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    #8380815 - 05/09/08 05:12 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

has anyone read any H.P. Lovecraft? boo.


personally I love his writing!
I appreciate him as a writer, a thinker, and a freak.

although he was pretty racist, that sucks.

but anyway
philosophically
one could say quite negative

..err..pretty much,

Man lives in a universe vastly larger than his pathetic comprehension,
one can only glimse the horrors of the beyond,
and even from this small window,
one would shrink in horror and madness to a frightened excistense,
our fall into madness screaming for sweet death to take away the knowledge of the ancient ones..

ugh,
pretty grim ..

or in his own words

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."

depressing, maybe.
But I assure that his writing is superb.


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: shaggy101]
    #8380819 - 05/09/08 05:16 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i read a little of his stuff, i like his overall style and content but i found it a little slow and boring......

i don't remember any racism though?.......


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: grymmtymm]
    #8380856 - 05/09/08 05:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

In "Herbert West - Reanimator," Lovecraft gives an account of a just-deceased African-American male. He asserts:

" He was a loathsome, gorilla-like thing, with abnormally long arms that I could not help calling fore legs, and a face that conjured up thoughts of unspeakable Congo secrets and tom-tom poundings under an eerie moon. The body must have looked even worse in life - but the world holds many ugly things "

..theres more stuff like that under the link,

The kind of racism he hints at(although, yes rarely)
in his stories is subtle but there.

I think he was actually afraid of immigrants,
I got this idea from some of his stories that centralize in New York City.

anyway,
do remeber he wrote 100 years ago( not that that excuses his racist POV, just explains it more..)

Do you remember which stories you've read?

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Re: Lovecraft [Re: shaggy101]
    #8381081 - 05/09/08 09:07 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I love The Silver Key. Psychedelic writing if there is any. And even if he was racist, that was the norm at the time. I'm sure tones of other historical figures were also racist fucks.

But yeah, The Silver Key. It's less horror, more AWESOME. That guy was major fucked up though.


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: AlCapwn]
    #8381509 - 05/09/08 11:47 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I adore H.P. Lovecraft. A lot of people like his Cthulhu mythos, what with the Elder Gods and Azathoth the bubbling primordial nuclear chaos, but I've always preferred his Dream Quest for Kadath fantasy universe--especially as Lovecraft somehow manages to loosely tie all his stories together. His writing style's a tad archaic, but his massive over-use of adjectives somehow makes the horror more bonechilling.

I'd highly recommend At The Mountains of Madness for anyone who hasn't gotten into Lovecraft... hidden cities and forgotten gods lurking deep beneath Antarctica FTW.


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: shaggy101]
    #8382053 - 05/09/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

no, i don't remember which ones i've read, but i have three books all by del ray that are somewhat like a series, or volumes, with some cool artwork on them. haven't read through all of them.


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: deCypher]
    #8395483 - 05/13/08 04:19 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

His writing style's a tad archaic, but his massive over-use of adjectives somehow makes the horror more bonechilling.




  :cool2:

err..

what all stories are "conjoined"
in this Kadath deal

At The Mountains of Madness

is definitely a brainfuck

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Re: Lovecraft [Re: shaggy101]
    #8396030 - 05/13/08 10:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

"Polaris" (1918)
"Beyond the Wall of Sleep" (1919)
"The Doom That Came to Sarnath" (1919)
"The White Ship" (1919)
"The Cats of Ulthar" (1920)
"Celephaïs" (1920)
"The Quest of Iranon" (1921)
"The Other Gods" (1921)
"Hypnos" (1922)
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath (1926)
"The Silver Key" (1926)
"The Strange High House in the Mist" (1926)
"At the Mountains of Madness" (reference only) (1931)
"Through the Gates of the Silver Key" (with E. Hoffmann Price) (1932)


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: AlCapwn] * 1
    #19193242 - 11/26/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

AlCapwn said:
I love The Silver Key. Psychedelic writing if there is any. And even if he was racist, that was the norm at the time. I'm sure tones of other historical figures were also racist fucks.

But yeah, The Silver Key. It's less horror, more AWESOME. That guy was major fucked up though.




The Silver Key is one of my favorite stories. It's short, about 10 pages. Here's a link, be sure to read! http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/sk.aspx


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: dragonbread] * 1
    #19193440 - 11/26/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The Dream Quest of the Unknown Kaddath rules...


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #19194126 - 11/26/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
The Dream Quest of the Unknown Kaddath rules...




*Kadath


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: deCypher]
    #19194178 - 11/26/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's been 20 years since I read it back in the day...lol.


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #19194204 - 11/26/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The primordial bubbling nuclear chaos of Azazoth experiences no time, FOOL!


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: shaggy101]
    #19194216 - 11/26/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I love reading lovecraft. I get incredibly swept up in his tales of horror. I can feel the terror of his protagonists as they stumble down ancient cyclopean hallways wondering at what moment some evil foetid gooish monster will emerge to take him/her to distant realms of chaos and morbidity.



This reminds me, I still have quite a few of his tales left to read. I may have to put Moby Dick aside (it's kind of tough to get through anyway rofl) and wander down those cyclopean hallways again.


I love how he personifies the dark mysteries of the universe with his ghoulish fiends and ancient aliens.





:ancientaliens:


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: ReginaldPMcpoop]
    #19194243 - 11/26/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

IDK, wouldn't you say that he does the opposite of personify the mysteries of the universe?  What makes Lovecraft so chilling, IMO, is that he perfectly encapsulates our fear that there are forces out there that are simply out of human comprehension and/or anthropomorphization/personification.  Sometimes we're just faced with the deep dark black abyss of the Unknown, and that Unknown doesn't know any such human emotion as good or evil.  :hehehe:


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: deCypher]
    #19194260 - 11/26/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Good point. Personify was not the correct word to use, in general.


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Re: Lovecraft [Re: ReginaldPMcpoop] * 1
    #19194271 - 11/26/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps I should have said that he manifests the dark mysteries of the universe with his ghoulish fiends and ancient aliens?
I DUNNO





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