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San pedro "toffee" extract - How long can I keep it? + Potency Test Trip Report
    #19194802 - 11/27/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi Everyone

I hope this is the right place to post this. I posted this in the Psycedelic experience about 10 days ago with no replies. In hindsight I think this might be a better place to put it.

About a 6 weeks ago I extracted some San Pedro gunk from a few pounds of cactus. I did a few quick pressure cooker pulls(till the water was pretty much clear) with water70%/lemon juice30%. Then I put it all together and on stove top got it just warm enough for a little steam to rise, with a fan on it I slowly reduced it to a nice thick syrup. The syrup went into a flat dish that was in the oven on 50C/122F with the door cracked and a fan blowing into it. Over quite some time this got reduced to a thick black sticky toffee mass. I then liberally coated it in olive oil and coated a blade in some as well, I find the oil helps it not stick everywhere and to the blade. It was the most natural lube I could think of.

Then I split, with a scale, the gunk into pieces that equal 450gr/1 pound of cactus. I chopped it up into small capsule like size pellets. Still being quite oily from using the olive oil I rolled the bits into balls and coated with flour. Each 450gr portion was then put in a ziplock and placed in the freezer. Its so easy to consume this way. Its like drinking capsules without the gelatine mass. I get a nice juice and just drop those pellets with a gulp of juice.

My question is how long will that last for in my fridge`s little freezer? I was planning to eat it pretty soon but due to blah blah blah I dont see myself eating any of that before the end of the year. And it is allready a month old. I think it should be good for a few months? I cant see why not if its in a freezer?




And here is a little potency test report for anyone interested..

Of course I Had to test the product to gauge future doses.

I did eat about 380gr worth of this toffee as a tester to see if it was at least a threshold dose. I think the gunk absorbs slowly, more so than I thought or expected. I ate it in the morning on an empty stomache. I felt something in about 2 hours, it increased slowly all through the day though, I did not smoke any herb for the first 10 hours and had definite effects. Physical feelings and a clear pulsing of my vision at the edges, slowly getting more through the day. At one point I was meditating and with closed eyes the pulse was through my whole vision,  leaving a burnt after image that looked like an orb in the centre, with fading arms stretching out. This flashed with each pulse and faded slowly before the next pulse, almost like a bright light flashing in my eyes in a dark room. Apart from the pulsing no OEV, but a sense that objects wanted to just begin to slide. Colours were vivid and crisp. Emotions stirred a bit. Quite a tight jaw. Definitly above threshold.

But then..... around hour 11. I smoked herb, I'm a daily smoker who at this point has not smoked any bud for over a week so tolerance was returning. Its amazing how strong pot can be after a few weeks quit. hahahahaha

It got radically diffrent. Lights became very fuzzy and bled alot into my vision. Alot of "pixel noise". All the edges of everything was really blurry and wide, and kind of blended into each other, like spraypaint overspray. At hour 12 I was in a restaurant in a full on virtual reality tv game space. Able to zone in on any conversation and still hearing them all as one, but seperate. It was quite an enjoyable auditory experience like I have never had before. So many voices at once from so many directions and so aware of them all. And at the same time having this huge awareness of all my senses feeding info into my consciousness and having to pilot my body with this info. Having to give it instructions on what to do and when. Very aware of the happenings of piloting a body. It was fun but quite intense in a disconnecting manner, but not disturbing. Although I did not eat all day I wasnt very hungry, but ate anyway, It was quite a process of commands and actions to eat this food, with these tools (knife and fork) they gave me. At hour 14 back home I decide to go lay in the dark and when I turn the lights out my alarm clock with bright red LCD digits bleeds speckles and splatters of red light through my entire vision. Almost like a black and red camouflage pattern suspended in front of me and made of light. I spent a few more hours getting stoned and having my vision fuzz out before I go to bed and eventually drift to sleep.

Not having much experience with cactus/mescaline I think there are some interesting times in those bags. I was quite surprised to see how long it had effect for and how it slowly got stronger and stronger. at hour 10-14 it was by far the most intense, granted i smoked 3 joints on a cleanish system right about then, I was buzzing like a electricity box, physically and mentally.

I look forward to eating again and having more:crazy2:  I just dont want to risk getting ill or anything bad. Although I have a feeling it will last pretty long in the freezer.


Thanks for any advice.
WL


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Re: San pedro "toffee" extract - How long can I keep it? + Potency Test Trip Report [Re: Whiplash]
    #19194834 - 11/27/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi Whiplash, this is off topic for the EG. The Psychedelic Experience was the correct forum.

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  • Stay on topics related to the gardening and growing of ethnobotanicals/entheobotanicals.

  • No dosage advice. Please take these queries to The Psychedelic Experience forum. Some dosage advice will be tolerated for the more rare ethnobotanicals/entheogens as other forums may not have this knowledge. The main focus of this forum is about growing plants. Remember this.





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Re: San pedro "toffee" extract - How long can I keep it? + Potency Test Trip Report (moved) [Re: Whiplash]
    #19194835 - 11/27/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Ethnobotanical Garden.

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OT for the garden.


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Re: San pedro "toffee" extract - How long can I keep it? + Potency Test Trip Report (moved) [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #19194840 - 11/27/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry about that.

Thanks!


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Re: San pedro "toffee" extract - How long can I keep it? + Potency Test Trip Report (moved) [Re: Whiplash]
    #19194883 - 11/27/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well the fresher the better of course, but mescaline is way more stable than LSD or psilocybin. you should be fine.


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