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Re: Doctors here have failed me.... [Re: Dr.Dankhead]
#20559184 - 09/12/14 06:01 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Doctors here have failed me.... [Re: Dr.Dankhead]
#20560135 - 09/12/14 10:13 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I was going to give you some advice about lyme disease and similar illnesses but I'll sum it down to this: Lyme can cause damage to several parts of your body including brain and other organs which can have long term effects. That doesn't mean your body didn't develop antibodies to Lyme. That doesn't mean you are still suffering from an acute case. If your doctor discourages you from extended antibiotics or other treatments you request he may have good reason. Those treatments can do harm themselves.
You sound paraniod to me. Lyme and pinworms are very different. I have had both.
I mean I can see how doctors look at you like you're crazy if you say stuff like this:
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I know I have parasites though because I've seen fluke parasites come out in the toilet when I took anti parasite herbs but after a while the herbs just seemed to irritate them and it gave me feelings of biting in my liver and galbladder.
You have to realize that their education is based on science and you are pulling shit out of your ass. Are doctors perfect, surely not, but a step up from herbs.
I'm curious, what did your parasites look like?nvm you did... Also do you take any stimulants or been diagnosed with anything that might cause delusions?
I really don't mean to offend, but I've seen this all before. You very well could be right but I just want to give some other options as to whats happening here.
I believe 100 that you are likely right.
O.P, You may just have i.b,s or some abdominal issue. Have you had your gallbladder removed?
What are your symptoms again?
I understand where you come from going to 'mental issues' or ibs but I don't think it's that.
I don't think it's a coincidence that I tested positive for amoeba and protozoa on two seperate tests that I took - one a parasite lab and another with a blood test. Co-infections are common with parasites - can Google it - parasite co infections.
Also right now some lyme doctors consider parasites to be one of the biggest co infections in lyme disease. If you know about lyme you may know how much controversy there is around it. It is a lot to go in to but can easily be searched online as well.
There are a lot of websites that talk about how bad parasite testing is in the U.S. Also btw I'm working with a lyme doctor on trying some treatments that can cover a wide range of infections, but she even told me a while ago that testing is not easy for them. Her husband had parasites and got a lot out with medicine - she said he met with parisitologists in Mexico (may have been a doctor or researcher)
Also Hulda Clark is the doctor who did research on the herbs that kill parasites - Some of her work is out there but I think she is on point about parasites being an overlooked cause of health issues in U.S.
This is one of the best resources I have seen online that someone put together about testing for parasites - http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html
Never had galbladder removed nor any family history relating to galbladder or liver issues. Symptoms are fatigue, headaches that cover the right side of my head sometimes, itching in neck, scratches sometimes show up in my back and upper shoulders, stay about 140 lbs and 6 ft tall - some have commented that I look skinny - yet I eat plenty of calories but it doesn't add up, gastro issues always - don't digest properly. I used to be able to eat hershey bars all day with no problem.
And again a post by someone who knows a lot on the subject about testing for them - http://curezone.info/forums/fm.asp?i=2179046
Also I realize this thread title might sound a little dramatic but I'm still hopeful and working to get better.
Edited by Anonymous (09/12/14 10:51 PM)
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Re: Doctors here have failed me.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#20560281 - 09/12/14 11:00 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can we uh...can we get close up shots of these black dots and strings? Just spoiler it so no ones subjected to something they dont wanna see.
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Re: Doctors here have failed me.... [Re: Anonymous #4]
#20560358 - 09/12/14 11:21 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Black dots haven't shown up since I took those herbs a year ago but other stuff persists. I can try to get a pic of bathroom stuff next time, it could be nasty but can show that it is not normal looking.
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Doctors here have failed me.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#20560797 - 09/13/14 02:32 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I do know a little about the theories of parasites and different strains of Lyme. It just seems to be one of those diseases that people latch onto and run with. When people start talking about things crawling out of their skin and anus I can't help but be reminded of stimulant psycosis.
