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bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes)
    #19192801 - 11/26/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hello got a question

does anyone know anything about adding beneficial microbes to my bulk substrate as im adding my spawn. i know the reason i pasteurize rather than sterillized my sub is to keep these alive so they can combat pathogens. but what about adding them at spawning?

any experience appreciated


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Re: bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes) [Re: oxana]
    #19193228 - 11/26/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I brought up a question similar to this once except I suggested mixing in firefang grain spawn. Firefang is what we try not to kill when we pasteurize so theoretically it could protect against contams if the substrate gets colonized by the firefang. I can link the thread if you want, but it came to the conclusion that it would just be a waste of time. I would love to see the results of something like this so if you wanted to experiment with it I think that would be great!


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Re: bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes) [Re: oxana]
    #19193533 - 11/26/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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oxana said:
hello got a question

does anyone know anything about adding beneficial microbes to my bulk substrate as im adding my spawn. i know the reason i pasteurize rather than sterillized my sub is to keep these alive so they can combat pathogens. but what about adding them at spawning?

any experience appreciated



the microbes you want are in your bulk sub, properly pasturize your substrate and use clean spawn. how would you go about adding them anyway?


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Re: bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes) [Re: cronicr]
    #19193610 - 11/26/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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oxana said:
hello got a question

does anyone know anything about adding beneficial microbes to my bulk substrate as im adding my spawn. i know the reason i pasteurize rather than sterillized my sub is to keep these alive so they can combat pathogens. but what about adding them at spawning?

any experience appreciated



the microbes you want are in your bulk sub, properly pasturize your substrate and use clean spawn. how would you go about adding them anyway?




It might be possible to isolate them on agar and grow them out on grain. Then when you spawn you would just add the microbe grain with the cubensis grain jars. It would probably be completely useless, harmful, or not worth the time, but who knows, what would our hobby be without experimentation?


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Re: bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19193622 - 11/26/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just curiuos because i know there are online companys that sell mycorrhizzae in a bottle lol, pay like 20 bux for a pill bottle of dirt lol


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Re: bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes) [Re: cronicr]
    #19193655 - 11/26/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've read that that stuff is useless. Even if it did have good microbes in it, they would have died by the time they got to your door. That's what I've read about the fish tank microbe bottles anyways.


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Re: bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes) [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19193698 - 11/26/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've read that that stuff is useless. Even if it did have good microbes in it, they would have died by the time they got to your door. That's what I've read about the fish tank microbe bottles anyways.



yeah some pretty dumb shit IMO, maybe try it for some indoor azures lol


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Re: bulk substrate co-innoculants? ( beneficicial mycrobes) [Re: cronicr]
    #19194036 - 11/26/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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oxana said:
hello got a question

does anyone know anything about adding beneficial microbes to my bulk substrate as im adding my spawn. i know the reason i pasteurize rather than sterillized my sub is to keep these alive so they can combat pathogens. but what about adding them at spawning?

any experience appreciated



the microbes you want are in your bulk sub, properly pasturize your substrate and use clean spawn. how would you go about adding them anyway?




do you think they are in coco coir. i have a feeling coco is pretty devoid of life due to the high salt content.


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