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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: backfire16]
    #19193997 - 11/26/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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mio said:
You dont need psychedelics to make the change..

it just happened to help me

have overcome depression before, by cycling 20km often :-)

cant feel depressed after that, works in the winter too

natural endorphins+ sleep good after it, and relaxed most of the day after it
no worries after it either

or sit in nature/walk in nature

you can cycle 20km on any bicycle, even a $100 one, easily
I enjoy cycling, in any weather

just a quick mail.. you make the change, noone else can make the change for you
there is usually a reason for being depressed... maybe you are doing something you dont enjoy




I exercise, eat well, play sports and workout almost everyday, funny that you mentioned this because that's what I'm studying in school.

I have a decent understanding of the effect exercise has on neurotransmitters and over-all feelings of well being and I'll admit it helps somewhat but not much. For a lot of people it can be life-changing though.

I understand that depression is always caused by something, in my case it seems like it is my sense of apathy towards everything that I can't shake but know I need to shake.





Take the time to read Becker's take on depression and it's causes.  It just might ring true for you.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: Icelander]
    #19194081 - 11/26/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the input everybody!


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: backfire16]
    #19194403 - 11/26/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP, have you ever experienced Samadhi?


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: deCypher]
    #19195464 - 11/27/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what you experience through drugs is a sense reality brought to life out of powers to do so, this is a very bad thing

the main negative fact, is what you are taking drugs so the sense of reality is not experienced at all

to experience reality sense in truth, the present awareness must give away a sense of being to another or different present living
but it must be done truly, so the other must be respected really as being present, and for something particularly objective..so you should give away a sense of being to something nice or someone right seen presently, so you can have an objective perception of others relatively to you but also a perception of the whole situation present including you, relatively to positive existence rights in truth value

the result would be about being less without hearing yourself in being while others would show up being more real, then a self adjustment is what leads a reality to get a form

the word enlightenment, confirms it, how by becoming less heavy of you positively by being lighter for else objective respect in being right, then you get transported to another realm of existence dimensions, where any and all seem to become more precise of its detailed reality 

but when you are taking drugs you cant see the other nor else being, all you can vision is the whole and you, which become creepy as soon as you realize it, so you get to the truth of it how the whole is having powers over you and how you are what don't do anything at all so a looser in the big picture concerning you, deforming totally what you are for powers life superiority over you

when you take drugs there cant be anything good, because there is nothing that cares for you there
and what the situation seem to be intelligent is an illusion, it is nothing but traps of powers on inferior individuality's, we are perceived as animals, done to serve powers of our beings ..

you should try to revolt and use any negative experience for that
try to see how dark it is

then you could make a big decision like going to real life, of something you could enjoy the idea of going to
just try to enjoy others while being sober, see them as when you take drugs but in real ..

try to hate powers and be proud of yourself with others particularly, because the more you are objective the more powers cant catch you
don't believe anything especially the truth, don't love anything .. the main point is the pride of yourself being .. makes it true so relative of course to you alone


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: backfire16]
    #19195515 - 11/27/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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In order to get my question across I'll have to tell you a little bit about myself.

I found this site in my late teens, around 17. I had started smoking pot quite regularly and was offered to purchase some mushrooms from an acquaintance. From a young age I had always used the internet as a resource to learn about everything and anything I was interested in.

After coming here and visiting numerous other drug related sites I started reading from other posters about how psychedelics could alter my perception of reality and more or less make me "enlightened", "feel at one with everything", be at peace with myself and on it goes.

I have to say for the past almost 4 years that's a dream I have been chasing. Chasing this one drug experience that is going to change my whole thought process and make me content and at peace with things.

Over the years the only psychedelic I had come across was mushrooms, I've tripped probably well over 20 times, high and low dose and not once have I ever had an experience as described above. It often causes me to think about my life and all my issues and problems and helps me to think about them in a constructive way but as soon as I wake up the next morning that whole feeling is gone and it's like I'm back to square one.

My thought process was that it must be that the mushrooms just really don't do it for me and I need to try LSD to have this life changing experience.

2 months ago I finally got LSD for the first time. Since then I have had the chance to try LSD multiple times.

