer under strong light.. I have moved so only choice at the moment is one fluoro tube, soon I move these to windowsill to get stronger day light anyway.

I have not water these for a while, from now on I start to give dry and wet periods. Also I have started to keep the tray open so these are adjusted to dry air also.
Only one seedling I find rotten. Two of them I have take away and graft but later on I see how they attach to pereskiopsis..
Looking good imo.
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19525095 - 02/05/14 12:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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intelligentlife said: Looking good imo. 
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: SuperD]
#19564523 - 02/14/14 02:01 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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14th of Feb

Probably dehydration or strong light have caused tips to turn purple. I still hold watering to make sure this is dehydration.
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19608370 - 02/23/14 12:32 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I transplanted yesterday seedlings to new pot so they fit to windowsill and take stronger light at summer.
22th of February
I took seedlings out from tray with caution, using spoon is good trick to avoid root damage:

I add new fertile soil small amount to each pot this time:

Pots are ready and very easy to add to the windowsill when it's warm enough and longer days:

There are +100 trichocereus plants total count. Few of them I have take and grafted, I show grafted plant pictures later.
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19608476 - 02/23/14 01:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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intelligentlife said: I transplanted yesterday seedlings to new pot so they fit to windowsill and take stronger light at summer.
22th of February
I took seedlings out from tray with caution, using spoon is good trick to avoid root damage:

I add new fertile soil small amount to each pot this time:

Pots are ready and very easy to add to the windowsill when it's warm enough and longer days:

There are +100 trichocereus plants total count. Few of them I have take and grafted, I show grafted plant pictures later.
All hail the Kacti King
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: KBG1977]
#19679837 - 03/11/14 07:28 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Approx 3months since I sow hybrid trichocereus seeds, Got them from fellow shroomery member, I didn't count the seeds, I sow 3 different hybrids together and so on..
I nurse today some plants.. Also got enthusiastic to take pics from these trichs.
I have label these as "Australia" ..All 3 different cross breed, seeds are from Australia anyway.
I also count the seedlings I don't really know germination rate, I have just count plants there are per one pot. At summer I have more space at windowsill so I move them to sun to have some tan and good growth. 
Now these are so far under one 36W fluoro tube style light (some construction work light, CFL)
And the heat mat I use same time on I have my lights on. Over summer, I doesn't use heat mat for these, they are just easier to grow with some extra heat till certain age. Good results with lophs too.
11th day of March pics:
I add small layer of pumicide and regular rocks to support plants.. Under rocky surface, there is some soil and coco coir with perlite and rocks. Because of transplant, I need to add one layer more rocks to every pot surface to keep plants erected.
 Pot number #1 - 33 Seedlings
 Pot number #2 - 26 Seedlings
 Pot number #3 - 36 Seedlings So total of 95 own root and +5 grafted to pereskiopsis. I'll show grafted pics later, few of these I have take and just graft and they seems to be succeed.
Random pics, before and after watering 


One plant stunted and grow again as offshoot. Usually I see this with lophophora at this age.

Everyone ready for spring and sun light, day time is here about 11hours now and increasing 1hour/week
So I call these as patch "Australia Hybrid" from now on. Very interesting to see what kind of trichs there grow after some time.
Edited by intelligentlife (03/11/14 07:40 AM)
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19680029 - 03/11/14 09:06 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Beautiful hybrids you are lucky to posses them
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: lol98xlol98]
#19684753 - 03/12/14 09:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grafted seedlings from this patch. Growing under 36W CFL construction light
Edited by intelligentlife (03/12/14 09:12 AM)
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19684767 - 03/12/14 09:13 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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intelligentlife said: Grafted seedlings from this patch. Growing under 36W CFL construction light

Damn dude,you must have massive amounts of room in your house! I see new stuff every time I click on one of your posts!
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: KBG1977]
#19693879 - 03/14/14 01:59 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Excellent and informative glog IL
Really like the re-potting technique photos and your little Trichs are looking fantastic!
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: NarkedAt90ft]
#19718925 - 03/19/14 02:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was nursing my seedlings today.. Unlucky happening 
So I fucked up and drop pot of seedlings.. I run to take picture before I collect them from floor, back to pot. I tried to add them the way roots doesn't harm much, it' good they're not so young can't handle this. 
Because of I have injured left hand, I accidentally dropped pot of plants to ground, there was 36 plats..

I picked up cactus plants carefully without their roots damage much. Few plants was nicely in cluster and so on.

Planted back to pot, soil is bone dry. I wait some time and give good water shower from top for these and let plants grow. Well Accidents happens.. I think there is not much lost plants along them. Luckily I have 2 out of 3 pots of these hybrids ok. 