I will say that when I had pinworms when I was a kid I could see the little worms wriggling in my poo, it freaked me the fuck out at the time. I actually tested negative for parasites even when I gave a stool sample. They treated me anyway because I had the symptoms and a cousin who had recently had pinworms. The treatment worked, as it does in most cases.
The same thing with Lyme. I tested negative but the tests are notoriously unreliable. A/b treatment killed the major symptoms. I have a bit of arthritis and also weird anxiety and appetite problems, but I'm not sure what to attribute that to.
The treatment for pinworms and Lyme are both known to be effective in most cases. If you're extremely sick to the point where you need to get hospitalized you can get more intensive treatments like I/V antibiotics, but usually doctors won't provide prolonged a/b treatment just on the word of a patient. They're not failing you they are looking out for your best interests because antibiotics and antiparasitic drugs can both have serious side effects. The risk can outweigh the potential benefits.
Good luck figuring this all out, but at some point you've got to just stop worrying and enjoy life.
O and I am curios to see your fecal dwellers if you could come up with a clear picture somehow. There are natural explanations for why certain herbal treatments could produce irregular stool. Unless you see something wriggling around and can have a third party verify that I would be very careful about jumping to conclusions.
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The thing is I haven't passed any obvious parasites since two summers ago when I was taking the anti parasite herbs. Now I rotate some meds but they don't seem to kill the stuff so much.
The messed up thing is I've got tests that hint at them but the typical doctors are too ignorant to help with themy. Thyroid neck scan showshowed small nodules (where I have a lot of symptoms-tightness, tickling sensations, rashes) and a liver CT scan showed a riedels lobe - coincidence what I passed looked lIke 'liver flukes' how absurd.
I'm not the only one dealing with this either. The mainstream in US for whatever reason knows little about this stuff. My Lyme doctor also thinks this is my biggest issue but she can't do much more than me and others dealing with this can- try meds and protocols, etc.
If it didn't physically effect me like it does I could care less. At this point if I have money for it sometime soon I'd consider going overseas where they know how to treat this stuff and try to get surgery or something.
Edited by Anonymous (01/01/15 01:45 AM)
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Re: Doctors here have failed me.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#21051056 - 01/01/15 01:51 AM (9 years, 30 days ago) |
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What the heck?? You are liable to take a bunch of xanax, or tylenol???@op
I dont.get it.
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charles manson said: What the heck?? You are liable to take a bunch of xanax, or tylenol???@op
I dont.get it.
Parasite meds to keep them down. I don't take tylenol or xanax.
Edited by Anonymous (01/01/15 02:09 AM)
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Doctors here have failed me.... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#21052956 - 01/01/15 04:12 PM (9 years, 29 days ago) |
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Who told you that Reidel's Lobe is a sign of liver flukes or other illness? From what I can find it seems to be a normal variant in human anatomy.
Lots of people have thyroid problems, I have been diagnosed with that myself as well. That doesn't necessarily indicate serious parasites, I think there are much more likely, such as stress from an anxiety disorder related to stimulant abuse.
I just want to make sure you are not fooling yourself and wasting your resources and potentially your well-being pursuing the wrong course of treatment.
I probably have said this already but except in cases with improper treatment or comprimised immune system Lyme is treatable. That doesn't mean it won't cause auto-immune type disorders or long-term chronic problems, but there is good evidence that aggressively treating the perceived source of these issues (Lyme pathogens) based on the desire of a patient isn't going to be the right thing for a doctor to do in many cases.
Doctors cannot solve all of our issues, that is for sure. Think of Andy Kaufman's story at the end of his life when he was convinced that western doctors had failed him in his cancer treatment, so he went to some foreign country to receive "traditional" medicine which turned out to be even more quackish.
Just remember not to be close-minded in either way. If you refuse to even consider their advice and be realistic then the doctors are not failing you, you are failing yourself.
Be well friend!
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Anonymous #1
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Thanks moonrock. I will say I explore both sides - alternative and regular medicine and will keep an open mind to both sides - whoever offers legit answers.
Regards
Edited by Anonymous (01/02/15 02:51 AM)
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