After hearing stuff like Steve Jobs saying acid was one of the two or three most important things he ever did in his life, I was convinced LSD would have this same effect on me, but once again I didn't come to any profound realizations, state of enlightenment or feel like I really benefited from it much at all.

It's almost like I'm stuck in this mode of thinking that the only thing that is going to fix my way of thinking is this one massive experience. Part of me is still hoping that maybe DMT, Ayahuasca, Peyote or even Ibogaine will do this for me. Most of me believes this is an irrational belief but part of me is holding onto it, pursuing it.

I feel like all I've gained over my years of drug use have been a bit more empathy, become a little better at reading people's thoughts and emotions, but who's to say that's not something that just came with age? I can definitely say that I now suffer from depression and anxiety which was never a problem before using.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is: do you believe that a psychedelic experience can really change your world view, the way you think? Take someone who is suffers from anxiety and depression and in one sweep, turn it around?

For the record I posted this here as I've always felt this crowd has been the most rational crowd. I used to believe everything I read on these forums and on the internet and slowly over time by reading posts by people in this sub-froum, such as OC and Icelander, I feel I have been able to become a much better critical thinker.





Haha, that's just how I started out. Thinking I've found the holy grail. Enlightenment in a pill.

Six years down the line and I've ended up with a horrible anxiety problem and no enlightenment. I really blew it, I thought. I took these drugs (mushrooms in particular) often and in high doses, as high as 7 gram of dried cubes at a time. At the time I didn't know but, apparently I am freakishly sensitive to drugs in general. A little something I found out when after a conversation with my friends I realised that I had unmistakably been tripping much harder than they ever had from the same amounts each and every time. So this meant I was gobbling a metaphorical 14 grams of dried cubes every month or so for a few years straight. Boy, at one point- I was a complete mess. A complete idiot too. Chasing that fabled enlightenment of psychedelics had lead me to some pretty irrational thinking and had scrambled my mind pretty good. Every time I'd trip I'd feel enlightened and all that. Once i got down- i was back to baseline, like you describe yourself. It all climaxed with an intense anxiety problem developing, which brought to surface all the negative things inside me. That year was a living hell.

BUT!

Interestingly enough. Once I took a long break from drugs and rethought some things- things got a lot better. I decided to discard the whole psychedelic enlightenment thing and just allowed myself to experience whatever I had to experience. And not every month, but once or thrice every year. Not insanely high doses anymore for this fella either. My first trip after these reconsiderations of my tripping philosophy and right after getting somewhat of a grip on my anxiety problem- was an intense 'bad' trip. But it wasn't "bad" per se, it was in retrospect one of the best experiences I've had. But it was torment though. All my dark aspects and existential dreads came to light since psychedelics were no longer my salvation. I realised that I was now empty and without direction and i accepted that fact because I knew it was true, I would not dare try and fool myself all over again. I was being mangled for what seemed like an eternity, barely hanging onto my sanity.

I thought I was well and thoroughly fucked and that ill never get over this. But what happened instead was that it all culminated with an incredibly powerful realisation about myself that I actually thought out myself after all my defences had been obliterated. Which made it so much more powerful than a random psychedelic thought. It manifested in this intense scene in my minds eye and I was weeping so hard, I must have been drooling and snotting like crazy, my tears mixing with the whole thing on my entire face. It was SO amazing though. Like painfully releasing something that had built up. I stood up and walked to the shower and put myself under a stream of ice-cold water. Everything exploded and once I came out of it- I felt an intense feeling of 'resolving' washed over me.

I had gotten the spiritual experience I had been chasing before and it wasn't something that my past-self would have been prepared or willing to handle... that pussy :lol:

Actual, tangible knowledge that has guided me ever since. After the shower I sat down and I kid you not- I felt the most intense super-soberness and zen vibe in my entire life, completely different from the psychedelic ecstasy I had usually mistaken for so called enlightenment. Of course, the experience wasn't finite and the knowledge I gained wasn't the actual answer to my entire life, but because of the intense zen experience- i now felt a sense of direction. I had a task. So apparently I had been 'fixed' in that aspect.

