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Invisibleund3rw0rld

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has anyone
    #1919431 - 09/15/03 09:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

had success using chicken poop in the place of horse or cow poop? my buddy planned to mix it with some cow poop


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Re: has anyone [Re: und3rw0rld]
    #1919467 - 09/15/03 09:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

lil help


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Re: has anyone [Re: und3rw0rld]
    #1919475 - 09/15/03 09:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

it should work IMO... But as it contains phosphorus, you better use some more buffer...


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Re: has anyone [Re: ph_plus]
    #1919482 - 09/15/03 09:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i wouldn't use it. jackel has tried it he said he had no luck.


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Re: has anyone [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #1919488 - 09/15/03 09:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ty for the replies guys...


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Re: has anyone [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #1919489 - 09/15/03 09:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

just use straw. its not popular but it works and makes the shrooms 10 times as potent.


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Re: has anyone [Re: ph_plus]
    #1919490 - 09/15/03 09:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It's probably not going to work. I've seen just a little too much pot ash used in gardens and it killed the plants.


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Re: has anyone [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #1919509 - 09/15/03 10:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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preschooler said:
just use straw. its not popular but it works and makes the shrooms 10 times as potent.




IMHO what you just said is just not true. Straw is a popular substrate and it doesn't make the mushrooms any more potent. If you have proof, I'd like to see the log of your controlled experiment ending with a laboratory report of psilocin/psilocybin content compared against shrooms grow using the exact same environment, i.e. humidity, light, substrate depth, and temperature. You saying that you can tell the difference isn't going to convince anyone with some understanding of the psilocybe mushroom.


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Re: has anyone [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1919511 - 09/15/03 10:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

imo straw doesnt make the shrooms more potent just bigger on the first flush...i know about straw as this was not a straw related queston but thnx for the reply


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Re: has anyone [Re: und3rw0rld]
    #1919521 - 09/15/03 10:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

no offense but preschooler that was by far the dumbest answer to my question possible ....


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Re: has anyone [Re: und3rw0rld]
    #1919605 - 09/15/03 10:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Watch the ph! Bird poop is usually very acidic.


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Re: has anyone [Re: Demiurge]
    #1919650 - 09/15/03 10:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

hey maybe i am a fucking idiot. and maybe my answer was dumb.

and i have no log or posting that can prove what i said was true.

but i can say this.
when mycelium network is stronger and bigger don't you think that the shrooms that come off that network are goin to be more potent than 1/2 pint cake.

and i do know from personal experience.
ive tried shrooms off cakes and shrooms off of straw that were in the same growing enviroment. they are 10 timez as potent. so maybe when you guys try this maybe you can tell me something but until then:)

oh and one other thing ur question was dumb not my answer because if you read around or the faqs maybe you wouldn't be asking dumb questions.


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Re: has anyone [Re: Demiurge]
    #1919651 - 09/15/03 10:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i tried pigeon poo mixed with cow dung for my last batch... With my tiny little experience ( :smile: ), the yields seem to be increased... And Demiurge is right on the PH stuff... You can't have more then 2 flushes if you don't use more buffering element... And i strongly advice you to mix it with horse/cow dung...


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    #1919658 - 09/15/03 10:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: has anyone [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1919698 - 09/15/03 10:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

oh and another thing get your question straight. are you using chicken shit in the place of horse or cow poo. or are you mixing it?


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Re: has anyone [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1919708 - 09/15/03 10:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hey KuSsH, let us know if the shrooms off of your logs are 10X as potent as shrooms off of cakes that you have grown. I want to see if preschooler is right.

Lets see, that would mean that you can eat .5 gm from straw and trip just as hard as 5 gm from cakes.



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Re: has anyone [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #1919722 - 09/15/03 10:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

preschooler said:
hey maybe i am a fucking idiot. and maybe my answer was dumb.

and i have no log or posting that can prove what i said was true.

but i can say this.
when mycelium network is stronger and bigger don't you think that the shrooms that come off that network are goin to be more potent than 1/2 pint cake.

and i do know from personal experience.
ive tried shrooms off cakes and shrooms off of straw that were in the same growing enviroment. they are 10 timez as potent. so maybe when you guys try this maybe you can tell me something but until then:)

oh and one other thing ur question was dumb not my answer because if you read around or the faqs maybe you wouldn't be asking dumb questions. 




They may be stronger then the ones grown with cakes... But that is not the answer to his question... His question was about poo... And if i tell i.e. "shrooms grown on dung are 10x potent then the ones grown on cakes" without any scientific proof, that wouldn't be the answer either IMO... I made cakes using straw and the water which some cow dung is soaked in... The fruits were satisfying compared to the ones grown on dung+straw, pure dung or pure straw.... More straw means stronger first flushes, that's right... But the next flushes will be weaker... ( Karma... :grin: ) The idea of this msg is that, don't flame it.... This place is for sharing... :smile: And i agree with preschooler about you reading the FAQ... Almost everything you need to cultivate shrooms is there .....somewhere..... 


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Re: has anyone [Re: Ekstaza]
    #1919741 - 09/15/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ok ok maybe im exagerating maybe 3x to 5x. i just know when ive eaten 2.5 grams of cake shrooms i wass just seeing tracers mild colors and shit. straw shrooms i had a big green globe around me the entire time. and the trees grew up to the heavens. i appologize for my backwoods behavior. you know i caught 30lb fish the other day and he was bigger than me.


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    #1919743 - 09/15/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: has anyone [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1919753 - 09/15/03 11:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

hahahhahhahah:)


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