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#19179043 - 11/23/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hadnt smoked weed for almost 3 months. Because i was just becoming burnt out so i just took a break, for as long as i could.
On sunday i picked up an 8th of northern lights. During monday i was just taking pipe hits during the day to keep a buzz going, its cool like old times. On the tuesday i decided to roll a joint, and smoke it myself. I smoked about a quarter of it. Felt chilled kind of paranoid but im strong minded i know how to not let my mind get carried away. About 30mins later i smoke about the rest of the joint leaving a 1/4 left. I feel like shit, i just had to put my head down as my head felt weird as fuck, spinning, dizzy , panic, chaotic. I go in the house, and i start feeling hungry, but im still feeling bad. I open a tuna can, and my head get all weird, stressy, loud, paranoid. I hear voices saying careful dont cut your self and going on and on, repeating itself. I tell myself o shit great this this is what scizophrenia is like i got it. Then i tell my self to chill i go to the couch. Everything is spinning i my mind doesnt feel right. And i feel sick. I cant even open my eyes as the light makes want to puke even more. I HAVE to stay so still otherwise i would deffiently puke. I had to stay so still almost as my mind was chilled enough to meditate. But then id move and snap out and straight away feel like puking. I stayed still again going into the weird very high meditative state, almost being like a very low shroom closed eye visuals. Then id snap out and move and then i puked 3 times. After puking i felt alittle better and got to bed and i zoned out into the meditative state and fell asleep. Wtf happen? Can i have scizophrenia? I felt really paranoid and caotic in the mind until i made my mind blank which then lead into a meditative state by telling myself im just high relax.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: elchegue]
#19179061 - 11/23/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like me on weed and I have schizophrenia, but I never got any voices, except when I stayed up for 40+ hours once.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: circastes]
#19180697 - 11/23/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey man, sounds like either bad weed, or you smoked to much also i get into a pyschosis when i smoke. i sugest just 1-10 hits, anymore your wasting w3ed, n spread them out, it makes the session last longer. also big up either lower grade weed, or just from a dif kid just in case. my 2 sense.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: Endure]
#19182355 - 11/24/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you smoke joints with tobacco?
Do you normally smoke cigarettes?
Could have been a severe panic attack too. That in combination with being too high can fuck you up real good.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: Tripsurfer]
#19182810 - 11/24/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes i mixed it with tobacco and i smoke tobacco regulary too. Yes could be does that mean im mentaly messed up or got underlying mental issues?
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: elchegue]
#19182829 - 11/24/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No not at all!
It means that a severe anxiety attack can have pretty severe physical effects too. People get hospitalized sometimes only to find they had a severe panic attack.
That and smoking too much can make you feel shitty too, it just happens sometimes
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: elchegue]
#19183893 - 11/24/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't worry dude, I don't think it was schizophrenia so much as a panic attack which can happen to anyone when they feel overwhelmed. Needless to say, don't smoke so much next time, your tolerance it probably mad low.
I get like that if I smoke a whole fat spliff to my face sometimes. I get the spins, feel nausea, my mind races and every thought just makes me feel worse. I often have to lay down and just wait it out, it always goes away.
Are you mixing your weed with tobbaco? Weed alone spikes dopamine, and so does nicotine. If you drank caffeine recently too that also spikes dopamine. Dopamine, when too high, makes you feel really paranoid. People who are legit schizophrenic have too much dopamine it's theorized.
That being said, if your feeling really stressed out maybe take another break till shit settles down. My roomate this year had a lot of stressful shit going on and smoked constantly until he started showing signs of schizophrenia. I'm not trying to scare you I think your fine, and my roomate seemed unaware of his actions, but if you seriously think you might have an underlying thing you don't wanna open up that can of worms haha.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: jimboob]
#19187475 - 11/25/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe try a small amount and see how you go? Like a really tiny cone, 1/5 of the cone piece or something. If you get any of this again, you might be predisposed. I had the smallest, tiniest little cone to see if it was just a tolerance thing for me kind of recently and it just did exactly what a full cone would do only to a lesser intensity (thank god). Like I said I am predisposed. It's not tolerance for me, so here's maybe a way to find out.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: circastes]
#19187893 - 11/25/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm going to go out on a climb and say straight up I think weed causes schizophrenia.
I know all to familiarly what you have experienced. High doses of JWH, which is not weed, but in a similar family, have caused my thoughts to go like this: "CAT, DOG, CAR, TREE, RED, YELLOW, SCREAM". Not sure if I was hearing these thoughts from voices or they were from my own mind. Paranoid as FUCK and hallucinating. Man, weed is the same animal only tamer. If you are doing dabs and hash you are inviting this mindset and I really really am convinced weed and schizophrenia go hand in hand.
