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Piecefillpath247
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Have you experienced oneness?
#19192388 - 11/26/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or any other name if might go by.
How did you achieve this state, or was it spontaneous?
Do you draw any parallels in media to your experience, i.e. religions, stories etc?
How would you describe it, if it indeed may be described.
How has this event effected your life, or has it had an effect on your life?
Any other questions i'm not asking the right way?
My experiences have always been under the influence of psycadelics (read entheogens) and always involved marijuana strange enough as i don't really care for the herb.
After these experiences i've adopted the point of view that it is indeed possible to become enlightened, whatever that means. However i do not believe drugs to be the best approach to it, even though this is the only way i've ever experienced it. Seems to me meditation/concentration might be the best avenue for this endeavour.
The best media i've come across that has similar features as the experiences i've had has been Zen Buddhism and Advaita. However i can't help but notices features and effects (etc) in a lot of other media as well, even in day to day life i catch indirect glimpses of it, hard to explain but something akin to de ja vu, i've been here / done this before sensation / a spontaneous gnosis, but nothing ever as consuming as the experience brought by psycs.
the path there isn't always the same, nor is the experience the same, but at the same time it is. Typically it begins with compounding coincidence (read synchronicities) to, what i call, the event horizon. the point of no return. at this point i am able to choose if i want to cross the event horizon or break away from the series of choices which lead furthur down the spiral. It's not always up to me choice however, sometimes you walk through the event horizon and don't realize this until its past time to change course. What follows varies. depersonalization, depending on how much a struggle a sense of calm or of tension. dissolution. death. awareness. and sometime betwixt eternities return. usually feeling like how i'd imagine the characters felt in the terminator movies coming out of their time bubble things.
These events have changed the way i look at everything, have changed how i make my choices, etc etc. There isn't a day that goes by that i don't consider it. i believe its the change in context that has been so impactful. before i didn't have the context of this part of the story. i.e. we are all the same awareness looking through different windows, boxes, meat sacks, experiences, limits, etc etc. makes you reconsider what it means to be kind to others. to make responsible choices (to the best of my ability.)
its a beautiful and complex thing i'll never understand. or maybe it's just latent psycosis. or maybe it's something i'll never understand.
-------------------- "The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance" -Alan Watts
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I experience it on drugs almost always and, occasionally, without drugs.
It's the classic "ineffable" mystical experience, so it's no use trying to describe it. Though the mystic authors go through thousands and thousands of words trying to describe it. So go figure.
If someone has experienced it, they immediately know what you're pointing to.
If someone hasn't experienced it, they won't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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it was such a good subject but i was the third poster so i wasn't the first, i fucked up so bad, i lost oneness forever
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: eve69]
#19192831 - 11/26/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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but seriously oneness a few times, always great experience, best with a sexual partner how it affected my life? i learned to listen to the other
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: eve69]
#19193155 - 11/26/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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We are all experiencing oneness all the time. The question is do we recognize it ? There are different degrees of this recognition - it is not a binary switch. Humans operate on something closer to fuzzy logic. How ? I've been on a quest without a name. Discovery never ends. 'I' only pop out of the state in sleep now (though some times I remember in dreams). Got there via 'sober' practice/techniques, various plants and the combination of practices with plants.
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lessismore
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once on top of a small grass mountain in the winter, it became summer in my mind and time ceased, I ceased
sometimes in nature, sometimes trance gets me there
else LSD/Mushrooms
yes changed everything .. :-) no fear of death any longer, new view on everything
or maybe it was the NDEs
oneness is just unconscious for me, it is what happens afterwards that is interesting new world like first day I saw the world
no thoughts, no problems
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: Deckard_Cain]
#19193208 - 11/26/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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true
notice yourself in everybody :-)
peace
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: lessismore]
#19193540 - 11/26/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some of my most thrilling moments in life were experiencing oneness at a local hemp festival while under the influence of LSD. I believe it to be a direct result of ego death and a heightened ability to sense ego death in everyone around you. When everyones ego dies you are suddenly on the same level or feel as such hence feeling interconnectedness or oneness. It's true that its a 24/7 phenomenon but psychedelics definitely help with recognition
-------------------- suddenly a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this. Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping...Holy fucking shit!
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: My Third Eye]
#19193637 - 11/26/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How did you achieve this state, or was it spontaneous? - Psychedelics
Do you draw any parallels in media to your experience, i.e. religions, stories etc? - Buddhism is pretty accurate to what I experienced in some of my psychedelic states. I was not familiar with buddhists philosophies but many of the ideas of buddhism are synonymous with psychedelic experiences imo
How would you describe it, if it indeed may be described. - A profound and undeniable sense that you are connected to all living things. That everything is simply an expression, a manifestation of the one thing. That on some more fundamental level there is unity.
-------------------- “Everybody is fundamentally, the ultimate reality. Not god in the political kingly sense, but god in the sense of being the self – the deep down basic whatever there is. And you’re all that… only you’re pretending you’re not.” -Alan Watts I think that in human evolution it has never been as necessary to have this substance LSD. It is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be.” ― Albert Hofmann
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: LysergicX7]
#19197250 - 11/27/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nearly all the time. I did undertake a number of years of sadhana of various kinds, but that effort was most helpful, ultimately, in an indirect way, exhausting all of the ego games I needed to play so that I could finally see what had been, in effect, staring me in the face all along.