Going on!
Edited by intelligentlife (03/19/14 04:42 PM)
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19738103 - 03/23/14 07:46 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looking real good mate. 
Cheers Got
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: GoOnThen]
#19743853 - 03/25/14 12:28 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi there! Some update about..
Pot number #3 plants seems to have survived because I drop pot to the floor. 
Pics from 25th of March. I was take pics same time I watered my plants with fresh natural water.
Everyone

Pot number #1

Pot number #2

Pot number #3 (this is the pot what I have fucked up, can be seen at my last update)

Pot #3 ..Seedlings was long time dehydrated, reddish purple coloration because I didn't water them before I was sure roots are okey. Now they starts to get green again.. Afaik no plants died at accident!

Two another pots closer photos

Pot #1, most plants are biggest of everyone of these
Counting to grafted ones, there is 100 plants total.. For some reason own root trichs grow bigger, fatter and faster compared to pereskiopsis grafts. I think they delay some and start growth spurt soon..
Summer is coming, soon I present plants to different climate, no bottom heat, only strong light. I probably build filtered light box and slowly adjust these to light over summer.. These pots I have choose because these fit easily to windowsill. It seems trichs can be transplanted at very young age, I don't suggest, but it's ok if soil is bone dry.
I have kept these long time ago away from humid dome, only above heat mat and under 36W fluoro tube(construction work light and water proof)
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19777340 - 04/01/14 08:03 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Today I soak the soil of my tirch totally and moved them to southern windowsill to my kitchen. These have direct sun light few hours at day now.. I still keep heat mat under the plants without timer.. If it's cold day and no sun shine I can help with heat to plug the pad on.. It's small 10wattage heat pad, just fit enough under these 3 pots.
I find out purple coloration comes mostly from drought, not because too strong light. These really have been under 36W fluoro tube some time.. Now I start give these the real light. Sun..
1st day of April

I think after summer I have to repot these again to separate different looking plant before it's too late. Luckily even I drop one pot to ground as mistake, I don't see there is so much death seedlings because they drop to floor.
No I let nature do it's job.. Soaked soil good and add these to windowsill.. Now it's nice time, constantly clouds pass by the sun and light level constantly goes up and low.. Sun have usually caused trich to start take their appearance.
It's so fun to see these and finally start to treat these like my adults. The perspective of hybrid plants makes this more interesting project.
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19827884 - 04/11/14 11:09 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some update.
I have let these youngsters baked at southern windowsill 10days, Now I moved them under artificial light after some strong light.
They sure look like they have got maybe too much of sun but it's ok, I just wanted to stress those and introduce to stronger light.. Soon I move these back to windowsill to have stronger light and sun. Now I let these "recover" from 10days baking in sun.
I really feel the top spines are relatively strong and tough for that age plants.. Also color of plants say direct spring sun have probably be too much, well, that's my way to introduce plants to receive stronger light.. Next time I move these back to windowsill is day when it's cloudy and so on.. Then randomly move these to have sun and otherwise keep under fluoro lights..
These are not so adults yet but I can count some ribs from most of them.. There are 5-7 ribs at bigger plants. I soak soil for good only one time during 10time period at windowsill. Plants have enough soil it stays long time moist.
Only thing I am worried that one pot I managed to drop floor and then when I plant those back, some of them are packed to very tight clusters.. One plant I notice there is just tip of plant visible from ground level.. I just wonder when it's "too late" to move these to separate pots, anothers should not be problem but those I have planted again because I drop pot in to the ground I am worried of few clusters but I would not want to disturb them anymore so I let them be as they are.
And now to the pics! taken today 11th day of April 2014

More close up photos from different pots (2nd picture is the pot I have drop to ground and pick seedlings from ground and plant again)
 Sun have done some tricks and caused these to take some tan, some plants have maybe have too much sun but now I keep them few days under fluoro again, then slowly adjust these to real sun light.. Still I know these are probably too young to get constantly sun so I decided to move these back under fluoro for a while and then again I move these back and enjoy the sun.. when summer goes on I try to achieve to harden these enough they can be grown under sun and so on.

