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Re: Big Government Is To The People As Drugs Are To An Addict... [Re: Insidious]
    #19201349 - 11/28/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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In your opinion what qualifies something as an essential service like firefighting and policing which the Government should provide and what disqualifies it?




I would rather see just about everything that government does, privatized. That includes building roads and fighting fires. There is no incentive for a government to be careful with your money.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Big Government Is To The People As Drugs Are To An Addict... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19201474 - 11/28/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You're right about one thing. I don't give a fuck about people going bankrupt. If you do then give your money, and whoever elses you can get to chip in, to donate to them.

And your last comment was the dumbest of all:
1. Believing the feds shouldn't do something doesn't mean I'm heartless, just that I realize what a clusterfuck the feds make of big programs.
2. I put my money where my mouth is and I donate mid 5 figures to charities every year. How much do you give?
3. When I see a semi-local story about people losing everything when their house/apt burns down, I drop a large check into the funds set up to help them. Do you?

It would take a complete idiot to equate not wanting the feds to do something with not doing something myself. Frankly... I hope you're not that stupid.




If this is true then at least you practise what you preach and that's commendable.. I agree with a lot of what you say in theory, but in reality I think the free market is too apt to be greedy and exploitive and Government waste becomes the lesser of two evils...


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Re: Big Government Is To The People As Drugs Are To An Addict... [Re: Insidious]
    #19201517 - 11/28/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I agree with a lot of what you say in theory, but in reality I think the free market is too apt to be greedy and exploitive and Government waste becomes the lesser of two evils...





I agree with a lot of what you say in theory, but in reality I think the GOVERNMENT is too apt to be greedy and exploitive and FREE MARKET CREATION OF JOBS AND WEALTH becomes the lesser of two evils...

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.  :smirk:


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Re: Big Government Is To The People As Drugs Are To An Addict... [Re: Insidious]
    #19201520 - 11/28/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If I preach it, I practice it. It's how I was raised. I believe very strongly in doing the right thing.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Big Government Is To The People As Drugs Are To An Addict... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19201870 - 11/28/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've given 2% for the past 20 years and now sponsor a child overseas.

This country is too large and there are far too many people in need not to have government help. The charity of individuals is not enough.


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Re: Big Government Is To The People As Drugs Are To An Addict... [Re: sweeper54]
    #19201890 - 11/28/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've given 2% for the past 20 years and now sponsor a child overseas.

This country is too large and there are far too many people in need not to have government help. The charity of individuals is not enough.



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I've given 2% for the past 20 years and now sponsor a child overseas.

This country is too large and there are far too many people in need not to have government help. The charity of individuals is not enough.





I almost agree with you but...here is what bothers me.  Why can I get a tax break for giving to strangers i.e. the United Negro College Fund but if I give for college to my own children i don't get a tax break?

Perhaps family values should be revisited in the US where family helps out family, like in the old day, and neighbor helps neighbor--not the government takes it and helps who THEY want?


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Re: Big Government Is To The People As Drugs Are To An Addict... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19201989 - 11/28/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The old days are gone. It didn't take as much to give a person or family a helping hand up.

If you could write off your family donations then the rich won't have to "HIRE" their brats to funnel money to them.


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