-------------------- Come, come, whoever you are. Wanderer, worshiper, lover of living, it doesn't matter Ours is not a caravan of despair. Come even if you have broken your vow a thousand times, Come, yet again, come, come
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: Mahananda]
#19197271 - 11/27/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just thinking about the feeling would feed you the result. Though this friend of mine is burning a nice mix of herbs in my incencer... calea... motherwort.. wild lettuce.. mexican tarragon.. CalliPoppy and fresh chilly...
-------------------- And thus begins the reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: Mahananda]
#19197313 - 11/27/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mahananda said: Nearly all the time. I did undertake a number of years of sadhana of various kinds, but that effort was most helpful, ultimately, in an indirect way, exhausting all of the ego games I needed to play so that I could finally see what had been, in effect, staring me in the face all along.
was something staring you in the face? i mean i hear that saying but i have a parrot and she literally stares right in your face like she's dope in love with you...was it like that?
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: eve69]
#19197325 - 11/27/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If I am not all wrong.. I think he means that he finally ended the chase and the search and the games and the acts and the "rules to follow" of which keep one from the enloghtenment and peace everyone already posess...
-------------------- And thus begins the reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.
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Piecefillpath247
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: Mahananda]
#19198703 - 11/27/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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But the games are enjoyable 
Passing time on an infinite shot clock we've got to add a limit in order for it to be fun, there has to be risk, tension, a way out.
Suffering is enjoyable
existence is our prison, our canvas, no right or wrong just is.
being awake, being extinguished, being asleep, all are valid in my book.
"what better place than here, what better time than now?"
-------------------- "The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance" -Alan Watts
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Being asleep is valid until you get sick of suffering. As long as you don't mind pain, fear, loss, confusion, sickness and death it is valid to be asleep.
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: My Third Eye]
#19199167 - 11/28/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My Third Eye said: Some of my most thrilling moments in life were experiencing oneness at a local hemp festival while under the influence of LSD. I believe it to be a direct result of ego death and a heightened ability to sense ego death in everyone around you. When everyones ego dies you are suddenly on the same level or feel as such hence feeling interconnectedness or oneness. It's true that its a 24/7 phenomenon but psychedelics definitely help with recognition
Psychedelics mainly lsd got me there briefly a few times One time for over a year , still feel it
Connected to everybody I see sometimes, because I realize they are me and because I love myself so I must love them as myself Also notice the good in people Everybody is love, love connects everybody Sometimes it fails, but only if I dont love myself
Soul in a body is my natural state, no uniqueness, seeing myself in everybody Love is soul
Dunno if that makes sense...love is oneness
And love can be grown, houseplants, pets, nature helps
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Piecefillpath247 said: Or any other name if might go by.
How did you achieve this state, or was it spontaneous?
WIth marijuana and meditation.
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Do you draw any parallels in media to your experience, i.e. religions, stories etc?
I went from an atheist to someone with great interest and enthusiasm for religion, especially Christianity.
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How would you describe it, if it indeed may be described.
Going back to how things were before I started imposing my ideas on them.
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How has this event effected your life, or has it had an effect on your life?
It completely destroyed my life and nearly killed me as I experienced a great fall into a lower state of consciousness after flying very high and this was unbearable. It took an entire decade for me to recover and resume the process of awakening but it was all worth it.
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: lessismore]
#19199327 - 11/28/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Connected to everybody I see sometimes, because I realize they are me and because I love myself so I must love them as myself
My first true love in college (I was 17 - and I went to M____ Yoga U) taught me that I was projecting my feelings and thoughts on her. That I did all the talking. I never listened. I wasn't her and she wasn't me. It was a very important lesson which has been a major tool for me in my marriage. But what I started out to say was, I made this assumption of oneness, and it made me sort of stupid, in spite of the fact of my hours of meditation every day and intense kundalini stuff at that time.
I didn't say this very well - in spite of searching out oneness and spending many many hours in the sensation the person closest to me taught me to not rely upon that at all.
That girl broke my fucking heart like bad. Being in yoga camp heightens emotions. (Let's not talk about sex where everyone sits in meditation for hours a day. Making love your past lives flashed - your fingers walk her skin and its color is the exotic surface of a soft planet
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: eve69]
#19199360 - 11/28/13 04:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Suffering... well... it is enjoyable in its own way... especially torture and physical pain... sorrow however I am more or less indifferent to.. it is of a purpose and enjoyable in its own way, but it bringsalot of emotional pain.. meaning it is overall not a negative but not positive either and expereance...
to live in a constant bliss one must maybe find joy in pain too.. atleast in my expereance.. I have learned this to be the definition of madness, though in my country we have a saying; "de gærne har det godt", the mad ones live good/peacefully... Praise the Madgod I say!
-------------------- And thus begins the reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.
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Re: Have you experienced oneness? [Re: Icyus]
#19199809 - 11/28/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icyus said: Suffering... well... it is enjoyable in its own way... especially torture and physical pain... sorrow however I am more or less indifferent to.. it is of a purpose and enjoyable in its own way, but it brings alot of emotional pain.. meaning it is overall not a negative but not positive either and expereance...
to live in a constant bliss one must maybe find joy in pain too.. at least in my expereance..
Well, if you were living in 17th Century America and you voiced such a thing, you would have been burned at the stake for being a witch.
I personally am not into the S&M scene, but I understand that the brain does release all manner of pleasurable and soothing stuff when the body is being "abused." Sort of nature's way of turning a bad situation into something (somewhat) good.
I don't see how psychological or emotional suffering can in any way (other than in a mystical context) be "good," though.
It's so "bad," in fact, that major movements like Buddhism came along to address the situation.
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