Anyway, since that experience the way I trip and the trips themselves have changed. I feel like I can manoeuvre inside them and by activating certain thoughts and behaviours (including those months or years prior to tripping) I can yield certain experiences that affect me in a way one could call "enlightening". thing is- i dont believe in psychedelic enlightenment. But i do believe in self-sublimity, which is more of a process. So these necessary life experiences are tied together by trips and the trips are tied together by the necessary experiences. In the long term, I slowly can adjust how i experience and navigate through my life- effectively making me feel more and more at peace and happy; as if I can feel that zen feeling being put together piece by piece like a puzzle. 

Today my anxiety problem is virtually no more and I have achieved more than I had thought I was able to throughout these past years. However, there is still work to be done.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that psychedelics aren't an enlightenment in a pill answer. You will not get far with that mentality and in many cases, it can be detrimental. But psychedelics are an intense experience that if correctly perceived, felt and integrated into your life can enhance your every day perception to the point where you can easier overcome personal obstacles or fears and achieve personal goals in life. Bit by bit, you start to truly feel enlightened and at peace. Sure, sometimes you relapse and take a few steps back, but imo that's only natural :thumbup: But you see, that is the secret of psychedelics- they are not an answer and to perceive them as most do is to disrespect them and yourself as well. They can, however, if used with care and integration, enhance your person and aid you :thumbup:

So I think you need to rethink your relationship with pscyhedelics. Personally, I try to defuse every "AMG PSYCHEDELICS WILL MAKE ME ONE WITH THE UNIVERSE" situation I come across for the betterment of psychedelic culture as a whole and to spare the individual the harsh folly that is psychedelic enlightenment.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
    #19195520 - 11/27/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like you've done well and are one of the fortunate sons. :thumbup:  The rest of us continue to muddle along.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: backfire16]
    #19195695 - 11/27/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I guess what I'm trying to ask is: do you believe that a psychedelic experience can really change your world view, the way you think? Take someone who is suffers from anxiety and depression and in one sweep, turn it around?






Sometimes seeing things clearly actually can add pain and sadness.  I had some fine trips and some hellish bad trips when I was young and both together pretty much scared me straight for about ten years. Gave me alot of time to think things through and study live a healthy lifestyle (I went to a yoga college). I became normal (yogic normal) from Hollywood punk.

But I do believe it was Mahalakshmi's  doing.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: eve69]
    #19195765 - 11/27/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sometimes seeing things clearly actually can add pain and sadness.

It certainly has for me.  I'm weak you see.  I see how much suffering is going on in this reality and it breaks me.  I used to think that something would surely, and soon, fix that big mistake.  Now I believe strongly that this is very likely permanent for all of creation and likely eternal.  I'm grateful when some are happy even for a moment.  Even if I'm not the one.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? *DELETED* [Re: backfire16]
    #19195876 - 11/27/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #19195938 - 11/27/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've always been depressed and anxious, my parents made sure of that.  :haha:


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? *DELETED* [Re: fireworks_god]
    #19195940 - 11/27/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure why nearly all my post disappeared once I posted it, but thank god for the back button and the instant cache! :lol:

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backfire16 said:
I feel like all I've gained over my years of drug use have been a bit more empathy, become a little better at reading people's thoughts and emotions, but who's to say that's not something that just came with age? I can definitely say that I now suffer from depression and anxiety which was never a problem before using.




As a side note, the same question of it simply coming with age can apply as equally to suffering from depression and anxiety, as well.

I'll condense my viewpoint on the matter in the hope of brevity, but also of usefulness. :grin:

Psychedelics are potentiators of mental processes. Perceptual processes, emotional processes, thought processes... Psychedelics potentiate processes. :mushroom2:
Better yet: Psychedelics potentiate processes™. :smirk:

Potentiate is a hell of a verb whose definition carries with it a lot of cool words that really jive well with psychedelics: to cause to be more potent, powerful; to increase the effectiveness of, to intensify.
That's the psychedelic experience in a nutshell. :wink:

The degree to which a singular psychedelic experience can effectuate sweeping, transformational change within an individual is far too dependent on the specifics of their mental processes, how they've been playing themselves out over time, the set and setting of that moment and how that influences those processes, and, naturally, how those processes carry forth long after the psychedelic experience.

