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incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan.
    #1919400 - 09/15/03 09:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

cheddar cheese is very high in tryptophan.
http://www.drugs.1emallway.com/mind-works/food-serotonin.htm

how could one spike one's spawning substrate with cheddar cheese to achieve a cheap psilocin boost?

i can imagine that autoclaving it would give you a sticky mess.
any thoughts?


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: doktor_alternate]
    #1919462 - 09/15/03 09:51 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I would get pure tryptophan in capsules.


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a [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1920256 - 09/16/03 02:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: enacid]
    #1921644 - 09/16/03 03:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

there has been SOOO much discussion about this in the past, for years even. yet everyone talks about it and noone tests the theory. of course its not easy to extract and accurately weigh pure psilocin, and theres really no evidence or feasable hypothesis that the mycellium would actually care about the triptophan or use it in any way, look at its boilogiacl structure.

but soured milk contains triptophans you could try that as well.


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: BeppoMarx]
    #1921819 - 09/16/03 04:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

High tryptamine content grasses as mixed a substrate possibly.


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: SJR]
    #1923252 - 09/16/03 11:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hey BeppoMarx- check this out- Scroll down to the article by Gartz.

<http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7953>

This seems to show much greater psilocin content. Seems like trying tryptophan is worthwhile. Actually testing it? Well, testing with tryptamine has been done (in a non-illict lab, too). What about tryptophan?

Try this one:

<http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/abstracts/L4.cgi?mode=new&simple=boolean&kwand=AGURELL+S%3B+NILSSON+LG%0D%0A&kwor=&kwnot=&max=150>

Tryptophan -> trypamine! Maybe Anno would be interested in trying this after those substrate tests.

I'm thinking about trying out a little dried milk (cause it's cheap and available) in my next batch of brown rice and see if I notice any difference.

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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: justsmurfy]
    #1923577 - 09/17/03 12:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Again (Ithink this is the 16th time I've said it) tryptophan downregulates its decarboxylation so it wouldn't be a really effective precursor. You want a tryptamine or something that's broken down into tryptamine.

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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: doktor_alternate]
    #1923681 - 09/17/03 01:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: Autonomous]
    #1925126 - 09/17/03 02:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I will try once I get some pure trip.


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: screaminsemen]
    #1925834 - 09/17/03 06:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Just use pure trypamine. Very cheap also...


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1925954 - 09/17/03 06:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Where would one find pure tryptamine? Is this a watched chemical?


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: Autonomous]
    #1926025 - 09/17/03 07:16 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I am probably not supposed to do this.. But here *slap on wrist* :

http://www.jmarchemical.com/tryptamine.html


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1932705 - 09/19/03 03:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I hereby announce my willingness to purchase (X) grams of that chemical, under the conditions that Anno be the recipient, that he grows on the most potent substrate, and that he adds this to the substrate, and can then get it qualitatively analyzed.


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: lysergic]
    #1932735 - 09/19/03 04:02 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/intel/02052/02052.html


Just a little intersting tidbit from the fuckwits at the DEA.


Many traffickers believe that by manufacturing and/or distributing non-controlled substances, they are exempt from drug and chemical control laws. Consequently, in the future, more of these substances may appear among club drug users throughout the country. However, the DEA has determined that individuals and organizations currently trafficking these substances with the intent of human consumption can still be prosecuted under the existing federal drug-analog statute.


*Shrug* I'm not sure if ordering this chemical is watched or not, I wouldn't be surprised if it was, since it's a precursor to al of the trptamines.


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Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.


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Re: incrasing psilocin by spiking substrate with tryptophan. [Re: lysergic]
    #1938166 - 09/21/03 05:01 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

pure tryptamine goes for 39 bucks a gram, cheaper if you buy in bulk, say in 10 gram increments.
you guys got me curious now also, and i would watch out if ordering, i woundn't be surprised if this chemical is being monitored also.
if anyone does try this, and i hope you use pure tryptamine - i don't think cheese-milk-turkey will work effectively, you gotta let us know.
i have been mulling it over for some time now.
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