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I am actually convinced weed can cause schizophrenia, and it's even more likely to than psychedelics, from my own experience with drugs. I think I've commented about it a few times on here.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: elchegue]
#19188253 - 11/25/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
elchegue said: but im strong minded i know how to not let my mind get carried away.
I guess not
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: Anonymous #1]
#19189014 - 11/25/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Schizophrenia usually means a protracted condition. I would avoid weed if that is all that causes it, particularly strains high in THC like Northern Lights.
Edited by Hygrocybe (11/26/13 12:26 PM)
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: Hygrocybe]
#19189349 - 11/25/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dont believe the hype that it doesn't go away,
also remember, sometimes your just going through a rough time in life n don't have this shit, you just have side-effects from whatever bulshit is happening that your mind is paused on. go see a therapist.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: Endure]
#19191790 - 11/26/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's true, I shouldn't have said that it's permanent.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: Hygrocybe]
#19193275 - 11/26/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think it's permanent either. In some cases, the amount of regeneration necessary is going to take longer than the lifespan, and those people are usually completely withdrawn from reality; talking to themselves, violence, uncontrollable crying... etc. If you're only at the start of the spectrum, like negative symptoms and a bit of paranoia, you're going to get back to good mental health it's just going to rely on how fast your brain fixes the problem.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: circastes]
#19193762 - 11/26/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You took too much man, too much too much.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: LysergicX7]
#19194506 - 11/26/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would we say this seriously? I want to add in my experience with weed to be evaluated.
I started smoking at around 15. We hotboxed and I took a good 3 hits and inhaled deeply, exhale, get high. Instantly, it felt like I was becoming removed from my body. I stared at the seat in front of me and it felt like I was in space seeing the different colored dots everywhere transform into stars. I would be sitting for what felt like hours, listening to conversation, only to freak out about my parents wondering where I might be and check the phone and see maybe max, 3 minutes had passed. They dropped me off at home and halfway walking to my house (long driveway from the street, we lived behind aanother house) I thought I heard them yell at me to see what's up. I turned around to see them already gone... Oh shit, lol okay let's get home. I went in, immediately got water then crashed for like 3 hours. I was hooked.
I'd buy grams, getting fucking ripped off for like $20 a gram as a sophomore but little did anyone know, one small hit would DESTROY me. It wasn't uncommon for a whole gram to last for 2 months, almost daily "toking" of a half hit at night. Soon, I began hearing my mother crying at night when I would be smoking in my room. So, I would hide everything and be ready to fess up, only to go out into the kitchen and hear her and my father deeply asleep snoring and such. Ok, quite strange. Then, it got worse. I began hearing fire burning in my room. Small, faint screams, a voice saying, "Son why are you doing this to us? Why do you keep smoking?"... and it got worse.
At one point, I began being so afraid, I couldn't sleep without a nightlight on. I would believe that demons were possessing my mother and brother trying to trick me to close my eyes in the dark so they could kill me. My trip, documented in my signature, made me hear these voices as if they were normal. "We've always been with you!". 2 completely separate voices speaking to me. This all sounds like schizo right?
What I found strange though, was a A) I seemed to somehow actually become "possessed" by a musical genius voice. Beats and entire songs would be completely made. Stuff that give Kanye in his early days a run for his money. Stuff that KiD CuDi would bop his head to and say that's the shit. It seems to only happen when I am alone, high, and able to lose focus of reality and not try to hide and simply let go IE in darkness without talking. B) None of these traits are or were ever present when I WAS NOT HIGH. Actually, I haven't smoked since May or so. Ever since my hard 4-aco experience, fear itself is almost entirely gone. I believed I was going insane and upon recuperating mid trip, I felt relief. I now plan to take some L in my possession very soon.
To the people actually with schizophrenia, does this sound schizophrenic at all? Am I just over exaggerating? Actually, my brother who is like straight up addicted to weed does not display any of these traits. He seems to really just get crazy relaxed but to me, sound stupid as hell. When we tripped 4-aco, where I was discovering life, crying of joy, and overall learning of myself, he was laughing at the stupidest shit, more interested in how funny my voice was than my explanation of ownership, and seemed to not learn much. Where he aspires to be rich, yet does not seem to have the intellectual capacity to achieve this goal, I personally do not wish to have more than my fair share and do have the ability to make it happen comparatively.
I thought that was all important to rule out predisposition or genetics.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: circastes]
#19194602 - 11/26/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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circastes said: I am actually convinced weed can cause schizophrenia Dementia, and it's even more likely to than psychedelics, from my own experience with drugs. I think I've commented about it a few times on here.
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Re: weed made paranoid and sick [Re: circastes]
#19194822 - 11/27/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah weed may onset and be the cause of schizophrenia...
but again, if you quit weed, things most likely will return to normalcy after awhile, you will have withdrawals if your a chronic user. So usually you just have symptoms of schizophrenia on marijuana, not actually have schizophrenia.
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