Yet, brevity is the order of the day, so let's refocus on you. I'll give you a simple answer to the titular question: Yes, you're probably missing something. :smile:

My impression is that you're lacking a quest.

Where's your quest, man? :strokebeard:

I have the impression based upon the ways in which you've expressed yourself in this thread that you don't need lectured on the conception that our mental processes are called processes because we are literally processing reality (not literally in the virtual sense, but in the actual sense), that change within ourselves lies dependent upon the way in which we do the hard work and heavy lifting of that processing, because it sounds like you're doing that work already, to the extent that you're stimulating that work with your intention.

What you need is a quest. Preferably an awesome one. :earth: :thumbup:


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? *DELETED* [Re: fireworks_god]
    #19196000 - 11/27/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My quest was always to find more psychedelics. :tongue2:


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
    #19196325 - 11/27/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wanna do some ibogaine
that's like the final frontier for me


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: deCypher]
    #19196481 - 11/27/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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OP, have you ever experienced Samadhi?




I can recall a few instances in which I've experienced something similar to this. All under the influences of drugs and all I believe to just be either a trick of the drug or literally a temporary drug induced psychosis.

The first time I experienced something like this was when I was 17. I had been doing speed based ecstacy pills and as is a common side effect I was extremely focused and more or less "in the zone". I was sitting around smoking marijuana at my buddy's house and what do you know he pulls out a bag of salvia. I had smoked salvia many times before but it had always been a terrible, awful, scary experience. As I normally would, young and dumb, I was ready to do anything.

I smoked the salvia and normally I would instantly get this awful sucking feeling and my whole visual field would be completley disturbed, eyes closed or open. This time I was sitting in a meditative like position while smoking it and just breathing in and out very focused. Instead of my vision being how it normally would be everything was black and as I became aware of this I heard a voice which I identified at the time as being "a higher part of myself" say "Reality is an illusion" and followed with saying "You can come here any time throyugh meditation". After coming back to baseline I experienced an amazing sense of calm and focus which seemed to last for a couple days.

My second experience was a trip gone wrong on mushrooms. After taking 5 grams of some EXTREMELY potent caps with a few friends all hell broke lose. I was living at my friends place at the time and he was selling a lot of drugs out of the house. This friend was tripping with me along with 2 others. My friend and 1 of the others decided it would be a good idea to take a speed based pill along with the mushrooms. I warned them that it would likely be a disaster. As the trip came on they both started to lose it. The friend I was living with became convinced that cops were trying to break the door down (there was nobody there) and he started to run around the house tossing shit everywhere, throwing clothes, furniture, trying to hide his stash. The other person who had taken the pills as well was rolling around on the couch basically incoherent, trying to form sentences but jumbled words were coming out. As you can imagine this was setting me off into a horrible trip of my own. I tried to get away from everything by leaving and going for a walk, when I went outside I stopped walking and felt as thought I was engulfed in a "light beam", I got this sense that everything was going to be alright and I felt at peace within this beam, I had a sense that I was always loved and always will be.

I just believe the above experience was a result of reading similar experiences on here maybe manifesting subconciously as a coping mechanism during the trip in which everything was going wrong. I didn't learn from it or have any feeling that stayed with me, in face later on in this trip I came to the belief that "god was everything" and if I was god then I could just kill myself and come back, zero consequenses.. thankfully I didn't. :facepalm3:

My third experience was a methampehtamine induced psychosis. I had been doing a large amount of speed based pills over the period of a few days (if you're wondering why all these experiences invlolve speed based pills: my friend who I was living with at the time was being fronted massive amounts of them and I was popping them like they were candy being young and dumb, not thinking about any consequences. I kind of just "snapped" at one point. It's very hard to explain it now but I believed that everyone was "one" like we were all the same person or same thing just being experienced seperatley if that makes sense? There was more to it but it's very difficult to remember and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. After doing some research months later I came to the conclusion that this was likely due to the mass amounts of dopamine fluctuating around in my brain.