In this thread are mother plants of these hybrids and also at first post of this thread tell what hybrids there are growing.. I didn't count the seeds how much I had, but I sow them to 3 row's and all of these 3 hybrids have germinated, germination rate was pretty high compared to many trich seeds I have got.. In worst case I have got trichocereus seeds with 5-10% germination rate.. These was way more better and it's very delightful to see how these plants look later on down the road. Only few sudden death seedlings I can remember have occur, few seedlings I have grafted to pereskiopsis but for some reason they're stunted.. I moved those grafted ones to shade and hope they recover, They probably suffered too much sun and I forgot to water those grafted ones.
Well.. There's pics from seedlings baked in sun 10 days, atleast I can feel the top of the seedlings have been in sun, strong spines for these size trichs.
I probably have to transplant these after summer and increase the amount of pots. I don't want to grow these too long as crowded because I don't want these plants root bound together.
My plan is anyway grow 2-4 plant per pot later on when these have more size.. I don't have any extra space to grow but I have one year time to find out where I grow these next season... My plan is transplant these later on to pots and grow few plants what are similar to each others.
So far ~100 plants.. I just don't know what I do after few years. I should prepare some space for these later.
What you guys think about?
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19830112 - 04/11/14 08:18 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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They are looking great dude. 2-4 per pot sounds legit. Space will be needed! You have an army of spikes a comin.
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: lol98xlol98]
#19857623 - 04/17/14 12:03 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just took pics from seedlings, they have changed their color.
I have start nursing these after few days.. First of all I let them bake in strong spring sun and I kept those 10day at windowsill, now these have been 5days under fluoro and random light from surrounding windows. I have just spray small amount of rain water for these and let them have got some drink..
Seems plants have turn better when light level reduced and change happened in 5 days. I barely water these plants and let them dehydrate some before I water good again.. My "rainwater" is just snow smelted to pure natural water.. It's pretty acidic water compared to tap water.. I don't like to use tap water if I can pick fresh and clean snow to bucket and let it smelt.. Sometimes I collect big Ice chunks from outdoors and let them turn to water in container. Summer time I collect rainwater very much. About tap water of mine, it's pretty clean and barely leave a residues to plant like some tap water do. So it's ok when there is nothing else, it's just pretty alkaline and I need acid water to use.
I have take those pics today morning at 17th of April, 2014.
Single pot pictures:

All hybrids:

I have goal to get these good size enough and acclimatize these to sun by let those bake good under sun at southern window. Light filter would be perfect. I planted these to windowsill pots but it's too intense sun for these young trichs.
Some ribs starts visible at very top of seedlings. There all have approx 5-8ribs what starts to form.. I try to grow these pretty hard grown ones and many times I have let plants to shrink and get purple because lack of heat. But when I give nice shower of water they turn to very green and full of life living young plant.
I just try to test what age these are ready to take direct sun.. I am sure I probably transplant these after winter time have started and try to add about 10-15 plants per pot, now it's about 30 plant per pot approx. But this summer I let these grow and see how they do at fall and what size they are when dormant season starts. Winter drough is good time to transplant seedlings and my grown seedlings are usually adjusted to same care and watering what more older plants do. These trichs are just so easy to grow root bound, especially if there is lots of crowded plants. If they are too long next to another, they're really root bound and simply just hard to get separted.
I have think to start planting these to few pots.. I move seedlings based on appearance at proper age and see how it goes. This just stressing, I have no more room for cactus than these 10x10cm pots.. Too crowded garden. Lophophora plants I have kept under very strong sun and they tolerate strong sun very good.. They are just at shade of most other plants and therefor not so much light but strong light enough.
Probably late season these plants have time to move containers and do 10-13 plants per container. Slowly I need to move these separately to avoid them grow too much attached to near by plants from roots. I see in one year or two, I have stuff to do with these. 
I have just fertilized these by spraying fertilizers from top and let soil get moist at surface but not totally.. I have mixed some dark and fertile soil with high Nitrogen amount.. When I moved these to 3 containers, I add some dark soil to coco coir and rock mix to act as fertilizer in soil over the time. I never use organic material when grow from seed. Usually I add organic soil to growing medium is time when I transplant or so and I always add new fertile soil in to the mix..
My oldest trichs grow basically in in soil where I don't use coco coir so much.. Still I fertilize my trichs very usually at summer.. Now it's just waiting and adjusting to let these hybrids be possible to have them over summer used to be under direct sun.. Or I try to build some shade cloth to give strong but diffused light to all.
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19859113 - 04/17/14 09:34 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking great IL.
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: intelligentlife]
#19862889 - 04/17/14 10:53 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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They look amazing! They've really come a long way!
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Re: [My grow blog] Trichocereus hybrids from seed! [Re: Joker Flash]
#19930155 - 05/02/14 12:42 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pics from 2nd day of May 2014
I have kept these two week under fluoro and move these back to sun light and take pics same time.
Some plants starts form ribs. One pot what I managed to drop and plants was around my floor seems they're smaller but I just planted them more deeper than another. So far these do pretty good. I have so far count ribs from 5 to 8. Differences are probably visible better at next season.


 I think these are soon proper size to be able take direct sun at windowsill. Today sun shines but these are going to have only evening sun. I probably need to transplant these after this season to be able separate plants from others. Depends how much these grow over summer. I have been quite careful with water and these barely got water under fluoro tube light over 2 weeks. These have been many times pretty dehydrated but managed to survive with few drops of water. I am trying to acclimatize these to sun light and away from heat mat over summer.. I need those heat mats for younger seedlings anyway and these seems to do fine without excess heat so far. That's one reason I have not watered them so much because I need to learn watering again because heat mat tend to dry soil faster. I use heating only for mexican desert cactus plants from seedling to adults.. Trichs will have extra heat only first months.
Edited by intelligentlife (05/02/14 12:48 AM)
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