Those were my three experiences, the last two were 100% drug induced and I had no lasting changes or insights from them. The first experience still makes me wonder to this day as it was just very strange and kind of coincides with buddhist beliefs.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? *DELETED* [Re: eve69]
    #19196489 - 11/27/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Here's a song for you OP:cool:



I can definitely relate to what you've said. Maybe just try to go into psychedelic trips without any expectations, seems to help me. I remember how bummed out I felt when I realized that maybe psychedelics were not the "be all end all" after all.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: backfire16]
    #19196528 - 11/27/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Which just goes to show you imo that these states quite possibly  have little cosmic/spiritual meaning. Maybe in the same way that if you go into shock you might feel pain free and released from your normal feelings of anxiety.  Anyway it's fun when they happen and I wish they happened more. :satansmoking:


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? *DELETED* [Re: fireworks_god]
    #19196530 - 11/27/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What you need is a quest. Preferably an awesome one. :earth: :thumbup:




My quest at the moment is graduating from college, getting a full-time job and moving back out on my own. The plan is to eventually get a Candian Pardon that would essentially wipe my criminal record clean so I can get into the field of work that I've always had a passion for and genuinely been interested in studying.

I think the problem is my lack of motivation/apathy which has always been a problem since as far back as 12 years old. I think the depression is most likely tied into this but may also be an accumulation of other factors.

My anxiety is more or less social anxiety. I believe it's partially caused by my wanting to impress others or fit in or be viewed in a certain way. It may also be tied in to my low sense of self-worth and seeing others as better than me (I don't intentionally follow that belief and try to correct it when I notice it). I'm very attentitve to when I'm experiencing anxiety and pay attention to the thought process and where they're taking and attempt to correct them.

It's just weird because growing up I was always the super social kid, leader of the group, funny, confident. Coming out of drug addiction and into recovery I struggled to even converse with people and avoided almost all social situations. I have made quite a bit of progess since then but still suffer from it.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? *DELETED* [Re: backfire16]
    #19196997 - 11/27/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

At least you have a plan, that's something. The ship that sails with no destination in mind never reaches its erm.. destination! Or something like that.

I think you only get out what you put in, and I see that you have gotten something from it, which is more than can be said for most who use/abuse these substances.

I trip infrequently but when I do, I get powerful realisations about what my priorities in life should be. The experience tells me what I need to do in order to sort my life out. These realisations are sometimes painfully lucid, so bitter sweet, but I know they're true. I may feel guilt for not being motivated enough, or for not treating others with the respect they deserve - BUT in the psychedelic state I view myself with compassion and empathy, I can forgive myself, knowing that I'm deeply committed to improving. The lesson has been administered and I reflect on it, daily I think about it; since my last lesson what have I done to strive toward my goals? If the answer to that question is 'nothing', then I'm not ready to trip again, for it would be worthless, empty and indulgent.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: backfire16]
    #19197044 - 11/27/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think you were able to see past the BS that psychedelic users have tried to sell you. I'm not saying these drugs are inherently bad, but people who promote psychedelics tend to promote that they do nothing but good. They also tend to carry this promise that there's something "mystical" to it and that it contains the secrets to something. Most of these people have also broken out of the reality that society has imposed on them, which can be good at times, but at the same time, they turn around and imprison themselves in this other delusive reality around psychedelics. I know so many psychedelic users who surround themselves with other psychedelic users, and they just reinforce each others' worldview that they've built around these psychedelic insights. They say, "We're all one, love everyone." And then turn around and talk about how much they hate others who don't understand "the psychedelic mindset." Doesn't seem like much change to me. :shrug: Still the same ol' human game.

At the end of the day, they're just drugs. Some people like them, and some don't. They don't give anyone any insights to the nature of the universe anymore than someone sitting on a couch bored on a Saturday night. The insights came from the individual, and maybe these drugs were catalysts to allow one to see and confront something in them. All psychedelics show is the effects of these drugs on a human brain. But if you enjoy the effect, then hey, more power to ya.


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Re: Have I just been brainwashed or am I missing something? [Re: r72rock]
    #19197082 - 11/27/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In a way psychedelics are a way of throwing the bashful person in the river. Learn to swim, or sink. Either experience can be 'enlightening'.

Swim = balance BTW. Drugs are optional and carry their own potential complications. Steady as she goes.


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